On Sun, 15 May 2016 09:39:29 +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> I agree, and I think JWM in out of date, as the version of the source from
> the developer's site is much later.
The version of JWM in Debian Sid (and thus in Devuan
Ceres) is 2.3.5, which is the current release.
Cf. http://joewing.net/p
Le 19/05/2016 02:13, Joel Roth a écrit :
2) Terminate X via Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
Seems like an easy, useful, historic way to kill a malfunctioning X.
I use to configure DEs so that this key terminates the session.
Dunno if this is compatible with what you propose.
I use terminals
On 05/18/2016 08:32 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 05:04:53PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 09:52:57AM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
>>> I think it's also removed in the boot menu of my unofficial live beta, but
>>> it's still there in refractasnapshot. No plans to
> On Wed, 5/18/16, Joel Roth wrote:
>>
>> 2) Terminate X via Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
>>
>> Seems like an easy, useful, historic way to kill a malfunctioning X.
>>
I haven't been able to get that to work since wheezy was new. What does
work is Ctrl-Alt-PrtScn-k
On 05/18/2016 09:22 PM, Go Linux
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 02:13:31PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Having handled many of the issues relating to init system
> to the point of being able to release Devuan jessie beta,
> I wonder if Devuan community is ready to support action on
> other scourges of the linux on personal computer ecosyste
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 02:13:31PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having handled many of the issues relating to init system
> to the point of being able to release Devuan jessie beta,
> I wonder if Devuan community is ready to support action on
> other scourges of the linux on personal computer
Am Thu, 19 May 2016 10:41:02 +
schrieb Irrwahn :
> On Sun, 15 May 2016 09:39:29 +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> > I agree, and I think JWM in out of date, as the version of the
> > source from the developer's site is much later.
>
> The version of JWM in Debian Sid (and thus in Devuan
> Cere
Hi! To make a long story short: Because of lots of overheating problems
with an amd64 based Samsung notebook, which made any reliable woking
impossible, i decided to downgrade to jessie (from ascii) with a fresh
install.
So far that worked fine. I chose as desktop lxde (and unticked Devuan
default
Is there somewhere a desktop independent tool, to logout from an
xsession (and even better: with a suspend and reboot command too :) )?
I tried with lxde-logout in a jwm desktop, but apparently that
does not work.
I also tried a script (found in arch), called oblogout (which
originally came from
Dear Devuaners,
I am keeping stripping down our favourite system, both in terms of
space (both i386 and amd64 might fit in less than 250 MB, with the
same packages) and of memory (the development version fr i386 already
requires 67 MB, and I am confident we can fit it into less than 64). I
have al
Am Thu, 19 May 2016 10:41:02 +
schrieb Irrwahn :
[ . . . ]
> > 2) Terminate X via Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
> >
> >Seems like an easy, useful, historic way to kill a
> > malfunctioning X.
>
> That would coincide with my preferences, but I dare not
> speculate about the usefulness for said
On Thu, 19 May 2016 14:19:50 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> [ . . . ]
>
>>> 2) Terminate X via Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
> For me that's useful, especially since often the logout tools do not
> work like expected (in my limited experience).
>
> I notice, that key combination does not work by default in
On Thu, 19 May 2016 13:46:02 +0200
wrote:
> When i boot the (slim) login window come up (with F1 i am able to see
> the 3 available xsessions (lxde, openbox, jwm; the latter added after
> the installation). But none of this options starts. username +
> password make disappear the login window, bu
On Thu, 19 May 2016 13:51:11 +0200
wrote:
> Is there somewhere a desktop independent tool, to logout from an
> xsession (and even better: with a suspend and reboot command too :)
> )?
>
> I tried with lxde-logout in a jwm desktop, but apparently that
> does not work.
>
> I also tried a script
On Thu, 19 May 2016 15:29:40 +0200
Florian Zieboll wrote:
> Here a quick "universal logout" hack for slim:
>
> ### file: /etc/slim.conf
> (...)
> login_cmd export slim_session=%session && exec /root/lwrap.sh
> (...)
Correction for consistency:
login_cmd export slim_session=%session
On Thu, 19 May 2016 15:29:40 +0200
Florian Zieboll wrote:
> Here a quick "universal logout" hack for slim:
That was still a bit too quick, two mistakes (path and name of variable)
need to be corrected. Also, the scripts don't need bash...
## file: /etc/slim.conf
(...)
login_cmd export sl
On Thu, 19 May 2016 10:01:27 +0200
Irrwahn wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2016 09:39:29 +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> > I agree, and I think JWM in out of date, as the version of the
> > source from the developer's site is much later.
>
> The version of JWM in Debian Sid (and thus in Devuan
> Ceres)
Thanks
W dniu 19.05.2016 o 02:36, Gregory Nowak pisze:
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 09:43:37PM +0200, Paweł Cholewiński wrote:
>> How to check integrity of this SHA256SUMS file and how to ensure the
>> data is the same as it was when it was originally created - how to
>> verify digital signature of t
On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:55:28 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> together with a
> *minimal* WM (which might well be DWM or JWM)
In the preceding choice (DWM vs JWM), I recommend JWM. Dwm is a tiled
window manager, and a lot of people go to pieces when confronted with a
tiled window manager.
Either way, I
On Thu, 19 May 2016 11:32:47 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016 10:01:27 +0200
> Irrwahn wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 09:39:29 +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote:
>>> I agree, and I think JWM in out of date, as the version of the
>>> source from the developer's site is much later.
>>
>>
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 02:13:31PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having handled many of the issues relating to init system
> to the point of being able to release Devuan jessie beta,
> I wonder if Devuan community is ready to support action on
> other scourges of the linux on personal computer
On Thu, 19 May 2016 17:48:33 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
> Looking at the source package I cannot see a single
> invasive patch WRT to the original source.
Correction: I missed a patch when skimming over the
package contents. I can see now what you meant by
"Debianisms". Sorry for the co
On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:13:31 -1000
Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having handled many of the issues relating to init system
> to the point of being able to release Devuan jessie beta,
> I wonder if Devuan community is ready to support action on
> other scourges of the linux on personal computer ecos
On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:03:57 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I would love a wayy to diable CAPSLOCK entirely. The few times I
> actually need it I can hold the shift key down, but turing caps lock on
> is a cocmmon typo for 'a'. It I'm in mutt (as I am now) that has
> serious consequences.
You
On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:22:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:13:31 -1000
> Joel Roth wrote:
>> 2) Terminate X via Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
>>
>>Seems like an easy, useful, historic way to kill a malfunctioning
>> X.
>
> Yeah, I remember fondly the days when this worked. Someone
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:18:17PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:03:57 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > I would love a wayy to diable CAPSLOCK entirely. The few times I
> > actually need it I can hold the shift key down, but turing caps lock on
> > is a cocmmon typo for 'a'. I
On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:37:54 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:18:17PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:03:57 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>
>>> I would love a wayy to diable CAPSLOCK entirely. The few times I
>>> actually need it I can hold the shift key down
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:48:26PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:37:54 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:18:17PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> >> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:03:57 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would love a wayy to diable CAPSLOCK entirely.
Is the connection information in simple-netaid/netman still stored under
/etc/network/wifi, or has that changed? I haven't kept up with that, and I
need to know for refractasnapshot, as there is an option to include or
exclude network settings when making the snapshot.
-fsr
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KatolaZ writes:
[...]
> Steve, I cannot (and I don't want to) make any assumption on behalf of
> potential users of a minimal live system :) The initramfs contains all
> the modules shipped with the standard Devuan kernel, that's why it is
> so fat. In fact, "du -ch /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kerne
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 08:14:34PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> >
> > Imagine a case in which you, the user, would like to boot from a live
> > image, e.g. for rescue purposes, only to find out that your live CD
> > does not recognise your disk controller, or your graphic adapter, or
> > your e
On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:37:54 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20160519163754.ga12...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:18:17PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:03:57 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > > I would love a wayy to diable CAPSLOCK entirely. The few times I
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:13 PM Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having handled many of the issues relating to init system
> to the point of being able to release Devuan jessie beta,
> I wonder if Devuan community is ready to support action on
> other scourges of the linux on personal computer ecosyste
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 07:36:57PM +, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
[cut]
>
> On the subject of people that get thrown into the console for the first
> time when something breaks, there's a lot of room to improve here. What I'd
> like to see is something reasonably consistent with the curses in
On Thu, 19 May 2016 21:35:54 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:37:54 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> <20160519163754.ga12...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:18:17PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:03:57 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>>
I w
On Thu, 19 May 2016 21:57:26 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
> [1] See man xkeyboard-config for a full list of available
> options. Beware, it's huge!
Or have a look at /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst
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On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 05:24:26PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
The CPU in Raspberry Pi 1 does support some, but not all, new features the
armhf arch requires. The Raspbian team wanted to get all speedups they can,
and, as for example floating point tasks greatly benefit from armhf's
calling conv
On Thu, 19 May 2016 22:04:32 +0200, Irrwahn wrote in message
:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016 21:57:26 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
>
> > [1] See man xkeyboard-config for a full list of available
> > options. Beware, it's huge!
>
> Or have a look at /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst
..thanks, I g
On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 06:26 -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
> On 2016-05-18 12:11, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > ...
> > I'm listed as a co-maintainer of openrc (as well as ifupdown).
> > However, due to
> > the hostile environment in Debian I'm reluctant to do any serious
> > work on these
> > packages, e
+1
As a jwm user I would really like to see it brought up to date.
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016 17:48:33 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
>
> > Looking at the source package I cannot see a single
> > invasive patch WRT to the original source.
>
>
> Cor
On 20/05/16 09:26, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 06:26 -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
>> On 2016-05-18 12:11, Svante Signell wrote:
...
>>> I'm listed as a co-maintainer of openrc (as well as ifupdown).
>>> However, due to
>>> the hostile environment in Debian I'm reluctant to do an
Hi fsmithred,
Quote: "Is the connection information in simple-netaid/netman still stored under
/etc/network/wifi, or has that changed?"
Yes, /etc/network/wifi is still used to store wifi connection
information. The files will still store eth0 and wlan0 as network
devices. These are substituted by
Hi,
very good idea!
Please take a look for one Unix keyboard,
https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8d/Suntype5.jpg
For my finger/thumb is a pleasant to have Ctrl on the right place,
i use often Ctrl-a, Ctrl-s, Ctrl-w, Ctrl-x, Ctrl-c, Ctrl-v, Ctrl-q, Ctrl-e
Swap Ctrl and Capslook is ergonomic, a
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