Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2016-01-02 Thread Mitt Green
>Note that some of the systemd devs have started work on bus1 (their own >replacement for kdbus). I guess the name is systemdbus (:___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2016-01-01 Thread Simon Wise
On 01/01/16 06:05, Simon Hobson wrote: Mitt Green wrote: I reckon as long as his Fedora boots, he doesn't care. I think that's the key reason. Linus is concerned with the kernel - and while I suspect he has personal preferences about what is run on top of that, he's "detached" enough to tak

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2016-01-01 Thread John Rigg
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 05:26:01PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2015 31 Dec 14:53 -0600, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > Can you say "kdbus?" > > That doesn't worry me much at this stage as unlike at the higher layers > where SD support seems to result in support for certain other APIs being >

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2015-12-31 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 31 Dec 14:53 -0600, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Can you say "kdbus?" That doesn't worry me much at this stage as unlike at the higher layers where SD support seems to result in support for certain other APIs being removed, the kernel has gained all sorts of features over the years that are

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2015-12-31 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 12/31/15 2:05 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: Mitt Green wrote: I reckon as long as his Fedora boots, he doesn't care. I think that's the key reason. Linus is concerned with the kernel - and while I suspect he has personal preferences about what is run on top of that, he's "detached" enough to

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2015-12-31 Thread Simon Hobson
Mitt Green wrote: > I reckon as long as his Fedora boots, he doesn't care. I think that's the key reason. Linus is concerned with the kernel - and while I suspect he has personal preferences about what is run on top of that, he's "detached" enough to take the attitude that what people want to

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 09:00:02 -0500 Mitt Green wrote: > What I find ridiculous is this statement: > "Our objectives: [...] Unifying pointless differences between > distributions [...]" That *is* ridiculous. So which is it: Are wall going to have rolling releases, or is every one of us going to

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2015-12-31 Thread Mitt Green
>Still can't understand why so much stuff about systemd seems to allude >to it being started as a personal project by LP & KS. Is that actually >the case, or was it initiated and paid for by RH (as I suspect) ? From what I've read, systemd began as kind of hobby, a side project, and wasn't sponsor

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2015-12-31 Thread John Crisp
On 30/12/15 23:41, Steve Litt wrote: > > I contend that Red Hat, who runs a consultancy and training, gets > richer as Linux users know less. If Linux were simple, they'd get > business only from the stupid. > Yup... > Correlationally, Red Hat pays the salary of the group of > people most respo

Re: [DNG] Ummmm, no

2015-12-30 Thread Emiliano Marini
+1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Check out the final sentence of this post to debian-user: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/12/msg00923.html > > === > "The difference is that in the Open Sourc

[DNG] Ummmm, no

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Check out the final sentence of this post to debian-user: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/12/msg00923.html === "The difference is that in the Open Source community nobody is trying to get rich off of your lack of knowledge