;s up to YOU, !
Discussion here and on dev1galaxy.org and #devuan-wiki.
Now . . . . just where are those Wiki Whisperers . . . :D
For the love of Devuan . . . just DO IT!
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ms to be no recourse to resolve it. A bit heavy handed but not
unexpected from a corporate behemoth like ATT.
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nd contributing something useful towards
our
next release, Daedalus . . .
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Your post reminded me I haven't donated for awhile, so I just donated
a small amount
off money to Devuan. My skills include neither packaging, C++ nor
aesthetics, so the
best I can do to help further Devuan is to
ut it, get even
by joining the Devuan team and contributing something useful towards our
next release, Daedalus . . .
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Ciao,
Tito
The appropriate place for that interaction is on dev1galaxy at:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=8
I don't get the fascination with the mediocre . . . When I originally
posted links to the Linux Pro Mag articles last month [1] there was
almost no response.
golinu
user reviews not ratings ie the
bean counter). That speaks for itself. Run silent, run deep . . .
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een speculating, too. But I think my provider
is ok. They call themselves "political provider" and it's a paid
service. However, contacting them may be the way to go.
Kind regards, Stefan
Yes, Dyne email is currently messed up but not a peep out of Dyne.
Trying to sort wh
old you so"!
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Greetings!
Shortly after Debian was forked in early 2015, Linux Pro Magazine[1]
published
an article about Devuan titled "Shiny New Fork"[2]. The first paragraph
always
makes me smile:
"The world is left to wonder if the recent news of a Debian fork is an
important
event or a minor historica
live/
and
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/
devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso and
devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_i386_desktop.iso
do?
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Perhaps that's the problem?
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choice made on Debian side or is PHP now really depending on
systemd?
This would be a great problem to me (and I suspect many, maybe).
PHP is not relevant to my world but perhaps related to this thread?
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3331
golinux
They are looking for the
slightest reason to silence any opposition to the master plan that has
been set in motion so this is no surprise. Unless Norbert P. is living
under a rock, he is aware of Devuan and is free to join us. Or perhaps
he has escaped to the sanity of a deserted island . .
y of Daedalus (and his son Icarus) evoke in your
mind? I think of searing Mediterranean sun and intensely blue water.
Play with it and see what pops up.
Any questions. Just ask. :)
Enjoy the journey!
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all. Keep your fingers
crossed. :)
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devuan.org/gitlab-issues/devuan.devuan-project.7.html
Then finishing here. It took about 2 months to get it right:
https://devuan.org/gitlab-issues/devuan.devuan-project.20.html
Thanks to bgstack15 for rescuing that history. Ah, the memories . . .
those were heady days!!
evaluate.
Is everyone really that bored and clueless?
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imaera desktop
and let us have a look.
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On 2022-01-18 20:49, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
Will need to be discussed at our weekly dev meet.
golinux
Or thi
On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png
Will need to be discussed at our weekly dev meet.
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Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . "
I don't like promising - - - especially too much but I agree
even a hint of uncertainty is not a great idea.
Regards
H . . . I actually like that
s://www.devuan.org/os/announce/
Eroding history is the first step down a slippery slope to the end of
freedom.
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pieces that need to be coordinated
are described in this HOW-TO:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/theming-devuan.md
I am happy to mentor/collaborate as needed.
So who would like to help make the Daedalus desktop beautiful?
golinux
ocene
era. That would be a much more honest reference point . . .
golinux
PS. Credit to Eben Moglen who saw this coming 10 years ago. We have
arrived . . .
https://archive.org/details/EbenMoglen-WhyFreedomOfThoughtRequiresFreeMediaAndWhyFreeMedia
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t of folks hanging around Devuan who have ideas about what
Devuan should/could do and way too few to actually do any work. It is
really, REALLY annoying . . .
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iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1408.1/02496.html
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Quod rectum erat, id solum bonum hominibus exstimabat Socrates.
Tito
Tito ...
None of the translations I found made any sense. Please enlighten me/us.
Thanks,
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rant about systemd from 2014. My all
time fav!
Open letter to the Linux World
From: Christopher Barry
Date: Tue Aug 12 2014 - 15:35:49 EST
http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1408.1/02496.html
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marketing to consumers of their latest "cure" for a newly discovered
"disease"?
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ocsd packages:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=nocsd*&x=submit
and also with one from Debian that rolls back this "improvement" after
user protest. Sorry, can't remember the name.
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good but the slides are
informative:
Demystifying init – by Skarnet
https://youtu.be/I7qE43KK5bY?t=7622
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grr . . .
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based on your work? If so,
it is still alive and well!
Take care,
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ut a sim card or account. I only have
it so I am able to call 911 emergency services when I'm away from home.
As to cell phones that are so ubiquitous . . . think cattle > abattoir .
. .
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networking advice likely would too
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when several of us
had an impromptu meet to work on updating the website for Chimaera and
we were just looking not actually committing anything. Ralph should be
able to figure it out.
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still possible?)
D-Bus free software (quite possibly out of date)
Minimal xorg install
Minimal XFCE install
Thanks,
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quite possibly out of date)
Minimal xorg install
Minimal XFCE install
Anything no longer useful/relevant will be removed.
Thanks for your feedback!
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lt in Xfce It is brain-dead simple and reliable.
Many users are unhappy with the remaining options. I hope that it can be
resurrected.
golinux
On 2021-09-18 16:58, Steve Litt wrote:
I thought some members of the Devuan community made something superior
to wicd *and* that silly dbus enthusiast ne
has provided a "classic" networking "how-to" that
will be included in the www documentation. It is already available on
the netinstall isos:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso/src/branch/wip/docs/docs/docs/network-configuration.html
golinux
On 2021-09-18 10:12, Ludo
Request to the Devuan community . . .
As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some feedback
on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is applicable
to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be carried forward
for use in Chimaera.
These documents w
the best method of pristine
preservation.
golinux
On 2021-09-03 03:46, al3xu5 wrote:
Fri, 3 Sep 2021 10:33:31 +0200 - al3xu5 :
[...]
But nothing prevents us from using a different verbatim license,
perhaps
more articulated and specific ...
Maybe even a specially created verbatim lice
stend citadel come crumbling down and the light
of init diversity shine into the darkness!
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On 2021-07-20 15:52, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:08:48PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Just in case sombody missed it:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/nasty-linux-systemd-security-bug-revealed/
"Systemd, the Linux system and service manager that has largely
replaced
; in
2021.
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king
If you're interested, you can read the reviews on which that ranking was
based at:
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=ratings&distro=devuan
We must be doing something right!! :D
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n oh so many ways?
Christopher Barry's "Open letter to the Linux World"[1] concludes with
this:
OneLinux == zero-choice
[1] http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1408.1/02496.html
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Please let this useless thread die and get back to discussions about
free software and making Devuan the best alternative without systemd
lock-in. Thanks.
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On 2021-05-02 06:08, terryc wrote:
Unfortunately there are systemd libraries installed by Devuan-beowulf
desktop installation DVD.
[snip]
And they are harmless.
Why are systemd files present in Devuan?
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925
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s to try.
Hope it will not be mangled to much.
Ciao,
Tito
Hi,
you can find the migration v1.8 script plus history
in the new shiny git repo:
https://git.devuan.org/farmatito/migration
Testers needed.
Enjoy.
Ciao,
Tito
p.s.: is there a way to edit committed commit messages?
WOW, tito . . .
there wasn't time to code the flinging up of a query for a [Y/n]
response in real time,but what on earth is the current work-around?
I'm quite content to try a dist upgrade, to 3.1.1 or whatever is the
state of the art, if thatcan safely be done with this brittle 3.0.0
v
Location is: Index » ARM Builds » Installer images for armel, armhf and
ppc64 need testing
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3351
There is a link to that thread on the Download page of the website.
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in time. Humans may be able to manipulate the external world but have no
understanding of the internal forces that drive them to, more often than
not, make choices that bring nothing but suffering and destruction to
themselves and others of our species.
golinux
On 2021-03-31 11:57, Tony Thed
On 2021-03-26 15:00, Steve Litt wrote:
goli...@devuan.org said on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:47:59 -0500
Steve Litt and I were threatened with a ban on the debian-user mail
list for our anti-systemd opinions in 2014! Actually, he may have
gotten hammered. Can't quite remember . . .
golinux
calates when
political systems enter their EOL phase (and they all get there). It
doesn't help that we keep breeding like cockroaches. Numbers stress the
system. We are setting ourselves up for a mass extinction event. Can't
happen to soon for me.
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Nik
Steve Litt and I were threatened with a ban on the debian-user mail list
for our anti-systemd opinions in 2014! Actually, he may have gotten
hammered. Can't quite remember . . .
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address. So I will forward this email
to the mail server folks and hopefully they can straighten it out.
Nothing good ever comes from a captcha imo.
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his post from moderation. :)
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n't that be a great way for MS to capture
a voice recognition database and link it to a specific IP? Would that
even be possible?
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On 2021-03-05 04:23, g4sra via Dng wrote:
Can anyone recommend a browser (other than Chrome) that they know
works with Jitsi-meet ?
I use vivaldi for jitsi (but nothing else). It just works.
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Not quite the same focus but also about Devuan adoption, this was posted
in a thread at https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27695#p27695 :
https://all-things-linux.blogspot.com/2021/02/introducing-linux-mint-devuan-edition.html
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Thank you Bruce. You noticed how I sidestepped answering that question.
Sadly, the finer points of licensing has never sunk in despite the
informative interactions we've had with you over the years . . .
golinux
On 2021-01-27 14:43, Bruce Perens wrote:
CC ND and CC BY NC ND would have
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=8 and elsewhere. Choose
whichever license that suits you. In the meantime, how about a
show-and-tell? :D
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PLEASE stop now. Please STOP now. Please stop NOW!
On 2021-01-06 17:18, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote:
I don't really think this is the forum to discuss such things. In my
opinion, politics don't belong here. I can assure you none of you want
to
hear my politics.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 5:26
ting.
Which was probably correct "As of this writing" but is no longer
correct and potentially confusing.
-- hendrik
Thanks for catching that, Hendrik! All updated now.
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e lag between Debian stable and the
corresponding Devuan stable release is why we recommend using the
release name rather that the suite name in /etc/apt/sources.list
Please see https://www.devuan.org/os/releases for more information.
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d on the Beowulf 3.1 point release.
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archived. That won't be happening anytime soon afaik. We do have
a beowulf point release in the works.
golinux
I have a lot of systems running ascii and no plan to upgrade them yet.
I
don't want to upgrade when ascii is archived but before. Do you think 6
more months of ascii support
se in the works.
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Use deb.devuan.org or choose one from
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt
Package information can be found at https://www.devuan.org/os/packages
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://archive.devuan.org/merged/ jessie but . . . atm rrq is messing
with that server so it will be out of commission for a while. I just
tried and it's dead, Jim . . .
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a specific mirror:
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt
Don't ask me why . . .
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would have
identical content.
In addition, the Release Notes as well as installation instructions are
included on the isos using the Debian installer. I know because I
picked the short straw to prepare that documentation.
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is info anymore.
What do I have to do to get back in contact with the sound mixer?
Thanks in advance
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There is a reason the Devuan team takes the time to write Release Notes.
I only wish that more users would take the time to read them:
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/Release_not
On 2020-10-29 15:24, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2020 um 20:31 Uhr
Von: "Antony Stone"
An: dng@lists.dyne.org
Betreff: Re: [DNG] devuan ?
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> Err:1 http://deb.devuan.
various flavors of full-fledged DEs.
antiX has a great Debian-testing distro using runit with jwm, icewm,
or fluxbox.
FYI . . . the person who maintains antix is on the dev1galaxy forum
almost every day so there is already some cross-pollination happening.
golinux
On 2020-09-15 14:02, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote:
10 Best Debian-Based Linux Distributions
https://www.tecmint.com/debian-based-linux-distributions/
Promoting Beowulf with a screenshot of the Jessie desktop. Get it
together tecmint . . .
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mare" imagines.
https://libre.video/videos/watch/b576019d-8957-4efb-8571-6a14e0889136
If Debian doesn't wake up and reverse course what will become of Devuan?
The entire Linux ecosystem as we have known it could become a nostalgic
footnote in the history of the digital age.
It's a good time to be old . . .
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Beyond Debian/Devuan, this is a challenge for the future of
community-provided free software.
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rs running etc. had changed. So it looks like the drive is working
normally again.
Keeping track of all this is taking way to much brainspace . . .
Again, thanks to all.
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's enabled, and your smartctl output shows that
automatic self tests are enabled on your drive. All the above says is
that the drive isn't running automatic self tests right now, so nothing
to
worry about here.
Got it. Your comments have been helpful.
On 2020-09-04 22:26, Simon Walter wrote:
On 9/5/20 11:19 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2020-09-04 20:46, Simon Walter wrote:
On 9/5/20 1:34 AM, Andreas Messer wrote:
Hi golinux,
On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 01:50:07AM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2020-09-01 00:07, goli...@devuan.org
lode. LOL!
Delete the contents all you want, but keep the lost and found
directory.
-- hendrik
Understood. I realize that directory is necessary and would only delete
the contents. But a reminder is always good and might be useful to
someone else. :)
On 2020-09-04 20:46, Simon Walter wrote:
On 9/5/20 1:34 AM, Andreas Messer wrote:
Hi golinux,
On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 01:50:07AM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2020-09-01 00:07, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
[...]
I have no idea how reliable the repaired drive is after this radical
surgery
ead-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute
delay.
Some comments on exactly what that means would be appreciated. Do I need
to do something else? Should I now have more confidence in this drive?
Thanks again.
golinux
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On 2020-09-04 11:34, Andreas Messer wrote:
Hi golinux,
On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 01:50:07AM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2020-09-01 00:07, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
[...]
I have no idea how reliable the repaired drive is after this radical
surgery. Can it be written to or files deleted
On 2020-09-04 05:38, Simon Walter wrote:
On 9/4/20 3:50 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
Well . . . I decided to run an fsck on the misbehaving harddrive. It
started off by identifying the errors and rewriting them and then went
through Free block counts, Inode bitmap differences and Free inodes
asure 6 times and cut once! So it's
going to take me a while to sort through all the suggestions and
decide how to proceed. I'll post when I have figured that out and the
stars align. Stay tuned . . .
golinux
Well . . . I decided to run an fsck on the misbehaving harddrive. It
ng to take me a while to sort through all the suggestions and decide
how to proceed. I'll post when I have figured that out and the stars
align. Stay tuned . . .
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nd as you suggested:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx
I think this can be marked as "solved" for now. Will post an update in
a week or so.
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has been lost so no need to copy files.
I'm guessing that this failure is beyond fsck . . .
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shipping is really slow these days . . .
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f the tutorials online.
Thanks Bruce . . .
Unfortunately, I don't have spare 1 TB drives laying around. Since that
drive is an exact copy of another still working drive, no critical data
has been lost so no need to copy files.
I'm guessing that this failure is beyond fsck
On 2020-08-29 16:52, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
On 8/30/20 12:35 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
advice is most welcome.
Thanks, Dimitris . . .
maybe a "long shot" , but did you try another cable/adapter/case for
that disk?
Yes. Tested different usb and adapter. Have ordered a dock which wi
he wrong direction. I am rather hardware-challenged.
:D
Thanks for slogging through this. Your advice is most welcome.
golinux
PS. There is no critical data on this disk because I always keep
multiple backups. But it would be nice to have that drive functioning in
some capacity.
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would probably stay in wishlist for ever there, eg. #964139.
thx,
d.
Sure, send reports to Debian - with a patch if possible - so they are
aware that their hostile decisions are not appreciated. In time they
might even decide to be more cooperative.
golinux
is possible but do so at your own risk. In any case, you get
to keep all the pieces
https://beta.devuan.org/os/releases
https://beta.devuan.org/os/packages
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
golinux
Sorry about those URLs - working on the site atm. This is better . . .
https://devuan
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