On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 09:44:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
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> What I'm about to say is barely germane to what you two both said, but
> I'll say it anyway.
>
> I *never* felt comfortable in the Debian community, even before the
> "systemd thing". Those people were mean. They were arrogan
On Mon, 16 May 2016, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote:
> Icecast2 indeed behaves weird on De*an. With installation it asks to
> configure source-password, relay-password and admin-password but afterwards
> you have to edit them manually in /etc/icecast2/icecast.xml again. And you
> have to enable
On Mon, 16 May 2016 21:15:57 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> But of course, if I were ever to set up a GUI computer that used 128MB
> RAM, you'd better believe I'd use JWM.
I use JWM for the guest account on my old 1GB RAM laptop and vote for a
JWM based desktop environment in Devuan as the lightest
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 09:27:43PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > I sincerely wish the remedy of installing openrc and pinning systemd
> > would work, but I'm sure it won't on the mid-long term.
>
> It obviously can't. The same Debian leadership who voted "no" (or was
> it "we don't need no steenkin
Am Mon, 16 May 2016 13:41:14 +
schrieb dev :
> Very well spoken. Debian leadership has demonstrated it's disinterest
> in remaining "Free". There is another motive driving Debian
> development now and Systemd will end up being the core of Debian. To
> remove it will only mean uninstalling the
Another example, intentionally not systemd related:
If you use any of: backups, snapshots, nfs, etc, you'd want to have all
per-user "no data loss on failure/deletion" files in a common dir, such as
~/.cache, to make it easy to exclude or bind-mount. Currently, such caches
are strewn around hundr
On Tue, 17 May 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Am Mon, 16 May 2016 13:41:14 +
> schrieb dev :
>
> > Very well spoken. Debian leadership has demonstrated it's disinterest
> > in remaining "Free". There is another motive driving Debian
> > development now and Systemd will end up being the co
On Tue, 17 May 2016, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 09:27:43PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > I sincerely wish the remedy of installing openrc and pinning
> > > systemd would work, but I'm sure it won't on the mid-long term.
> > It obviously can't. The same Debian leadership who v
Am Tue, 17 May 2016 12:00:02 +
schrieb Florian Zieboll :
> I use JWM for the guest account on my old 1GB RAM laptop and vote for
> a JWM based desktop environment in Devuan as the lightest possible and
> really straight forward *intuitive GUI* I know. If the "Devuan JWM
> Edition" is going to
emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Please do not take my question wrong (probably i am missing something):
> If it's that way, how can devuan then rely on debian as for packages
> etc.? At least in a forseeable future ... ?
The thing is that Debian is already there, pretty well complete, and the
major
On Tue, 17 May 2016 09:15:08 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 09:44:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
[snip Steve Litt's anti-Debian community rant]
> It might be due to my natural attitude, which forbids me from spitting
> into the same plate I have been eating until 2 minutes ago,
On Tue, 17 May 2016 14:33:03 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2016, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 09:27:43PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > > > I sincerely wish the remedy of installing openrc and pinning
> > > > systemd would work, but I'm sure it won't on the mid-l
On Tue, 17 May 2016 14:11:49 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
>
> > Am Mon, 16 May 2016 13:41:14 +
> > schrieb dev :
> > Please do not take my question wrong (probably i am missing
> > something): If it's that way, how can devuan then rely on debian as
On Tue, 17 May 2016 14:34:14 +0200
wrote:
> Am Tue, 17 May 2016 12:00:02 +
> schrieb Florian Zieboll :
>
> > I use JWM for the guest account on my old 1GB RAM laptop and vote
> > for a JWM based desktop environment in Devuan as the lightest
> > possible and really straight forward *intuitive
Dear Devuaners,
thanks to your comments and suggestions, I was able to strip down
substantially the Unofficial Devuan Minimal Live images. We now can
boot the amd64 version in 96 MB of RAM and the i386 version in 80
MB. If we consider that this is still a bunch of standard Devuan
packages, with st
On 05/17/2016 06:45 AM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
Please do not take my question wrong (probably i am missing something):
If it's that way, how can devuan then rely on debian as for packages
etc.? At least in a forseeable future ... ?
Good question. Devuan and Debian are growing apart (as J
Adam Borowski wrote:
> ...the word "pirate",
> originally a bandit and murderer (and in places like Somalia, still current!)
> yet nowadays its more widespread meaning is "culture spreading activist"[1]
> (not just copyright, also, eg, radio), a term of pride for many of us.
However, it is worth n
Hi. Indeed upgrading my system in some way i lost fglrx, and now, when
i try to reinstall it from the repositories i'm getting that there is
no fglrx driver. When i reactivate the Jessie repositories, the driver
is there but when i try to install it, synaptic or apt-get lament that
fglrx depends on
On Tue, 17 May 2016 21:37:13 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Hi. Indeed upgrading my system in some way i lost fglrx, and now, when
> i try to reinstall it from the repositories i'm getting that there is
> no fglrx driver. When i reactivate the Jessie repositories, the driver
> is there but when i try to
@KatolaZ (and everyone else): I just took the 2016-05-17 iteration of
devuan-minimal for a short spin, and here are my notes. In summary, it
seems to be a nicely prepared iso, with features that I've found
overlooked in much larger distros that make attempts to be minimal.
Nice work!
devuan-minima
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