The rise of the new inquisition as a respondent has aptly described is
worrying. A person loses all their merits as a consequence of one
error, controversial opinion or belief. An intellectually brilliant
person like Stallman is more than one opinion or belief. The several
decades they have lived f
This is by far the best analysis of how the first GR vote went down:
Combatting revisionist history
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652
Thank you a lot for that golinux!
> There was never a systemd debate
Yup.
> [...] the discussion becomes fractured and disjointed, in what i
Fri, 26 Mar 2021 22:58:39 +0100 - Riccardo Mottola
:
[...]
> But I make a step back and do a further comment: I want politics out of
> free software. [...] it should concentrate on
> code, technology and access to it.
And this is exactly what FSF is doing today: abandon the original
philosophic
Le 29/03/2021 à 11:14, Alessandro Vesely via Dng a écrit :
> On Fri 26/Mar/2021 22:58:39 +0100 Riccardo Mottola wrote:
>> I want politics out of free software.
>> [...]
>>
>> Remember how many voices there were back then against "evil
>> Microsoft" and IE6?
>>
>> But how many raise their voices tod
On Fri 26/Mar/2021 22:58:39 +0100 Riccardo Mottola wrote:
I want politics out of free software.
[...]
Remember how many voices there were back then against "evil Microsoft" and IE6?
But how many raise their voices today against Chrome?
And IBM before M$...
Two weights, two measures.
If
> On 27 Mar 2021, at 03:55, John Morris wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 15:46 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> I'd suggest nobody sign anything, and nobody respond to this email.
>>
>> If you believe that Stallman was removed, shunned and criticized
>> because of guilt by association, then it's
Le 27/03/2021 à 13:30, Steve Litt a écrit :
> Alexis PM via Dng said on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:23:21 + (UTC)
>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
>>> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>>>
>>> Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
>>> I'd
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:50:07 +0100
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 08:30:14 -0400, Steve wrote in message
> <20210327083014.2b434...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
>
> > Alexis PM via Dng said on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:23:21 + (UTC)
> >
> > > > Hi All,
> > >>
> > >> Debian is engaging in a dis
Fully shareable. Never before has freedom been under attack by the ideology
of politically correct, by revisionism, by cancel culture. I am not an IT
pro, but I fully believe in free software and I understand the danger that
also surrounds this freedom and its supporters. Terrible. Let's not flatte
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 08:30:14 -0400, Steve wrote in message
<20210327083014.2b434...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
> Alexis PM via Dng said on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:23:21 + (UTC)
>
> > > Hi All,
> >>
> >> Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
> >> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_00
On 27/3/21 15:06, d...@d404.nl wrote:
But I would like to keep politics*any politics except init freedom* as
far as possible from Devuan
All life is politics
so I will not in any way connect my signing
to the Devuan project. And I suggest others to do the same.
I replaced gitea.devuan.dev
On 26-03-2021 20:46, Steve Litt wrote:
> Alessandro Vesely via Dng said on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:07:08 +0100
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
>> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>>
>> Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
>> I'd propose t
John Morris said on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 22:55:57 -0500
>On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 15:46 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> I'd suggest nobody sign anything, and nobody respond to this email.
>>
>> If you believe that Stallman was removed, shunned and criticized
>> because of guilt by association, then it's
Alexis PM via Dng said on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:23:21 + (UTC)
> > Hi All,
>>
>> Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
>> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>>
>> Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
>> I'd propose to sign this one instead:
>> https://rms-sup
Steve Litt [26.03.2021 20:46]:
> Before you sign anything or do anything, ask yourself if this is of top
> importance to you. Are you willing to risk your career, your position
> in your community, perhaps the positions of your family, to defend
> Richard Stallman? Unless the answer is an unmitiga
Hi,
On 26/3/21 22:58, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote:
A post, written by Hannah Wolfman-Jones, with a response from
civil-rights expert Nadine Strossen, former president of the ACLU.
https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web
I can only stand with this letter.
Me too. Btw, quoting the
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
>>https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>>
>>Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
>>I'd propose to sign this one instead:
>>https://rms-support-letter.github.io/
>
> I'd suggest nobody sign anything, a
> Hi All,
>
> Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>
> Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
> I'd propose to sign this one instead:
> https://rms-support-letter.github.io/
>
> See also:
> An orthodox analysis entitled Just
On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 15:46 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> I'd suggest nobody sign anything, and nobody respond to this email.
>
> If you believe that Stallman was removed, shunned and criticized
> because of guilt by association, then it's not much of a stretch to
> believe that you will suffer th
dLe 26/03/2021 à 13:07, Alessandro Vesely via Dng a écrit :
> Hi All,
>
> Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
Same thing happens on the GCC mailing list. A developper, Nathan
Sidwell, asks to ban RMS from the steering commitee.
Hi,
On 3/26/21 1:07 PM, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
It is disgusting. On the GNUstep Mailing list after a post by Richard
himself, some people voiced to fork away from GNU,
A post, wr
Hi,
On 3/26/21 6:49 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Next step is trying to ban opponents to systemd ?
I wouldn't joke about that too much :)
Riccardo
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On 2021-03-26 15:00, Steve Litt wrote:
goli...@devuan.org said on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:47:59 -0500
Steve Litt and I were threatened with a ban on the debian-user mail
list for our anti-systemd opinions in 2014! Actually, he may have
gotten hammered. Can't quite remember . . .
golinux
Yeah,
Le 26/03/2021 à 19:01, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit :
> You can bet on that. But social networks are just the beginning.
Social networks, like cell phone, meets a very old need of humans:
the need to keep contact with the tribe. But it facilitates in the same
time the very old trends to spread r
goli...@devuan.org said on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:47:59 -0500
>Steve Litt and I were threatened with a ban on the debian-user mail
>list for our anti-systemd opinions in 2014! Actually, he may have
>gotten hammered. Can't quite remember . . .
>
>golinux
Yeah, I was banned from posting to debian-us
Alessandro Vesely via Dng said on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:07:08 +0100
>Hi All,
>
>Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
>https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>
>Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
>I'd propose to sign this one instead:
>https://rms-support-letter.g
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 19:01:47 +0100
"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote:
> Anno domini 2021 Fri, 26 Mar 18:49:23 +0100
> Didier Kryn scripsit:
> > We are supposedly all here in favour of software freedom and
> > freedom in general, which includes freedom of opinions.
> >
> > It seems we have ent
On 2021-03-26 13:26, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:07:08 +0100
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
Hi All,
Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
Yesterday's mistfits -> today's opressors:
A warm welcome to autismophobia!
I hope we (as humanity) get t
On 2021-03-26 13:01, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Fri, 26 Mar 18:49:23 +0100
Didier Kryn scripsit:
We are supposedly all here in favour of software freedom and
freedom
in general, which includes freedom of opinions.
It seems we have entered a new era of inquisition, wit
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:07:08 +0100
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
Yesterday's mistfits -> today's opressors:
A warm welcome to autismophobia!
I hope we (as humanity) get this resolved, before the tide turns again
to hit th
Anno domini 2021 Fri, 26 Mar 18:49:23 +0100
Didier Kryn scripsit:
> We are supposedly all here in favour of software freedom and freedom
> in general, which includes freedom of opinions.
>
> It seems we have entered a new era of inquisition, with the great
> inquisitor being the social n
We are supposedly all here in favour of software freedom and freedom
in general, which includes freedom of opinions.
It seems we have entered a new era of inquisition, with the great
inquisitor being the social networks. Are we still free to express
personal opinion without the risk of be
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Friday, March 26, 2021 12:26 PM, Antony Stone
wrote:
> On Friday 26 March 2021 at 13:07:08, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
<<--snip-->
Quote from Debian's page
"consider the harm
On Friday 26 March 2021 at 13:07:08, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>
> Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
> I'd propose to sign this one instead:
> https://rms-supp
Hi All,
Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS:
https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters?
I'd propose to sign this one instead:
https://rms-support-letter.github.io/
See also:
An orthodox analysis entitled Justice for Dr. Richard
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