On March 21, 2015 3:34:28 PM WET, Jaromil <jaro...@dyne.org> wrote: > >re all, > >perhaps interesting to perceive the atmosphere, no trolling intended >and please >consider we shall not fight, rather seek undersanding and claim respect >and the >right to have different opinions than "the majority". > >At Libreplanet (the GNU/FSF conference) today someone (who?? thanks for >that!) >asked RMS about what he thinks of systemd. Few of us can afford to be >there >however from a twit by FSF member John Sullivan I apprehend the Q&A: > >@johns_FSF >"RMS, do you have an opinion about systemd?" "No. I know it's free >software, so you can make your own opinion about it." #lp2015 > >follows up Stefano Zacchiroli (former Debian leader and present board >member of OSI): > >@zacchiro >achievement unlocked: #systemd troll brilliantly averted by rms during >#libreplanet keynote > >a statement by a renown public speaker that clearly leads the public >perception >of someone making a question to RMS about systemd as being >automatically a >troll, just for the fact such a question is being asked. > >I've replied myself, via the @DevuanOrg twit account: > >is asking a question about #systemd now considered trolling? wow. >#minculpop > >also later asking John: > >did someone explained how #Hurd is affected? >https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.html … ...and >uclibc etc. >FWIW (no trolling intended) > >and I'm serious: I'd like to hear the *opinion* (which we are all free >to have) >of the GNU leaders on these matters, considering the aforementioned >implications, which I'm not sure RMS has acknowledged. > >I understand perfectly RMS answer above which is rather sane: he is >separating >the power of his role in that particular moment (setting the "ethical >bar" on >free software for people listening) with the fact we can all have >opinions. >This is something a good leader should do, rather than bully somoene >for making >an uncomfortable question.... > >What I want to make here is an exortation to everyone reading: if we >really >think something needs to be done about systemd, please do your best in >putting >forward your opinion, avoiding to impose it or to aggressively wave it >in front >of everyone. If bullied please stand firmly by the right you have to >have a >different opinion and to debate it in the public. I think we need to >state this >because what Stefano and others are doing in this occasion is bullying >people >with different opinions, labeling them as trolls (and therefore enemies >of the >community) and ultimately denying there can even be a debate about >systemd, >spreading fear in anyone willing to debate it. > >I think this is totally unacceptable for a free society, that's why I >label it >as MinCulPop attitude, which ultimately was the fascist authority which >established what can be debated, something Italians remember very well: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Popular_Culture > >ciao > > >-- >Jaromil, Dyne.org Free Software Foundry (est. 2000) >We are free to share code and we code to share freedom >Web: https://j.dyne.org Contact: https://j.dyne.org/c.vcf >GPG: 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 >Confidential communications: https://keybase.io/jaromil > > >_______________________________________________ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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