Re: [DNG] Welcome to wiki.devuan.org!

On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 08:41:22PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Greetings all! > > Did that get your attention? Good . . . :D > > The wiki has been languishing in the doldrums for some time in a rather > unusable state but it could become a reality if some Wiki Whisperers would > step up to

Re: [DNG] meta: list

On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 11:30:43AM +1000, onefang wrote: > > The problem with PTRs is that I run several domains from the one IP > address, and PTR can only point to one of those. It costs money to get > more IPs, my pension is barely coping with the recent cost of living > increases. If IP's ar

Re: [DNG] Another problem you won't have without Systemd (or separate oomd)

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 05:31:58PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 20/08/2022 à 10:20, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > oomd may make sense in certain cloud based workloads, maybe, just maybe. > > However… on a desktop? You are frigging kidding me, aren't you? > >     Well, it can happen to anybody

Re: [DNG] Wifi dropping ramdomly

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 06:26:20AM -0500, Jim Murphy via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > My wifi connection drops randomly. It can sometimes run for days. > Other times it may drop within hours of a reboot. There seems to be > no pattern to when. This is likely not your problem, but I've found that wifi shu

[DNG] connman missing from system menu

connman is missing from the system menu of my 32-bit laptop running chimaera. I have installed: connman-gtkverion 1.1.1+git20180626.b72c6ab-2 connmanversion 1.36-2.2 connman-uiversion 0-20150623-1 The menu item is absent from the system menus in lxqt, and in xfce. What am I

Re: [DNG] Be prepared for the fall of systemd

On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 05:19:18PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 04/08/2022 à 00:36, Bruce Perens via Dng a écrit : > > The fundamental OS concept is "Everything's an API" rather than > > everything's a file. > > APIs rather than libraries and linking. > >  etc... > >     It seems to me that "ev

Re: [DNG] Init respawns - was: Be prepared for the fall of systemd

On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 04:06:18AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: ... > > When I write Free Software, I'm one of those "meh, good enough" guys, > although I'd > phrase it "Awww Riiight, good enough!". The reason is that perfectionists > never > finish. Might this be why we're using linux instead of H

Re: [DNG] decode usenet messages -- solved

On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 07:41:43AM +0200, gy...@ergoarte.ch wrote: > > On Sun, May 08, 2022 at 06:57:51PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > What I want now, however, is to see the contents of usenet messages > > that have already been downloaded -- years ago. In othe

Re: [DNG] Unable to access pool in repository

On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 11:11:04PM +1000, onefang wrote: > On 2022-07-16 08:21:13, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I tried installing sharutils using aptitude, and was unable to. > > aptitude told me: > > Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org' > >

[DNG] Unable to access pool in repository

I tried installing sharutils using aptitude, and was unable to. aptitude told me: Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org' and later: E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/sharutils/sharutils_4.15.2 -5_amd64.deb: Temporary failure resolving 'd

Re: [DNG] moving to a new system

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 09:05:39AM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. > > (moving from debian testing to devuan testing (daedalus) > the old system is under 5.17.xx and the new one is on 5.18 > if that makes for differences) > > (I've

Re: [DNG] install on a raid 1 array

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 05:03:23PM +0100, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2022-06-22 at 16:26 -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 3:03 PM Simon wrote: > > > > > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > I have not ever installed like this so first the c

Re: [DNG] install on a raid 1 array

On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 09:26:21AM +1000, onefang wrote: > On 2022-06-01 19:07:24, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 05:16:05PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:57 PM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > > > &

Re: [DNG] install on a raid 1 array

On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 05:16:05PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:57 PM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 16:34:21 -0500 > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > When the parts get here I'm going to be installing Devuan testing on > >

[DNG] decode usenet messages

I currently use pan to read usenet. It works fine. Presumably it, and almost every decent newsreader, has components that * obtain a message from usenet * display it in various ways, including handling text, embedded images, and so forth. * other things too What I want now, however, is to see t

Re: [DNG] trouble with rdiff-backup

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 08:00:21PM +0200, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:17:38 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > OSError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system > > > > Is anyone else having problems like these? Is rdiff-backup busted? > > Or

Re: [DNG] trouble with rdiff-backup

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 12:11:37PM -0500, Hector Gonzalez Jaime via Dng wrote: > > On 4/24/22 12:17, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Suddenly it cannot write on a file system. Presumably the backup drive? > > The one it has already filled with 215831712 iK blocks and has aboth

[DNG] trouble with rdiff-backup

I've experienced trouble using rdiff-backup when backing up a file tree onto a new backup drive. The backup drive (initially something like vfat) was reformatted by creating an ext4 file system on its first and only partition. Subsequently asking rdiff-backup to back up /farhome/hendrik onto /

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:19:45PM -0700, Fred wrote: > The mouse is a Sun three button mouse without the scroll wheel. I > frequently use a program that makes extensive use of the middle button and > the pc mouse scroll wheel is hateful. I would like a mouse with a middle button *and* a scroll

Re: [DNG] browsers

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 06:43:09PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Firefox is quite ticking me off. > It has this penchant for NOT remembering the previous session even > when the click box has been 'enabled'. Firefox aways remebers my last session. I'm using firefox-est in chima

Re: [DNG] Fake RAID

On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 07:18:13PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 09/03/2022 à 17:12, d...@d404.nl a écrit : > > On 09-03-2022 16:55, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:42:07PM +0100, aitor wrote: > > > > > > > Did you read the

[DNG] Fake RAID

On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:42:07PM +0100, aitor wrote: > > Did you read the following guide? > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid Interesting note. What is a "fake RAID"? Is it a RAID or not? -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@list

Re: [DNG] Another reason for why I use Devuan

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 05:41:59PM -0800, Syeed Ali wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 15:25:05 -1000 > Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 05:55:49PM -0700, Keith Christian via Dng > > wrote: > > > This describes the machine ID: > > > > > > https://www.freedesktop.org/software/syst

Re: [DNG] Another reason for why I use Devuan

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 03:03:54PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hi! > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1958377/ > comments/13 > > as in Systemd does not configure the network if the machine has no > machine-id. What is a machine ID? -- hendrik > > You cannot m

[DNG] SOLVED: Menu of applications vanished from lxqt

On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 06:32:33AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 06:23:40AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > I'm going to use the guest account and see if the same happens there. > > I log into the guest account. > Everything is OK. > Th

Re: [DNG] Menu of applications vanished from lxqt

On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 06:23:40AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 10:11:32PM +0100, aitor wrote: > > Hi Hendrik, > > > > On 7/2/22 19:38, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I believe this started when I did a routine security upgrade, > > > and

Re: [DNG] Menu of applications vanished from lxqt

On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 10:11:32PM +0100, aitor wrote: > Hi Hendrik, > > On 7/2/22 19:38, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I believe this started when I did a routine security upgrade, > > and installed a program to convert markdown files to asciidoc format. Whoops! Checked a

[DNG] Menu of applications vanished from lxqt

Normally, lzqt has an icon baar (which I think they call a panel) It contains icons 1, 2, 3, 4 for the available workspaces, and a few more little squares with icons for a ile manager, a qterminal, and a(I think) an editor. But in fromt of those icons, it normally has another little square. Click

Re: [DNG] What is your take on finit?

On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 09:50:31AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 31/01/2022 à 19:16, Steve Litt a écrit : > > >     Writing a self-daemonizing daemon in C was a routine when I was > > > still active, though I understand it could be more difficult in shell. > > But more difficult in Python. I try

Re: [DNG] software question

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 08:29:01AM -0500, Ken Dibble wrote: > On 1/25/22 12:53 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 05:43:44AM -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng > > > wrote: > >

Re: [DNG] software question

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 05:43:44AM -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng > wrote: > > > > > > Hendrik Boom writes: > > > > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 07:29:27PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: >

Re: [DNG] software question

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 07:29:27PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On January 21, 2022 7:15:06 PM GMT+01:00, o1bigtenor via Dng > wrote: > > Greetings > > > > For a non-profit - - - this is not bulk email for sales - - - - bulk > > email for connection. > > > > Is there a linux program

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 02:46:39PM +1100, terryc wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 13:25:50 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 06:40:13PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 17:24:46, Peter Duffy wrote: > > > &g

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 06:40:13PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 17:24:46, Peter Duffy wrote: > > > On Sun, 2022-01-16 at 04:12 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E > > > > Thanks for the link to that - brilli

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 07:03:27AM -0600, o1bigtenor wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:33 AM Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 02:08:12PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > > > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > Lars Noodén wrote: > >

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:21:18AM +0100, Antonio Rendina via Dng wrote: > > But returning to the point, I would not reduce a distribution project to its > init. I think that a motto should focus on the consequences: > * more customizable > * more universal > * you can change every part without im

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 11:10:36AM +1100, terryc wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:19:38 +0100 (CET) > Karl Hammar wrote: > > > Hendrik: > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 08:49:41PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ma

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 02:08:12PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > Lars Noodén wrote: > > > What quality of display(s) and color calibration are required? > > > > In all the years I have been doing this, that question has never entered my > > mind and I have no ide

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 01:36:43AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > > > On 20/1/22 1:03 am, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 03:09:00PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:07:25, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . .

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:18:47PM -0500, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . " > > > >

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2022-01-18 20:49, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > > Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . " > > > > > > > Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmN

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 08:49:41PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . " > > > > Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png Interesting. The "if" in italics and off-cent

Re: [DNG] Genuine, legitimate Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video: Was: Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 01:11:52AM +, Tim Wallace via Dng wrote: > Pretty good talk.  Reminds me of the other time I heard Brian (in person) at > Purdue in 1977-78 or so.  He opened with two quotes, "The operating system > comes between the user and the hardware" which got a laugh because al

Re: [DNG] bash / quote weirdness

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 12:45:09PM -0500, . via Dng wrote: > > The shell receives a series of tokens, and tries to interpret the first one > as a command.  In the double-quoted attempt above, it gets two tokens before > the first pipe | --- > >     1) "cat -n" > >     2) /etc/fstab > > Of cour

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 06:38:56PM +, Simon wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > > This is one reason why, in shellscripts, you > > need to quote almost all variables: So they act correctly with the > > space laden filenames that windows dwoobydogs just love to create. > > Not just Windows users.

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 05:45:08PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > On the other hand... > > === > [slitt@mydesk ~]$ cat -n /etc/fstab | cut -b 1-20 | head -n5 > 1UUID=730eaf92 > 2UUID=41abb5fd > 3UUID=96cfdfb3 > 4

Re: [DNG] Group for /usr/local (was Re: merged /usr breakage)

On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 09:21:29AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi Ken, Hendrik, ... ... > >> My chimaera system says > >> > >> hendrik@midwinter:~$ ls /usr/local -l > >> total 36 > >> drwxrwsr-x 2 rootstaff 4096 Jun 1 2021 bin > >> drwxrwsr-x 2 rootstaff 4096 Jul 9 2018 et

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 05:48:08PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 07/01/2022 à 12:13, Olaf Meeuwissen a écrit : > > > Concerning installation in /usr/local: > > > -- > > > > > >     My first investigations indicate that there is provision in > > > Freedesktop.or

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 11:44:59AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 07/01/2022 à 10:18, Didier Kryn a écrit : > > Le 06/01/2022 à 22:00, Bob Proulx via Dng a écrit : > > > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > > Hendrik Boom a ecrit : > > > > > > > s

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 02:00:57PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > > > > > If the installer must be run as root, it is precisely because it > > > > needs > > > > to install software in /usr. > > Or into /usr/local which now requires root. Back in the better days > of Debian it used to be

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 09:54:20PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 05/01/2022 à 16:11, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 12:08:18AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > Le 04/01/2022 à 23:38, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > > > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 05:09

Re: [DNG] Printer trouble again. -- solved

On Sat, Jan 01, 2022 at 03:07:44PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I installed CUPS a part of the standard istall long ago. > I had no trouble configuring it back the to talk sweet to me printer. > Worked fine. Bu tnow it doesn't. > > The printer seems to hae changed its IP numb

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 12:08:18AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 04/01/2022 à 23:38, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 05:09:58PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > There is no utility in splitting the OS in several partitions. > > Might it make sense to ha

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 05:09:58PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > There is no utility in splitting the OS in several partitions. Might it make sense to have /usr mounted readonly except when upgradng or installing paackages? -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing li

Re: [DNG] Printer trouble again. (slight progress)

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 06:52:17PM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Hendrik: > ... > > DeviceURI > > dnssd://Brother%20HL-3170CDW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-30055c5516df > > From what I can see: > https://www.brother-usa.com/products/hl3170cdw > > that printer suppor

Re: [DNG] Printer trouble again. (slight progress)

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 12:10:01PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > Hallo Hendrick, > > just another possibility: If there's no intermediate print server, > grepping your local '/etc/cups/printers.conf' for 'DeviceURI' will > reveal the printer's IP address resp. its hostname as well. D

[DNG] Priter trouble again.

I installed CUPS a part of the standard istall long ago. I had no trouble configuring it back the to talk sweet to me printer. Worked fine. Bu tnow it doesn't. The printer seems to hae changed its IP number. Now I can tell it explicitly what IP numder to use by entering stuff in its physical con

Re: [DNG] Lead or follow? this decade’s dilemma for GNU/Linux based ICT industry

This is eloquent and profound enough that it needs to be somewhere where people are likely to run into it if they are investigating Devuan. Preferably with links to the five other documents you list for background information. -- hendrik On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 07:14:28PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:

[DNG] RGBling

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 01:55:34PM +1000, onefang wrote: > > I skimped on the graphics card, coz gamers made everyone put RGBling on > everything, so I had to back up one model to get one without RGBling. I > wish I could have done the same for the RAM, AND gotten ECC, but alas > neither was avai

Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 08:03:25PM +0100, Harald Arnesen wrote: > Hendrik Boom [18/12/2021 19.22]: > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 10:11:11PM +0100, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > > > > > > Another thing, try to turn off "smooth scrolling" (why would anyon

Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 10:11:11PM +0100, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > > Another thing, try to turn off "smooth scrolling" (why would anyone want > that?). How do you do that? It's the one thing that makes firefox a pain to use over a LAN. (well, I guess animations in general do that) -- he

Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 09:23:05PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Olaf Meeuwissen said on Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:40:37 +0900 > > >Hi, > > > >Steve Litt writes: > > > >> What could possibly be easier than vim /var/log/messages, or > >> vi /var/log/messages, or emacs /var/log/messages, or > >> nano /var/lo

[DNG] What not to back up

I'm setting up a new backup script that will do it all piecemeal so that if a part of it fails, it can be retried without having to start *everythng* over from scratch. Which top-level filesystems should *not* be backed up. To start with, I presumably shouldn't back up /proc /tmp /dev (cause I

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 07:42:18PM +0100, al3xu5 via Dng wrote: > > My suspected is that the (totally unecessary) usr-merge decision made by > Debian will force (almost) all its derivatives to adapt even if they > despite. > > This is because maintaining a derived distribution rejecting usr-merg

Re: [DNG] Some RAID1's inaccessible after upgrade to beowulf from ascii

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 09:00:39PM +0100, tito via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:37:24 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:56:59PM -0500, Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > > > I upgraded my server to beowulf. > > > > > > Af

Re: [DNG] Some RAID1's inaccessible after upgrade to beowulf from ascii

On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:56:59PM -0500, Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > I upgraded my server to beowulf. > > After rebooting, all home directories except root's are no longer > accessible. > > They are all on an LVM on software RAID. > > The problem seems to

[DNG] Some RAID1's inaccessible after upgrade to beowulf from ascii

I upgraded my server to beowulf. After rebooting, all home directories except root's are no longer accessible. They are all on an LVM on software RAID. The problem seems to be that two of my three RAID1 systems are not starting up properly. What can I do about it? hendrik@april:/$ cat /proc/

Re: [DNG] mutt and html

Thanks for all the advice. On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 04:13:31PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Until upgraded from ascii to beowulf, HTML messages were tolerable. > Either they were obvious crap, in which case I just deeted them, > or they seemed like they were worth viewing, in which case

Re: [DNG] mutt and html

On Tue, Nov 02, 2021 at 03:50:07PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 04:13:31PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Until upgraded from ascii to beowulf, HTML messages were tolerable. > > Either they were obvious crap, in which case I just deeted them, > > or

Re: [DNG] mutt and html

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 04:13:31PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Until upgraded from ascii to beowulf, HTML messages were tolerable. > Either they were obvious crap, in which case I just deeted them, > or they seemed like they were worth viewing, in which case they were > usually html

Re: [DNG] rdiff-backup compatibility

On Mon, Nov 01, 2021 at 11:41:58AM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > This is documented in Debian's Bullseye Release Notes and referenced from > Devuan's Chimaera Release Notes. > > Mark The need to upgrade server and client in lockstep is indeed documented in the Bullseye release notes. I ahve done

[DNG] Long-term archiving versus medium fallibility

These days an increasing amount of my personal information, bookd, mementos, family photos, and work data are being kept on digital media. And those are vulnerable. It's well-known that to archive files long-term (say, ten years or more) it is necessary to keep multiple copies, preferably on d

[DNG] rdiff-backup compatibility

rdiff-bckup has changed its communication protocol between versions 1 and 2, so it is necessary to have compatible versions of rdiff-backup at both ends of an rdiff-backup over a network, and a version 2 beowulf backport is available for rdiff for those who need to bridge rdiff-backup between o

[DNG] mutt and html

Until upgraded from ascii to beowulf, HTML messages were tolerable. Either they were obvious crap, in which case I just deeted them, or they seemed like they were worth viewing, in which case they were usually html attachments, and I could seen the list of attachments by typeing v and selecting t

[DNG] rdiff-backup connection dropped

I had a long-running rdiff-backup backing one machine up onto another. But it failed because its network connection broke. If I were to restart it, it would start by undoing everything it had already done, and start doing again what it had already done. Is there any way to get rdiff-backup to

Re: [DNG] white band on top of lxqt screen -- SOLVED

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 06:58:15PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > A few days ago (possibly related to the upgrade to chimaera) when I log > into lxqt a white band has appeared at the top of the screen. > It looks exactly like the band at the bottom, except the one at the botom > carri

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet? -- SOLVED

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 10:38:08AM -0700, spiralofhope wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 12:15:13 -0400 > Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > > > Machine works fine now, running devuan ascii. > > That's good news. > > I guess memory can "wear out", but hopefully

Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 02:19:09PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: ... ... > > Sorry I thought I has said that I had no graphics card. I'm assuing > that installing a graphic card is unlikely to get a resolution other > than the deefault vga. On some machines I've had, the motherboard starts up chec

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet? -- SOLVED

Not dead, but just injured. Replaced two 312M RAM cards with one faster 2G RAM card. Old RAM defective; tech told me that its speed was actually mismatched to the rest of the system, slowing it down. Of course "defective" was the crucial issue, not speed. Machine works fine now, running devuan asc

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?

aera/ directory where you will hopefully find a > desktop-live/ directory which should contain > devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_[amd64|i386]_desktop-live.iso along with the > shasums files. If you prefer not to use http(s), there are ftp mirrors > and torrent on that same download page. > >

Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?

cent kernel (e.g. > 5.10.x or 5.14.x) - maybe the problem is already fixed there? It may also > be a > temporary condition - a very rare edge case that made the kernel lockup, > then a > reboot will help to clean the state... > > With best regards, > b. > > On Mon, 2021

[DNG] Is it dead yet?

I think I may have a clue to the mysterious stoppages of my server. I ssh'd into it today and got the following. It is time to give up on this machine and replace it? -- hendrik hendrik@april:~$ su - Password: april:~# ps | grep lighttpd ^C^C Message from syslogd@april at Oct 25 20:15:48 ... k

[DNG] etckeeper

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:52:05PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Steve Litt writes: > > > After that, take a backup of the new system including /etc and > > $HOME, then restore *strategic* config files from /etc/ and ~ and > > ~/.config. By strategic, I mean configs that y

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 02:23:28PM +0200, maxime freepote via Dng wrote: > I had to use the conflict resolutioni tool of aptitude after an "apt-get > full-upgrade". Python was the main cause of this behaviour but also external > packages from non-standard repositories. Except this, all of the upgra

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 07:56:47AM -0400, . via Dng wrote: > On 10/17/21 07:48, terryc wrote: > > > I'm sorry to report that I tried a dist-upgrade from devuan beowulf > > > with KDE on an older machine.  The result was a system with a > > > nonfunctional window manager and messed-up display resolu

[DNG] white band on top of lxqt screen

A few days ago (possibly related to the upgrade to chimaera) when I log into lxqt a white band has appeared at the top of the screen. It looks exactly like the band at the bottom, except the one at the botom carries icons and stuff, and the one on top carries nothing. How do I go about getting r

[DNG] Warning about Wicd in Chimaera

There's no wicd in Chimaera. If you need it to access the internet, you must replace it with another network manager *before* you upgrade to chimaera, otherwise you'll not be able to access the internet to download the replacement network manager after. -- hendrik _

[DNG] Zoom in chromium has no video after I upgraded to chimaera

I upgraded my laptop to chimaera yesterday. It appears to work normally, and the upgrade was uneventful. However, when using zoom in chromium, I receive no video. Audio works fine. However, not video. The panels where I usually see other people, including the main panel, are just black rectang

Re: [DNG] npm and nodejs -- version skew?

On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 02:25:44PM +, g4sra wrote: > Hi Hendrik, > > Are you interested in authoring some sort of game in Ink ? > Because if you are I would be interested to hear what you are up to. Mostly not writing a game, but trying out various game-writing engines to see what works and

[DNG] npm and nodejs -- version skew?

While setting up to run the game editor inky ( https://www.inklestudios.com/ink/ ) I ran into what seems to be a version skew. I used aptitude to install Devuan beowulf's versions of npm and nodejs. When I got to one stage of the imky startup I got messages I have appended below. From the look

[DNG] connman, wicd, and dbus.

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 08:07:06PM -0400, tempforever wrote: > > Removing dbus also seems to have removed network-manager, and I have > lost wifi connection.  Was able to get on wired with ifconfig, route > (and editing /etc/resolv.conf) -- too lazy to use iwconfig.  But this > may need mentioning

Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:16:26PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > <--snip--> > > Net question: how to get a '/' in a file name instead of having it > > interpreted as a separator in a path. > > > > > I needed it once long ago when using a file system that had been built > > on another OS. > > >

Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:49:30AM +0300, Eric Pozharski wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 09:08:16AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31:19PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > On 2021-09-16 22:30, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > *SKIP* > &g

Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31:19PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2021-09-16 22:30, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > You can find the docs that need reviewing here: > > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ > > > > All releases > > > > General information > > Installing Dev

Re: [DNG] License for the DNG created software guide --> Proposal: DNG Verbatim Libre License

On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 10:33:31AM +0200, al3xu5 wrote: > Thu, 2 Sep 2021 21:50:10 +0200 - tito : > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:26:52 -0400 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > A discussion on this list about a month ago spawned several documents > > > about programming best p

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 02:16:58PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > My long time mentor in things Linux (described himself as a fossil) is no > longer with us. (He suggested that I strongly consider using Devuan which I > now have on one system.) > He was of the opinion that Waylan

Re: [DNG] manpages

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 09:05:36AM -0400, . via Dng wrote: > > Looking for the gcc..g++ suite manpages, expected to find them in 'gcc-doc' > > but it's missing. > > Anybody point me in the right direction ? > > I found the answer in > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/523079/what-packages-

Re: [DNG] random sudden stops

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 09:16:06PM -0400, william moss via Dng wrote: > On 8/25/21 8:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > For the past few months my home server (running an ascii installation > > physically moved from another computer) has been suddenly stopping all > > processi

[DNG] random sudden stops

For the past few months my home server (running an ascii installation physically moved from another computer) has been suddenly stopping all processing about once a month. apparently at random. It seems to stop instantly, leaving power on and becoming completely responsive to ping, existing ssh

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