Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:19:50AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > The only feasible way I can see to make anything similar to what you > seem to have in mind is by using BSD-like ports for non-core > components. It is impossible for the "ancillary" stuff (whatever it > means) to remain in sync with the "c

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread Patrick Erdmann
On 17.07.2015 11:25, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:50 AM James Powell > wrote: > > There is one thing I would recommend different that the standard > Debian model. Release only the right amount of packages to create a > working op

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 02:41:58AM -0700, James Powell wrote: > The core of any distribution is very akin to what you could draw from an LFS > book, with some reasonable extras like those with Gentoo/Funtoo to create not > just a basic core system, but a working base model. Yes, it could be very

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread James Powell
Phone From: Stephanie Daugherty<mailto:sdaughe...@gmail.com> Sent: ‎7/‎17/‎2015 2:25 AM To: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org> Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan LTS On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:50 AM James Powell wrote: > There is one thing I would recommend different that the sta

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:50 AM James Powell wrote: > There is one thing I would recommend different that the standard Debian > model. Release only the right amount of packages to create a working > operating system under a complete installation, and dedicate the rest of > all packages to Debian

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 09:09:10AM +, Noel Torres wrote: [cut] > >It sounds like Slackware, and there is a clear reason why I have been > >using Debian and not Slackware. I believe that the > >stable-testing-unstable-experimental organisation is working already > >fine. We can discuss whether

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread Noel Torres
KatolaZ escribió: On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09:57:08PM -0700, James Powell wrote: An LTS branch isn't needed if you do version controlled releases and sponsor support for versioned releases for at least 3-4 versions back. [cut] As releases mature, 1.0 would be maintained until the fourth

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2015, 22:43:54 schrieb Gregory Nowak: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 07:25:10AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > The year of updates was general availability. When that ended, regular > > squeeze archives got moved away, and a new repository, squeeze-lts, was > > created. And it

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09:57:08PM -0700, James Powell wrote: > An LTS branch isn't needed if you do version controlled releases and sponsor > support for versioned releases for at least 3-4 versions back. [cut] > > As releases mature, 1.0 would be maintained until the fourth or fifth release

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:49:49PM -0700, James Powell wrote: > There is one thing I would recommend different that the standard Debian > model. Release only the right amount of packages to create a working > operating system under a complete installation, and dedicate the rest of all > packages

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread James Powell
ts.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org> Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan LTS On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 07:25:10AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > The year of updates was general availability. When that ended, regular > squeeze archives got moved away, and a new repository, squeeze-lts, was >

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread James Powell
<mailto:sdaughe...@gmail.com> Sent: ‎7/‎16/‎2015 10:37 PM To: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org> Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan LTS ILTS just doesn't make sense with a release cycle that's already set to be one of the slowest in the Linux world. Debian, and now Devuan

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 07:25:10AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > The year of updates was general availability. When that ended, regular > squeeze archives got moved away, and a new repository, squeeze-lts, was > created. And it's still alive and supported, on a set of architectures > reduced to a

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
wise 1.0 would transmigrate to 1.1. > > How does that sound? > > Sent from my Windows Phone > -- > From: Adam Borowski > Sent: ‎7/‎16/‎2015 9:44 PM > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan LTS > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09:57:06PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 06:44:39AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Since squeeze, every release has amd64+i386-only long term support. > > Ok, there were about two years between squeeze and wheezy. There was a > year of updates for s

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread Peter Olson
> On July 17, 2015 at 12:57 AM James Powell wrote: > > An LTS branch isn't needed if you do version controlled releases and sponsor > support for versioned releases for at least 3-4 versions back. > > To be fair, I've used Slackware long enough to see how maintaining a versioned > release can go

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread James Powell
from my Windows Phone From: Adam Borowski<mailto:kilob...@angband.pl> Sent: ‎7/‎16/‎2015 9:44 PM To: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org> Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan LTS On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09:39:41PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > the recent

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 06:44:39AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Since squeeze, every release has amd64+i386-only long term support. Ok, there were about two years between squeeze and wheezy. There was a year of updates for squeeze after wheezy came out. That makes three years. I was thinking in t

Re: [DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 09:39:41PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > the recent discussions here have made me think about what features I > would like devuan to have which debian doesn't currently have. One > feature that comes to mind is a long term support branch like what > ubuntu has. Since squeez

[DNG] devuan LTS

2015-07-16 Thread Gregory Nowak
Hi all, the recent discussions here have made me think about what features I would like devuan to have which debian doesn't currently have. One feature that comes to mind is a long term support branch like what ubuntu has. I think this would be great for those of us who are running servers, and are