Hi Katolaz,
Apologies for the delay.
KatolaZ writes:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 09:14:45PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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>> > It's in my todo-list, but I would be grateful of you would be so kind
>> > to please open a bug on bugs.devuan.org, so we are sure we don't
>> > forget it.
>>
On 2019-02-14 07:10, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:50:31PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
In general, in a server environment an admin wants to make sure that
an upgrade actually does not stop the running services from doing
their job as planned. Especially if there are customisations a
I'm also a person who thinks unattended security upgrades should be an
informed choice of an installer not a default.
My perspective is a little distorted due to experiences in a past life
with Microsoft Windows "Automatic Updates" run amok.
In fact these days, other than the occasional hardwar
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:50:31PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> In general, in a server environment an admin wants to make sure that
> an upgrade actually does not stop the running services from doing
> their job as planned. Especially if there are customisations and/or
> other hacks put in place to
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 09:14:45PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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> It's pulled in through a recommends by python3-software-properties which
> itself is depended on by libreoffice-kde by way of a dependency on the
> software-properties-kde package. The libreoffice-kde package is
> recomm
Hi KatolaZ,
KatolaZ writes:
> [cut]
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> None of the available task-*-desktop options brings in
> unattended-upgrades (even with --install-recommends), with the only
> exception of task-kde-desktop with --install-recommends. We need to
> track down what is bringing it in, and remove it.
It's pull
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 06:02:52AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
> >
> >
> > https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap
> >
> >
> >
> > >
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:03:27PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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> As long as parl-desktop cannot be selected in the installer, I would
> have said you were right if it weren't for what follows below.
>
Dear Olaf,
I double-checked and there is no task-parl-desktop in Devuan. There is
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:03:27PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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> Checking the other way around with (notice the lack of an 'r' on the
> depends!) on, for example, task-gnome-desktop
>
> apt-cache depends --recurse \
> --no-suggests \
> --no-co
Hi KatolaZ,
KatolaZ writes:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>>
>> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap
>>
>> > As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgr
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 09:12:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi KatolaZ,
>
> KatolaZ writes:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> >>
> >> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for
> >> me. Apart from running t
Hi KatolaZ,
KatolaZ writes:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>
>> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for
>> me. Apart from running the `apt upgrade` it can also check for the need to
>> reboot and provides a number of k
On 2/12/19 3:32 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> it's a Debian thing that depend on systemd to start at reboot
>
> Sounds like something we don't want.
just for the record, unattended-upgrades doesn't depend on systemd.
and it's something i use/want on servers(debian+devuan). for security
updates only.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
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>
> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for
> me. Apart from running the `apt upgrade` it can also check for the need to
> reboot and provides a number of knobs to fine tune when, how and under
>
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>
>
> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap
>
>
>
> > As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
> > apt-listchan
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:32:25 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>
>
> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap
>
>
>
> > As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
> > apt-listchanges p
Hi,
Alessandro Selli writes:
> On 12/02/19 at 14:32, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>>
>>
>> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap
>>
>>
>>
>>> As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
>>
On 12/02/19 at 14:32, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
>
>
> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap
>
>
>
>> As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
>> apt-listchanges packages are installed
I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap
> As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
> apt-listchanges packages are installed by default and upgrades are
> enabled with the GNOME
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