Le 17/02/2015 01:23, Isaac Dunham a écrit :
But shell scripts can be written well, and writing a shell script to
solve a problem beats writing a custom config to handle how one tool
does it, and then not being able to apply that to another platform...
or an older version of the same distro. A
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On 02/15/2015 08:50 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> Doesn't Enlightenment have a display manager, and isn't systemd
> optional for Enlightenment? -Jonathan
I've been using "slim" for logging in (on Gentoo / FreeBSD ever since
my escape from Debian) and i
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:15:14PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
> > On February 16, 2015 at 8:25 PM Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 07:34:57PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
>
> > > “Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”
> > > ― Edmund Burke
> > >
> > > Peter Olson
>
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:32:28 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 06:41:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:36:19 -0600
> > Vince Mulhollon wrote:
> >
> >
> > > There shouldn't be any "tweaking" for a desktop. This whole bad
> > > idea comes from marketing
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:46:16 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:41:52 +0100
> Svante Signell wrote:
> > Hi, it is a little slow without hardware acceleration: -enable-kvm
> > is the solution here if you have recent Intel/AMD CPUs.
>
> Oh, *that's* why it was so slow. Cool, l
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:19:27AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:32:28 -0500
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 06:41:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:36:19 -0600
> > > Vince Mulhollon wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > There shouldn't be
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 02:52:12 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> a few simple steps to have Devuan-pre-alpha-valentine installed and
> running on qemu:
>
> 0)# wget
> "http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso";
>
> 1)$ apt-get install qemu-kvm
>
> 2)$ qemu-
> A document that makes installation and use trivial, and makes it
> simple, is worth its weight in gold.
the instructions dont actually weigh anything so saying it's worth it's
weight in gold is saying they aren't worth anything. ;)
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Steve Litt
wrote:
Was probably based on deprecated printed-doc time philosophy ;-)
Didier
Le 17/02/2015 17:57, Gravis a écrit :
> A
document that makes installation and use trivial, and makes it
> simple, is
worth its weight in gold.
There's a counter-argument that, while being read and digested, the
instructions occupy a significant part of the human brain, which weighs
in at ~1.5kg, the gold price for which weight is currently around USD
58,000. Then again this attention is temporary so the worth will be too.
Next up, how
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836
!! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i
didn't!! :) why is this stuff so hard to find??
l.
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On Tue, 2/17/15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:49 AM
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836
> !! did anyone have a clue that this has alr
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:36:00 +
Jaromil wrote:
>
> re all,
>
> Here is a pre-alpha sneak preview of Devuan at the current state of
> affairs.
[snip]
> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! This is very encouraging, a
Actually Dragan posted the link on 8-Jan-2015 in this list.
They are well along in removing systemd.
The image was an easy install on my desktop at home.
But I've been away with only 2 AA1 netbooks and an S2.
Problem is most of their devs only speak Serbian.
Their development is somewhat, more o
PS: their ISO is 64 bit only which eliminates my currently accesible
equipment. RH
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Richard wrote:
> Actually Dragan posted the link on 8-Jan-2015 in this list.
>
> They are well along in removing systemd.
> The image was an easy install on my desktop at home.
>
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:36:00 +
Jaromil wrote:
>
> re all,
>
> Here is a pre-alpha sneak preview of Devuan at the current state of
> affairs.
Jaromil,
This couldn't have come at a better moment!
Right now, the remnants of the Debian-User mailing list are declaring
victory, and yelling th
>Author: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>Date: 2015-02-17 18:49 +100
>To: dng
>Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
>http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=119836
>
>!! did anyone have a clue that this has already been done? i
>didn't!! :) why is this stuff so
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> On Tue, 2/17/15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
> Subject: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 11:49 AM
>
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=
And yet I find it telling that none has so far answered Luke's question
as to why they are not bothered about the recent changes and direction
as he is. Was it bad for me to presume that no one would answer?
- Nate
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. Th
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:28:28 -0600
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> And yet I find it telling that none has so far answered Luke's
> question as to why they are not bothered about the recent changes and
> direction as he is. Was it bad for me to presume that no one would
> answer?
>
> - Nate
Nate, could
> Nate, could you please summarize Luke's question? I haven't been able
> to completely read any of his posts.
its more than just a question, but you probably want :
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html
( that I just added to my systemd vault list of important links to
read
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36:38AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
[cut]
>
> Then KatolaZ exactly documented the four steps to installation, and I
> said "I can do that in my sleep, while doing other work!" So I did it,
> and it worked (although slowly because -enable-kvm wasn't in the
> commands). Kat
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 04:41:12PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote:
> > Nate, could you please summarize Luke's question? I haven't been able
> > to completely read any of his posts.
> its more than just a question, but you probably want :
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html
>
>
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:41:12 -0500
Neo Futur wrote:
> > Nate, could you please summarize Luke's question? I haven't been
> > able to completely read any of his posts.
> its more than just a question, but you probably want :
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html
The prec
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:48:02 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36:38AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Then KatolaZ exactly documented the four steps to installation, and
> > I said "I can do that in my sleep, while doing other work!" So I
> > did it, and it worked
Hello,
I've got a question about how to split a library package so it works well
with multiarch.
The source package in question is libsysdev.
When properly configured, it installs roughly the following files:
/usr/lib/*/libsysdev.so.0.0 (and symlinks)
/usr/lib/*/libsysdev.a
/usr/lib/*/p
* On 2015 17 Feb 16:48 -0600, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:41:12 -0500
> Neo Futur wrote:
>
> > > Nate, could you please summarize Luke's question? I haven't been
> > > able to completely read any of his posts.
> > its more than just a question, but you probably want :
> >
> > http
On Thursday, 12 de February de 2015 18:28:15 Usspookes Lovesystemd escribió:
> Why? Bastille is/was great.
>
> It didn't change, the rug was pulled out from underneath it.
> Who would have thought routines in TK and ncurses would be
> Dpreeeciattteedd!!! (gay voice of the SJWers)
I'll put it
hey thanks everyone I actually didnt know the --enable-kvm Switch was such an
improvement :-) this will make the development process snappier
feedback on how the pre alpha feels is welcome, we shall work on making a few
things better, looking fwd to dimkr input if we can already get around login
TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their
technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for
Devuan's future too.
with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for
the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's
On February 17, 2015 10:41:12 PM GMT+01:00, Neo Futur wrote:
>> Nate, could you please summarize Luke's question? I haven't been able
>> to completely read any of his posts.
>its more than just a question, but you probably want :
>
>https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html
>
>(
Ouch, was this necessary in anyway ? (If anything, it's disappointing to
me. Let's act like adults...)
Donkey Saplot
On 2015-02-17 18:23, Steve Litt wrote:
> Right now, the remnants of the Debian-User mailing list are declaring
> victory, and yelling their usual counter-revolutionary rhetoric.
On 02/17/15 20:17, Jaromil wrote:
TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their
technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for
Devuan's future too.
with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for the
# Devuan Weekly News Issue XII
__Volume 002, Week 7, Devuan Week 12__
https://git.devuan.org/Envite/devuan-weekly-news/wikis/past-issues/volume-002/issue-012
## Editorial
__Hit a Wall? Here's a Ladder__
An uneasy wind blew fetid laments of arrogance and ivory towering.
These accusations are
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:40:43 -0600
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2015 17 Feb 16:48 -0600, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:41:12 -0500
> > Neo Futur wrote:
> >
> > > > Nate, could you please summarize Luke's question? I haven't been
> > > > able to completely read any of his posts.
>
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