> Martijn seems to have a solution for polls, let's do that instead.
> > FWIW.
>
> yes that is a kind offer. I do believe surveys help to choose things the
> LEAN way, keeping in touch with the general sense, so yes Martijn we'll
> use it.
>
>
My pleasure, I will run something up tomorrow (packed d
Le 27/02/2015 00:07, Joel Roth a écrit :
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 06:02:16PM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> >http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/penguins/trio.png
>
>ha! it just needs words like "Linux: Strut your stuff" [?]
I thought of photoshopping in a jail out of which they are
walking.
Both
Matthew Melton
m...@mjmworks.co.uk
KatolaZ wrote
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 07:13:38PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> >
> > Well, I agree about the necessity of having a logo, but there is no
> > point into having a great brand without anything concrete behind it,
> > IMHO
В Thu, 26 Feb 2015 07:25:16 +
KatolaZ пишет:
> I personally think that the essence of that nice post is in the very
> last quote:
>
> "Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
> poorly."
I've another story, same way: "Whenever people did invent good (here
comes its crit
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:19:04 +
KatolaZ пишет:
> > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ста Деюс
> > wrote:
> > > But, at the first, what is planned to perform to protect «Devuan»
> > > from the guys, that got hold of the fantastic project «Debian»?
> > > In other words, if the guys come to «Dev
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 04:35:47PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 04:30:39PM -0500, william moss wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA256
> >
> > On 02/23/2015 04:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > I have a three-or-four year-old laptop on which I am repla
On 02/22/2015 07:28 PM, Jim Murphy wrote:
> [...]
> Part of the discussion:
>
>>> btrfs checksumming theoretically allows you to transparently recover
>>> after media corruption if filesystem has redundancy (more than one
>>> copy of data). Journald checksum will probably detect corruption, but
>>>
Hmmm, you might have to use isohybrid (in the syslinux package) to make the
ISO bootable when dd'ed to a USB key. See
http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/iso2usb.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Hendrik Boom
wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 04:35:47PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 2
> > > for example
> > > dd if=/home/daffyduck/download/devian.iso of=/dev/sde
>
> Did that.
>
> Wouldn't boot.
>
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
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Am Freitag, 27. Februar 2015 schrieb Martijn Dekkers:
> > > > for example
> > > > dd if=/home/daffyduck/download/devian.iso of=/dev/sde
> >
> > Did that.
> >
> > Wouldn't boot.
> >
>
> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
>
some computers need a partition table on the usb-stick to boot.
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:21:03AM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> Hmmm, you might have to use isohybrid (in the syslinux package) to make the
> ISO bootable when dd'ed to a USB key. See
> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/iso2usb.
Did that. dd'd it again. Now it boots, though, as expected, it still
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 01:56:56PM +, Matthew Melton wrote:
[cut]
> >
> > Just to support my point, Debian has a great logo, but this is what is
> > currently happening to the users of Jessie, thanks to the
> > systemd-nonsense:
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00013.
> How much should systemd damage the image of GNU/Linux before everybody
realise how much of a nonsense it is?
the image of linux is /not/ what will cause change.
- people will switch when the annoyance of unexpected systemd behavior
outweighs the annoyance of getting rid of systemd
- developers
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:03:22PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:21:03AM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> > Hmmm, you might have to use isohybrid (in the syslinux package) to make the
> > ISO bootable when dd'ed to a USB key. See
> > http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/iso2usb.
>
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:05:49 +
KatolaZ пишет:
> If it is true that "freedom of choice" sounds like a cool flagship, on
> the other hand we effectively have no freedom at all about the choice
> of the large majority of the core components of a GNU/Linux system,
> starting with the libc and cont
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:39:06 +0100
Didier Kryn пишет:
> I think this question goes together with the badge or logo
> question. It must go beyond "sans-systemd";
> it is more about principles. Let's list some:
>
> - freedom of choice,
> - interchangealility of solutions to a given need,
On 02/22/2015 05:45 PM, Mark Maxwell wrote:
On 22/02/15 20:11, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hello,
A few questions about the GUI for Devuan...
1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an
icon or other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of
available wifi networ
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:56:28 -0500
Hendrik Boom пишет:
> > Well the answer is simple: if such an unlikely "invasion" would
> > happen, we will always have the opportunity to fork Devuan, for the
> > good of its users :)
>
> This suggests that one of the goals of Devuan should be easy
> forkabil
Quite frankly, I would not overly concern myself with Lennart's
Poettering's opinion.
He has been quoted: "Open Source community is full of assholes, and I
probably more than most others am one of their most favourite targets."
That's probably true in many ways. I've seen plenty of them, how
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 19:32:08 +0100
Jaromil пишет:
> > This suggests that one of the goals of Devuan should be easy
> > forkability.
> >
> > But it's not clear to me what this involves technically.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
> perhaps the SDK is a good start on this ;^)
Yea! That's a very goo
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:28:41 +
Noel Torres пишет:
> > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/blob/devuan-alpha/graphic
> > s/init-freedom/if.png
>
> I'd prefer any logo that does not use english initials or play on
> words.
Awesome! As it is the planet-wide project, why make it
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:39:10 +
Noel Torres пишет:
> I do not find it swear nor violent. I find way more violent to
> request us (not me, DWN is made by a growig group of people) to stop
> using words that are not swear just because they incomodate a single
> person, and that single person spea
В Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:15:24 +0100
Anthony Scemama пишет:
> I found this image on the web:
>
> http://tux.crystalxp.net/png/kros753-kiss-the-demon-2286.png
>
>
> It's a good mix between KISS and Linux!
> If you like it, I can ask the guys from CrystalXP.net if it can be
> used for Devuan.
I g
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 07:22:26PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote:
> > Could you please cease «kickass» here -- for people read your news
> > also, but such rudness leaves them nothing but to shrink from your
> > writing. Thanks again for the news though.
>
> “kickass” is not even a swear word.
I thi
On Fri, 2015-02-27 at 18:13 +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 01:56:56PM +, Matthew Melton wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > >
> > > Just to support my point, Debian has a great logo, but this is what is
> > > currently happening to the users of Jessie, thanks to the
> > > systemd-nonsens
On Fri, 2/27/15, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Friday, February 27, 2015, 2:12 PM
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 07:22:26PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote:
> > Could you please cease «kickass» here -- for people read your news
> > also, but su
On 02/27/15 16:21, Ста Деюс wrote:
>
> Awesome! As it is the planet-wide project, why make it necessary to
> translate even logo into languages? - Let it be just graphical stuff.
>
*** Why is everybody looking for the One Ring to Rule Them All? Can't
we have unity through diversity? Are we all
On 02/27/15 16:16, Ста Деюс wrote:
>
> It is swear to me, and can/ be for others.
>
*** *I* used "kickass" in the common slang meaning of "very good or
impressive", or "very effective". As a non-native English speaker as
well, it didn't occur to me that it was impolite to do so, and
apparently th
> It is swear to me, and can/ be for others.
>
> You' re free to whatever you want within your company, body, spirit --
> but, please stop doing it publicaly - for the people it is not
> acceptable to hear such a speech/language that you or your company
> lives w/.
this coming from the person that
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Gravis wrote:
> - people will switch when the annoyance of unexpected systemd behavior
> outweighs the annoyance of getting rid of systemd
> - developers will stop using it when something nicer with wider support
> comes along or they personally are fed up with sys
frankly, i find the "badges" to be a petty jab at other distros that is
more of a distraction than anything else.
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:30 PM, hellekin wrote:
> On 02/27/15 16:21, Ста Деюс wrote:
> >
> > Awesome! As it is the planet-wide project, why make it necessary to
> > transl
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:30 PM, hellekin wrote:
>> Awesome! As it is the planet-wide project, why make it necessary to
>> translate even logo into languages? - Let it be just graphical stuff.
+1
> *** Why is everybody looking for the One Ring to Rule Them All? Can't
> we have unity through div
> *** Why is everybody looking for the One Ring to Rule Them All? Can't
> we have unity through diversity? Are we all subject of Mordor's torpor
> and subjugation?
which makes me think some kind of broken ring, or melted ring, could
be an idea for the devuan or rootslinux logo . . . breaking fre
On Fri, 2/27/15, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Friday, February 27, 2015, 3:27 PM
>
> And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus
> makes much more sense.
>
>
W
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Go Linux wrote:
>> And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus
>> makes much more sense.
> Why?
'Cos us humans and out need for recognizable patterns can't quite classify it :)
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On Fri, 2/27/15, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Friday, February 27, 2015, 4:11 PM
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Go Linux wrote:
>> And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus
>> makes much more sense.
> Wh
trying to look different for the sake of looking different is stupid.
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Nuno Magalhães
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> >> And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus
> >> makes much more sense.
> > Why?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 06:13:24PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 01:56:56PM +, Matthew Melton wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > >
> > > Just to support my point, Debian has a great logo, but this is what is
> > > currently happening to the users of Jessie, thanks to the
> > > systemd-
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:18:15 -0600
"T.J. Duchene" wrote:
> With respect to all, I think that a measure of objectivity is called
> for here. I think that because personality clashes that Debian's
> entire systemd discussion has lost any sense of reality long ago.
You know, T.J., I might just ag
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 18:05:49 -0300
hellekin wrote:
> On 02/27/15 16:16, Ста Деюс wrote:
> >
> > It is swear to me, and can/ be for others.
> >
> *** *I* used "kickass" in the common slang meaning of "very good or
> impressive", or "very effective". As a non-native English speaker as
> well, it
Hi all,
An email I thought was going to just five people went to the list. It
was an accident, and I'm sorry.
SteveT
Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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Lol! I recently happened to be researching the different soundsystem
architectures, after incinerating pulseaudio on my laptop/Wheezy and then
having different problems, and found --> https://wiki.debian.org/Sound
What struck me of particular interest were the three diagrams of how
alsa/jack/pulse
> >
> > http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
> >
>
> some computers need a partition table on the usb-stick to boot.
>
>
unetbootin should take care of that
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>
> So, i see for protection two ways: technical, like minimalism for easy
> forking, and community driven development of the project.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_by_committee
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I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel since
Linus dramatically rejected Kay Sievers' code last spring. Recently there has
been renewed chatter about the impending doom. But I'm not quite clear how that
would affect devuan. Hoping you can help me get a grip on
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 04:32:36PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote:
> > *** Why is everybody looking for the One Ring to Rule Them All? Can't
> > we have unity through diversity? Are we all subject of Mordor's torpor
> > and subjugation?
>
> which makes me think some kind of broken ring, or melted ring,
> OFFLIST
>
Glad it was not OFFLIST - it shows true colors.
> I'd suggest we not discuss the meaning or connotation of "kickass"
> anymore. The guy who originally had the hissy-fit, Ста Деюс, had been on
> the list one whole day (with three basically non-contributory posts)
> when he decided to
>
> this coming from the person that has the initials for "shut the hell up"
> as their signature.
>
"sthu" is actually how you would spell "Ста" in Latin - he is simply
singing off with his first name, like a normal person.
"С" = "S" in English
"т" = "th" phonetically in English
"а" = "u" phonet
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