[DNG] install ascii fails

2016-01-10 Thread richard lucassen
Just FYI: I just tried to install ascii (PXE) and the installer fails when it wants to remove systemd I suppose: Jan 10 08:30:24 in-target: WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed. Jan 10 08:30:24 in-target: This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! J

Re: [DNG] install ascii fails

2016-01-10 Thread richard lucassen
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:36:26 +0100 richard lucassen wrote: Jessie no prob -- richard lucassen http://contact.xaq.nl/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] local.conf for Truetype fonts in Xorg

2016-01-10 Thread Hughe Chung
Hi, To display eye-pleasing Truetype fonts in Xorg, /etc/fonts/local.conf needs to set few options: - Anti-aliasing - Hinting - RGB type of LCD monitor - LCD filter The link (http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/subpixel.php) explains how to identify RGB type of your LCD monitor. Here is my /etc/fo

Re: [DNG] [Dng] [OT] ISIL

2016-01-10 Thread Rainer Weikusat
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" writes: > On 05.02.2015 11:42, Gravis wrote: >> please, let's not include terrorists or their ideologies in our >> conversations. > > terrorist or freedoms fighter ? "Fighting freedom" is surely on the agenda of these people [SCNR] ___

Re: [DNG] Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Anto writes: [...] > It turned out that the eth0 interface was changed to ens3, due to the > implementation of Predictable Network Interface Names > (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames). > I > can change everything which contain eth0 into ens3, but

Re: [DNG] Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Jude Nelson writes: >> Isn't the initial identification of network adapters and assignment > originally handled by the Kernel or is this another urban myth that I have > mistakenly hung on to? > > Yes--network interfaces are given a monotonically-increasing sequence > number as they are enumerated

Re: [DNG] Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Rainer Weikusat writes: [ethX reordering] > in the relative rare case that more than one network driver actually > has to be loaded, if the order in which the drivers call their init > routines changes. There's nothing which would stop "driver loading > support software" from ensuring that this

Re: [DNG] Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, As I am reading this discussion a temptative thought is coming to my mind which is: what can Devuan do to avoid this new device naming scheme breaking breaking software that rely on the old naming convention? As I wrote in my earlier reply, I am ready to offer my help in this, provided the co

Re: [DNG] Question on Devuan

2016-01-10 Thread Ángel Ramírez Isea
El 2015-12-21 10:58, Simon Hobson escribió: Linux O'Beardly wrote: While many here would probably say it's not a good idea to run servers on Devuan until a production release, I am already running it on a number of servers. That's good to know - I need to find time to do some testing myself

Re: [DNG] FW: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-10 Thread Ángel Ramírez Isea
El 2016-01-05 14:50, Joel Roth escribió: Rainer Weikusat wrote: Clarke Sideroad writes: > So I've been thinking more about this as to why? > > It is quite obvious that it is driven by Redhat to be the same as Oracle > Solaris, they say as much. That's "quite obviously" an after-the-fact justif

Re: [DNG] FW: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-10 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 10/01/2016 20:30, Ángel Ramírez Isea a écrit : IMHO, at some point we will have to start ignoring whatever they do. This looks extremely desirable. Unfortunately we are not yet at the point where there are two parallel threads of Gnu/Linux (since they persist to use that name) development.

Re: [DNG] Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Dave Turner
Slackware is hard work when you have been used to the ease of debian for so many years... Eventually it all worked OK until one particular bit of music composition software I like to use could only be found in Slackbuilds, and it would not install even after I did some editing of the scripts. I

Re: [DNG] Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Stephanie Daugherty writes: > Having dealt with systems with half a dozen interfaces in the past there's > a very small number of cases where it even matters, but when it does, it > can be a huge inconvenience either way. Namely, "it matters" because Dell boxes with more than one interface usuall

[DNG] ifconfig etc (was: Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?)

2016-01-10 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: [...] > Second, once you really know the new ip command (and forget the old > ifconfig stuff), JFTR: I've adopted 'the new IP command' with a sigh of relief by the time it was actually new. That was when Linux 2.2 was released in 1998. ___

[DNG] That one unsupported app: was Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 21:55:48 + Dave Turner wrote: > Slackware is hard work when you have been used to the ease of debian > for so many years... > Eventually it all worked OK until one particular bit of music > composition software I like to use could only be found in > Slackbuilds, and it wo

Re: [DNG] netman-gtk3

2016-01-10 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, I'm making progress in netman-gtk3: http://s15.postimg.org/5zzjn2k0b/Screenshot_01112016_12_37_27_AM.png Piano, piano :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] That one unsupported app: was Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
OpenBSD's overall stance on virtualization makes it a poor choice for a desktop OS unfortunately. I partially understand the reasoning, however, given the limits of software support on the *BSDs in general, and OpenBSD in particular, the lack of virtualization options effectively makes it unusable

Re: [DNG] FW: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-10 Thread david
This looks extremely desirable. Unfortunately we are not yet at the point where there are two parallel threads of Gnu/Linux (since they persist to use that name) development. RedHat and Debian are still the major driving force, due to their large number of developpers. And Devuan is still derived

Re: [DNG] That one unsupported app: was Predictable Network Interface Names - Stupid or good idea?

2016-01-10 Thread Dave Turner
All the BSDs have the packages I want and need, except working WiFi for laptops! My main desktop is an old Intel iMac. FreeBSD and PC-BSD would not install. I could not get sound to work on NetBSD and OpenBSD. So the old iMac runs debian jessie systemd and all. My old laptop is now running devua

Re: [DNG] FW: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-10 Thread Dave Turner
Yes, I agree completely. Getting all the anti-systemd distros working together would be a very good thing. DaveT On 11/01/16 01:05, da...@olansa.co.uk wrote: This looks extremely desirable. Unfortunately we are not yet at the point where there are two parallel threads of Gnu/Linux (since they