[DNG] About shims and systemd in devuan

2015-08-16 Thread Nextime
thout dbus, or not compatible with systemd: we want to have the few good funcionality that are present in systemd, but we want them better implemented. -- nextime ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] How real is this?

2015-08-08 Thread Nextime
xing bugs. >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Yes, it is. I personally use it in production right now on all my machines. -- nextime ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Mission Creap

2015-08-08 Thread Nextime
ng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng All those changes will not slowdown release as they will enter in devuan, first in ceres and then in ascii, only after jessie release. -- nextime ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Mission Creap

2015-08-08 Thread Nextime
t;Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Actually devuan install sysvinit by default in pid 1… anyway systemd, not in pid 1, still present cause of some dependencies not yet updated in devuan. Starting from beta 1 systemd will

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-19 Thread Nextime
On July 19, 2015 7:42:52 PM CEST, Go Linux wrote: >On Sun, 7/19/15, Nextime wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Sunday, July 19, 2015, 12:23 PM > > [cut] > >> The issue, for me, is that after install i have to r

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-19 Thread Nextime
all i have to remove nano,or at least change the $EDITOR env var. I don't like to find nano when i do a crontab -e or a visudo. Anyway, the solution is already established, nothing will change in jessie, for ascii a menu will permit to choose the default editor, vim-tiny will be installed i

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-19 Thread Nextime
https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng All changes are evaluated only if they will make devuan equally or more posix/unix compliant, not less. -- nextime ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Please stop vain discussion

2015-05-06 Thread Nextime
mailman/listinfo/dng The official position is: we will support anything that can be packaged without hijacking the whole system to be installed. Actually systemd doesn't match this requirement, so, devuan will not support it as long it doesn't radically change. Anyway we will not intentionally obstacle anyone that eventually want to use it outside officia devuan release. -- nextime ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] still failing to install Devuan through debootstrap

2015-05-02 Thread Nextime
___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Sorry for top posting, i'm from smartphone. The right repo to be used is packages.devuan.org/merged to have a fu

Re: [Dng] nameservers

2015-03-30 Thread Nextime
l systemd fanatics that stop us having choiced and force us to fork. -- nextime ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Puppy Linux, AntiX - was Re: Puppy Linux-related thoughts

2015-03-25 Thread Nextime
On March 25, 2015 1:20:53 PM WET, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > >What are the security problems with IRC? I use it to chat in ASCII and > >make a log. Evidently it has other, more dangerous capabilities I'm >not aware of. The capabilities called client bugs, for

Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet

2015-03-21 Thread Nextime
Jaromil, Dyne.org Free Software Foundry (est. 2000) >We are free to share code and we code to share freedom >Web: https://j.dyne.org Contact: https://j.dyne.org/c.vcf >GPG: 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 >Confidential communications: https://keybase.io/jaromil > > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Standing ovation jaro! -- nextime ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

2015-03-18 Thread Nextime
> >_______ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Do NOT use apt.devuan.org, the devuan packages are on packages.devuan.org -- nextime ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] The countdown

2015-01-24 Thread Nextime
.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> > > > > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng I