Re: [DNG] modprobe can't find modeule

2022-08-16 Thread karl
Haines Brown: ... > I have /lib/modules/5.18.0-4-amd64/updates/dkms/vboxdrv.ko > > When I run modprobe on it I get this error: ... insmod might be of help. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists

Re: [DNG] Init respawns - was: Be prepared for the fall of systemd

2022-08-04 Thread karl
arching thru /proc, but I always felt a little insecure when doing so. . minimizes the number of running processes . when reading ps output, remove the kernel tasks from the list try e.g. ps ax | egrep -v '\]$' | sort -n . if it listens to a socket you can use netstat -tulp Regard

Re: [DNG] Be prepared for the fall of systemd

2022-08-04 Thread karl
ncept is "Everything's an API" rather than > everything's a file. ... Do you have some pointers to thoose experimental operating systems so I can get a taste of what you are talking about ? Regards, /Karl Hammar _

Re: [DNG] Init respawns - was: Be prepared for the fall of systemd

2022-08-04 Thread karl
Steve Litt: > On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 09:36 +0200, marc wrote: > > Karl Hammar > > > Steve Litt: ... > > > 1) Does Busybox init require the daemon to background itself? > > So I seem no reason why "nohup daemon > /var/log/logfile &" isn't suffic

Re: [DNG] Init respawns - was: Be prepared for the fall of systemd

2022-08-03 Thread karl
box init give you the choice of auto-restart or not for each > > different > > process? If it does, that's something specifically missing in Runit. ... > TL;DR: just install better daemons ;) ACK. But you have to write them also, what others write is usually out of your hand

Re: [DNG] Be prepared for the fall of systemd

2022-08-03 Thread karl
rocess either in /etc/rcS or in its own "getty" line. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Be prepared for the fall of systemd

2022-08-02 Thread karl
ar for shutdown. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] *too (Re: article about devuan)

2022-07-30 Thread karl
ipedia.org/wiki/File:GentooFamilyTree1210.svg Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] About the majoritys choise (Re: article about devuan)

2022-07-30 Thread karl
;t be wrong, shit is good. If you place a million monkeys in front of typewriters, Shakespears complete works will eventually emerge; well, Internet has proved that to be wrong. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mai

Re: [DNG] vdev in chimaera

2022-05-27 Thread karl
n't you try it and tell us. The simplest cause of action is to have the /dev files previously set up. A static /dev is sufficient enless you use md's with superblock version > 0.90, hdmi audio (I guess) and lvm, and I guess if you havn't root access on y

Re: [DNG] vdev in chimaera

2022-05-26 Thread karl
ermission setting, so *dev daemons handle that part. And, if DEVTMPFS isn't used then udev will not start, don't know about eudev. vdev and mdev will probably run fine without devtmpfs. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailin

Re: [DNG] vdev in chimaera

2022-05-26 Thread karl
seful for thoose packages that says they depend on udev and doesn't really. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] vdev in chimaera

2022-05-25 Thread karl
running with a static /dev if you compile your own kernel. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-05-13 Thread karl
libXt but it workes fine in gentoo: http://aspodata.se/computing/librnd_motif/Shell_Size_Constraint/ it also workes fine in debian woody and when rebuilding libXt in previous devuan version, so it might be something shady in current devuan/debian libxt.

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-05-12 Thread karl
when the server is run as root (i.e, with real- uid 0). Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-05-11 Thread karl
fy event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x321, root 0x4d3, subw 0x0, time 243505012, (60,90), root:(364,302), state 0x100, is_hint 0, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x321, root 0x4d3, subw 0x0, time 243505908, (60,90), root:(364,302),

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-05-11 Thread karl
4: (null) code=0 value=0 ^C # Where I pressed the left, middle and lastly right button on my laptop. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-27 Thread karl
ate the mouse packets. The packets then appear somewhere at /dev/input/ which X11 reads. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-25 Thread karl
signals and display the bytes. I will do this over the next few days > and it should be possible to determine the exact protocol. Nice. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-25 Thread karl
ram because usb delivers bytes in a different way, in packets, not one byte at a time. I might make a din-8 (aka sun mouse if.) to rs232 converter within the month. If so I'll report back to you. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@list

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-25 Thread karl
crosoft mode. > > a try? Cannot say much about that, but there is a -sun variant also. You have to try around. /// If you cannot make inputattach to work, you can . go for the old mouse driver and edit xorg.conf . reverse engineer the protocol used and make code to handle that Regards, /

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-25 Thread karl
problem is solved by installing libsdl2-dev. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-24 Thread karl
Fred: ... > The middle button is being seen as the pointer won't move when it is > held down. It would appear the application is being told something > different than when the standard pc mouse is used. It is probably because you were forced to set the wron baudrate. Regards

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-24 Thread karl
quot;, "3-button Mouse Systems mouse", B1200, CS8, SERIO_MSC, 0x00, 0x01, 1, NULL }, So, yes, you found a bug. Add this before the "case 2400" line: case 1200: type[i]->speed = B1200; break; compile and test. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-24 Thread karl
Fred: ... > I also don't like the beetle wings for buttons one and three because > I am often accidentally clicking button three. ... Yes, it is wery annoying when you accidentally press button three. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng maili

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-24 Thread karl
l by yourself, or you use hw that can be auto detected, there is no midpoint, like auto detect gpu and monitor, but use this mouse... Yea, thanks x devs. for ditching us with unusual hw. > and b) installing xserver-xorg-input-kbd and xserver-xorg-input-mouse ... Thoose two drivers are aband

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-24 Thread karl
Fred: ... > If gpm only works in a virtual terminal why do I need to continue > working with it? I don't use a virtual terminal. ... Since it is such a simple test to do, e.g. you don't have to restart the X server to try another protocol. Regar

Re: [DNG] Looking for xorg.conf (was Re: mouse driver question)

2022-04-24 Thread karl
Olaf Meeuwissen: ... > As I mentioned in a previous response, nowadays Xorg gets by without > this file quite well, most of the time. It simply probes your system > and uses what it finds. ... That has never worked for serial mice, sorry. Regards, /Ka

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread karl
evice_to_kernel_input https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxconsole/files/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Serial_Mouse Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread karl
in a console first to assert basic functionality, and then come back. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-22 Thread karl
ked with msc protocol. Soo, what happens when you try with: gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyS1 -t msc where ttyS1 should be changed to the serial port used. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-22 Thread karl
to get gpm to do > anything with the pointer. Have you tried: mouse-test [ device ] Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-22 Thread karl
s that the virtual consoles/terminals works in the text mode which linux comes up in. I.e. with no X11, wayland, openbox or whatever graphical support. And the terminal emulators works in the graphical mode. Some people relate this to the difference between DOS and MS-Windows. Reg

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-22 Thread karl
"SendCoreEvents""true" Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection

Re: [DNG] What is your take on finit?

2022-01-29 Thread karl
should be publicly flogged as a reminder and example to other programmers -- well not really, but you get my point. Most deamons I have run, they just run, they don't need a process monitor except me. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dn

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread karl
see: https://static.usenix.org/publications/login/whysemi.html Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread karl
oose among a number of init systems, but that > the this very choice will have a much greater impact subsequently. To paraphrase usenix: ;init: but that would be too much of an internal joke. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread karl
captain of a ship and you have to navigate the system. Somehow corporate marketing has thoose positive things seems like ads. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Karl Hammar
any's logotype: https://www.if.se/ so, I'd say we cannot use it (it really make me wounder why the authorities allows thoose names). Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread karl
that you as an owner is in control and has the final say. That you are not subjected to random choises by some clique. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Fwd: request for assistance

2022-01-16 Thread karl
ers -> Graphics support", put a "y" in this entry: [ ] Enable additional push buffer debugging There are a lot of choises in the kernel config, so the hard part is to make the right choises. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-15 Thread karl
ater. So get a suffiently new kernel and do as they say. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] HDA AD1882 no card

2022-01-10 Thread karl
Karl: > I have a lenovo desktop computer which I cannot make sound work > on, what am I missing ? > > It's a HDA AD1882 "sound card", but alsamixer says "no card". > > alsa-info, kernel config and lenovo doc (see p.80) in: > http://aspodata.se/tmp/s

Re: [DNG] HDA AD1882 no card

2022-01-10 Thread karl
but is your sound card enabled in the BIOS? (I did have > that once so I always ask now) Yes, very obvious... The only configuration in BIOS I found is ENABLED/DISABLED, and yes, I have set it to ENABLED. Setting it to DISABLE did not help. Nor did disablin

Re: [DNG] HDA AD1882 no card

2022-01-10 Thread karl
ossible "model" parameter > values for the driver. > > Perhaps worth trying those? I have tried all thoose three as model parameter, still "no souncard". Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] HDA AD1882 no card

2022-01-10 Thread karl
]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xd01a irq 26 Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] HDA AD1882 no card

2022-01-09 Thread karl
dev) and boot directly to disk (no initrd). Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] How to make non /usr merged dpgs (was: Re: merged /usr breakage)

2022-01-05 Thread karl
Karl: > The first one gives me an unbootable system > $ ldd /sbin/init | grep /usr > libpcre2-8.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre2-8.so.0 > (0x7f737ba28000) ... So, how do I change the above package to install the lib in /lib//x86_64-linux-gnu instead ?

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-05 Thread karl
at/usr/share/initramfs-tools, in order to include it in the > initrd? Sorry, > but i'm a bit unaware of the thread... No, haven't tried it, don't use initrd, booting directly to disk. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dn

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-04 Thread karl
What makes you believe that ? ld.so.cache is just fine, the problem is that the lib is on a filesystem that isn't available at kernel to init handover time. If I move over the lib to the root fs, then there is no problem other than that apt/dpkg et al. don't

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-04 Thread karl
n several partitions. ... My systems, my rules. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] busybox init

2022-01-04 Thread karl
t you don't want that either. Why don't you start a process monitor, either at the end of the rcS script or from the inittab. So, in effect let init handle /etc/rcS.d/S* and the gettys, and the process monitor /etc/rc2.d/S*. Regards, /Karl Hammar _

Re: [DNG] busybox init

2022-01-04 Thread karl
Karl: > I have used busybox init for a while. It differs from sysvinit > by not having runlevels, except perhaps on and off. ... > One could possible (not tested) mimic sysvinit bootup by having > for i in /etc/rc2.d/S*; do $i start; done > in the rcS file or if you prefer you ca

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-04 Thread karl
ed the source for comment around that dependency > change. Apart from the strange numbering (which is upstreams fault), the dependancy migration seems sane. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] busybox init

2022-01-04 Thread karl
me, I'm on the list. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-04 Thread karl
and /sbin, there is no need to create a new one. > and a bb.d subdirectory with scripts to be performed in > order. We already have one, /etc/rcS.d, which serves booting. /// If you seriously want new directories for booting, somewhere in /boot is more appropr

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-03 Thread karl
at can I do to help with that ? > https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/dpkg/dpkg-fsys-usrunmess.8.de.html > worked for me. No guarantees from my side. $ dpkg-fsys-usrunmess -n D: checking symlink? /bin ... System is fine, no aliased directories found, congrats! Well,

Re: [DNG] Printer trouble again. (slight progress)

2022-01-03 Thread karl
er a few years ago, it came with CUPS and just worked. Well, that is fine, but when it don't work, it is a black box. /// Regarding driverless printing, that is what I always had it with postscript. PCL could probably work also, but there is no PCL previewer what I know of. Sen

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-03 Thread karl
Karl: > The first one gives me an unbootable system > $ ldd /sbin/init | grep /usr > libpcre2-8.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre2-8.so.0 > (0x7f737ba28000) > > fortunately /bin/bash didn't depend on /usr so I could boot with > init=/bin/bas

Re: [DNG] busybox init

2022-01-03 Thread karl
t; init > > a shell > > reboot, shutdown > > swapon/swapoff > > mount, umount > > (start-stop-daemon) > > (getty, login) >     AFAIR you would also need cttyhack, setsid and a few others I've > forgotten if you want to be able to debug it. ... ctty

Re: [DNG] Printer trouble again. (slight progress)

2022-01-03 Thread karl
on the front panel, run plain old lpr and be done with it. And tell your programs to always output postscript. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] busybox init

2022-01-03 Thread karl
help) ? Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-03 Thread karl
library ii mount2.36.1-8+devuan1 amd64tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems Soo, what can I do to help with that ? Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.or

Re: [DNG] Automating the distro?

2021-12-08 Thread karl
raditional desktop computers with ahci sata if. . udev-less systems just don't know the devuan process. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Embedded devuan (was Re: Devuan with usr merge?)

2021-11-16 Thread karl
35X That hw is similar to the BeagleBoneBlack mentioned by Antoine, so if you start off the BBB, this one could be the next in your learning curve. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread karl
s/her own systems. Just because debian wants to go that route doesn't mean it has to be engraved as a policy for devuan. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] kernels (was Re: Devuan with usr merge?)

2021-11-13 Thread karl
. Depends on what you want. > Every time the kernel updates, No, you don't have to follow the dists update schedule, you don't need to use the dist kernel at all. It should read, every time _you_ want to update the kernel. > you need to get the new kernel's source, rec

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-13 Thread karl
beef I have: Why don't they build Ext4 and > maybe a couple other mainstream filesystems into the kernel, so if I > want, I can boot without initramfs? What would it cost? ... I use it all the time. Just do it yourself, it just cost you a little time, or do you volunteer to maint

Re: [DNG] What is libc5-i686 | lib32gcc1 (proliant package dependencies)

2021-10-27 Thread karl
For libc5, run "man libc" and look under the heading "Linux libc". The latest libc5 package is from 2003 in debian-archive, from what I can see: debian-archive/debian/pool/main/libc/libc/libc5_5.4.46-15_i386.deb That is within Debian 3.0, Woody, timeline. R

Re: [DNG] Bluetooth headset

2021-06-30 Thread karl
title/Bluetooth#Pairing Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-20 Thread karl
Rick Moen: ... > https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate ... Thanks for the link. /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-19 Thread karl
to the internet, ntpd might not be what you need. You might then be better served by chrony or something else. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] PartialSolve Re: Chimaera; Lost sound

2021-05-21 Thread karl
Arnt Karlssen: ... > ..try apulse $them, at least the firefox people said they > "would only support PulseAudio" a while back. firefox 78.9.0esr works with jack for me. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@list

Re: [DNG] Strange browser home

2021-05-19 Thread karl
perhaps. > It's clearly more efficient if I want to look at files on the world-wide > web. > > But not what I want if I want to examine files on the server. Don't know, firfox --no-remote might help. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___

Re: [DNG] [3.0] Time in AM/PM format ??

2021-03-31 Thread karl
nt on to I think 29:00, depending on if you started your job after or before midnight i.e. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [3.0] Time in AM/PM format ??

2021-03-30 Thread karl
ions or when we want to be more specific. /// Upstream date (coreutils) has got a debug flag that might be useful: $ LC_TIME=sv_SE ./date --debug ./date: output format: ?%a %e %b %Y %H:%M:%S %Z? tis 30 mar 2021 18:39:34 UTC $ LC_TIME=en_US ./date --debug ./date: output format: ?%a %d %b %Y %r %Z? T

[DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-05 Thread karl
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BigBlueButton Anyone knows which one to choose for a smallish group (< 20 persons) ? Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Linux's sucky cut and paste: was: problematic mouse driver?

2020-11-21 Thread karl
s on whatever you expected in 1998, my guess is that you didn't like the middle click thing, while others like it. As it stands today, we have two somewhat colliding ways to do cut'n'paste in linux+X. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Linux's sucky cut and paste

2020-11-19 Thread karl
Here are a few links about cut'n'paste: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut,_copy,_and_paste https://everything2.com/title/Cut+and+Paste+in+X https://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@list

Re: [DNG] problematic mouse driver?

2020-11-17 Thread karl
button for mice which only have two physical buttons. The third button is emulated by pressing both buttons simultaneously. Default: on, until a press of a physical button 3 is detected. Property: "Mouse Middle Butt

Re: [DNG] Ancient releases

2020-11-15 Thread karl
t; > lying round somewhere. > > https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive And the timeline is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history A decade ago would be lenny or squeeze. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@l

Re: [DNG] Ancient releases

2020-11-15 Thread karl
://www.debian.org/distrib/archive Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread karl
-follow option is in effect, unless the symbolic link is broken. If you want to search for symbolic links when -L is in effect, use -xtype. s socket $ See also the discussion about 'The file type and mode'

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-23 Thread karl
Hendrik: > There are files and directories. > > Is there an establiched word in the Linux/Unix xommunity > for something which might be a file or a directory? One could possible use "file system node", perhaps shortened to fsnode.

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread karl
e/man/man8/sg_map.8.gz sg3-utils: /usr/share/man/man8/sg_map26.8.gz votca-csg: /usr/bin/csg_map votca-csg: /usr/share/man/man1/csg_map.1.gz To get the serial number of a disk, do # sg_inq /dev/sda Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@l

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-18 Thread karl
ngineered software on my server just because someone > couldn't bother looking at 'dmesg | tail' before running dd against an > SD card. ... There is more than one way to do it: sg_map -x -i Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing l

Re: [DNG] Installer deficiency (was: netbooting Dev1)

2020-01-09 Thread karl
lps you install on a large number of computers Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] netbooting Dev1

2020-01-09 Thread karl
ailable on a tftp server. The kernel has to be specially prepared with mknbi. The kernel then mounts a nfs fs as root. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] netbooting Dev1

2020-01-09 Thread karl
all in the past. What do you need help with ? Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Upgrade report

2020-01-04 Thread karl
1:amd64 libx32itm1:amd64 libx32quadmath0:amd64 libx32stdc++6:amd64 libx32ubsan0:amd64 // reboot without problems starting x worked fine unfortunately emacs have stopped honouring the geometry option Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-09 Thread karl
Hendrik: ... > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > /dev/sdb1 20483481532768 16M unknown > /dev/sdb2 34816 31116254 31081439 14.8G unknown # file -s /dev/sdb1 # file -s /dev/sdb2 Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Help to install LiLo to a GPT HDD.

2019-08-26 Thread karl
lly partition etc. the disks from some rescue media or in another box and then copies some pre-prepared image of a system to disk, chroot to target system and set up booting. That way I can get rid of udev which I don't need. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___

Re: [DNG] logging uses of machine-id

2019-03-14 Thread karl
system then calls the device_inserted() callback usually available during my awake hours and is denied when when I sleep. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] sans dbus/udev (was Re: new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id)

2019-03-11 Thread karl
s, say more than 5. If you just have one or two, you don't need that. Also that could be generated by a script which you run manually when needed. 3) can't you do ifrename from rc.local So unless you change things you don't need udev. Unfortunatel

[DNG] sans dbus/udev (was Re: new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id)

2019-03-10 Thread karl
al. I also have a few ideas > to replace udev by a script, provided devtmpfs is enabled in the kernel. Since nowadays the kernel can provide devtmpfs, what is the role of udev et al apart from handling usb devices ? Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-08 Thread karl
" that you are using e.g. Devuan, and that you are concerned about it for some reason. Depending about how many who is doing so, you might be singled out. If it is for tracking, best is to not to have the infrastructure for this at all, i.e. bug programs tha

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-08 Thread karl
ironments, in particular on the network. Why would a network centric program need this unless it wants to expose it ? > but first things first: do we want /etc/machine-id? and how? In my view it falls in the completely unnessesary or the potentially dangerous group. I don't want it.

Re: [DNG] gpt boot on bios machine

2019-03-02 Thread karl
hendrik: > Currently booting from a 750G BIOS-partitioned disk. > Trying to enable booting from the 4.7T drive, which is GPT partitioned. > > With grub-install I get errors: > > april:/farhome/hendrik# grub-install /dev/sda > Installing for i386-pc platform. > grub-install: warning: this GPT part

Re: [DNG] Creating directory in /var/run on bootup

2019-02-05 Thread karl
Tom: ... > What is the recommended alternative way to create a sub-directory of > /var/run on bootup for non-daemon software? Don't know about "recommended", but you can . prepend your cron script like (or have a wrapper): if [ ! -d / ]; then mkdir -p /var/run/barman; fi . in the crontab

Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-23 Thread karl
Didier: ... >   2) there isn't a function in the C library which permits to change > the name of a file (or open it), except by giving its whole pathname. > Eg. it's not possible to open it from its directory entry. ... man openat man renameat Re

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