Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Irrwahn
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:15:25 -0400, Fsmithred wrote: > On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Irrwahn wrote: >> FWIW, I've got three Devuan installations running: jessie VM, ascii VM, >> ascii on real hardware. In all of them I was able to get everything >> (including shutdown et. al) working without systemd, e

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Irrwahn wrote: > When there's a /lib/systemd/systemd-logind, then not all the systemd > packages were purged properly. :-) Anyway, IIRC dimkr is already working > on a fix for the logind/consolekit clash. Yeah, I know. That file was gone after I removed the systemd pack

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Irrwahn
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:54:06 -0400, Fsmithred wrote: > On 06/12/2015 09:33 AM, Irrwahn wrote: >> - Make sure you're using sysvinit-core as init system, and slim or lightdm >> as >> your display manager. >> >> - Purge everything *systemd*! However, you may want to keep libsystemd0, in >> case

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/12/2015 09:33 AM, Irrwahn wrote: > fsmithred wrote on 12.06.2015 14:40: >> >> Not the OP here, and not exactly what you're asking, but here's what I did >> yesterday: >> >> Installed devuan-alpha2-amd64 netinstall iso in virtualbox. At tasksel, I >> un-checked Print Server and Devuan Desktop

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Irrwahn
fsmithred wrote on 12.06.2015 14:40: > > Not the OP here, and not exactly what you're asking, but here's what I did > yesterday: > > Installed devuan-alpha2-amd64 netinstall iso in virtualbox. At tasksel, I > un-checked Print Server and Devuan Desktop Environment, and I checked > XFCE. All seemed

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 04:11:12AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: > > Anyway, differently from debian, even in the alpha stage in devuan you > can, right now and avoiding some packages like gnome things, have a > completely systemd install. But it's NOT ready, it's NOT release, it's Might you mean "c

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:40:44 -0400 fsmithred wrote: > After that, shutdown and reboot buttons stopped working in xfce and > lightdm. Only logout from the desktop worked, bringing me to the > login screen. This has been the bane of my existence since long before systemd. Sometimes my logout and r

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/11/2015 02:17 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi Clarke, > > Can you: > * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like > "aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i")? > * use "apt-cache rdepends" to show us which packages depend on them? > > Thanks, > Jude > Not the OP h

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 02:38:30PM +0530, Gautam Nath wrote: > We all are sure that you will take care of those things in case of fresh > installation. This will take some more time only. Heartfull of thanks. > > I am a general user and sourcing devuan/merged repositary. This might be > better tha

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Gautam Nath
We all are sure that you will take care of those things in case of fresh installation. This will take some more time only. Heartfull of thanks. I am a general user and sourcing devuan/merged repositary. This might be better that all bad stuff will be deleted on regular (upgrade)dist-upgrade. For f

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 04:11:12 +0200 Franco Lanza wrote: > Anyway, differently from debian, even in the alpha stage in devuan you > can, right now and avoiding some packages like gnome things, have a > completely systemd install. Even more to the point, unlike Debian, with Devuan Alpha 2 you can

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Franco Lanza
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 06:49:55AM -0700, Go Linux wrote: > I have been wondering about this. There have been posts over at FDN putting > down Devuan because there were still systemd packages installed. So is > Devuan free of systemd libs or not? IIRC the Valentine's release had some > system

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:17:30 -0400 Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi Clarke, > > Can you: > * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed > (something like "aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i")? > * use "apt-cache rdepends" to show us which packages depend on them? > > Thanks, > Jude I'll

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 06/11/2015 02:17 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Clarke, Can you: * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like "aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i")? * use "apt-cache rdepends" to show us which packages depend on them? Hi Jude, * *Here they are as requested on a ne

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 06/11/2015 02:17 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Clarke, Can you: * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like "aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i")? * use "apt-cache rdepends" to show us which packages depend on them? Hi Jude, I'll do a reinstall this evening an

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Clarke, Can you: * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like "aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i")? * use "apt-cache rdepends" to show us which packages depend on them? Thanks, Jude On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Clarke Sideroad wrote: > On 06/11/2015 11:04

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 06/11/2015 11:04 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 08:35:34 -0400 Clarke Sideroad wrote: It seems my fresh netboot install this morning has swallowed and installed systemd. It was an "expert" 64bit install of "jessie" with XFCE and subsequently firmware-linux-non-free had been insta

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Chris Dos
On 06/11/2015 09:04 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi Clarke, > > First, from what I understand, the microsecond you get Devuan Alpha 2 > installed, go into /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the two from > debian, leaving only the ones from devuan. I think that will help some. > > > Third, what lea

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 08:35:34 -0400 Clarke Sideroad wrote: > It seems my fresh netboot install this morning has swallowed and > installed systemd. > It was an "expert" 64bit install of "jessie" with XFCE and > subsequently firmware-linux-non-free had been installed for the > embeded video and the

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 06:49:55AM -0700, Go Linux wrote: [cut] > > - > > I have been wondering about this. There have been posts over at FDN putting > down Devuan because there were still systemd packages installed. So is > Devuan free of systemd libs or

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 6/11/15, Clarke Sideroad wrote: Subject: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2015, 7:35 AM It seems my fresh netboot install this morning has swallowed and installed systemd. It

[Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 06/11/2015 12:56 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:15:13 +0200 Jaromil wrote: re all, to avoid dispersion I've hacked together a file download zone which is pulling builds from various places and updating a binary file repository where people can download the latest ALPHA series