Re: [DNG] A suggestion for an easier upgrade of a DE from ASCII to Beowulf

2018-09-13 Thread Fred DC
On 13/09/2018 15:42, KatolaZ wrote: We don't need a duct-tape fix, rather one that works for everybody and does not need any manual intervention. . I agree with that because that is what really everybody ultimately wants (IMHO). We are getting there. Stay tuned. OK, I will (mumb

[DNG] A suggestion for an easier upgrade of a DE from ASCII to Beowulf

2018-09-13 Thread Fred DC
Because I don't know how to file a bug-report against the whole merged/beowulf branch which presently does not allow a straight forward migration of a DE from ASCII to Beowulf I thought, if I bring up this subject in this list some of the Developers might have a look at it. It is not my desire

Re: [DNG] On a lighter note

2017-01-06 Thread Fred DC
On 06/01/2017 20:27, Dan Purgert wrote: Maybe I missed something in the original mail - I read Fred's mail as a "ha, lookie you RedHat, getting the same 'X is now considered legacy' statements made about one of your things"... Spot on, it was a spoof on RedHat. Don't they keep on telling us th

Re: [DNG] On a lighter note

2017-01-06 Thread Fred DC
On 06/01/2017 14:59, Anto wrote: I am not sure why BlankOn Linux is being bought up into this anti systemd mailing list. They clearly endorse systemd and follow debian, https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=id&u=http://dev.blankonlinux.or.id/ticket/1415. But hey, this is an open mail

[DNG] On a lighter note

2017-01-06 Thread Fred DC
Just for the fun. Does Gnome3 (aka RH) know that they use a technology which is considered by some a legacy technology? Me thinks, that maybe by the time s*d is more than just useable it might also be considered a legacy init-scheme. Quoting from the Release Notes of the BlankOn Distro: BlankO

Re: [DNG] Openrc

2016-09-12 Thread Fred DC
On 12/09/2016 10:32, Jaromil wrote: > ... > > (the above space is left intentionally blank for conspiracy theorists) > > Openrc in Debian coul be labeled as a "self hating package", > I recommend you compile from source until we provide an openrc > package. The same could be said regarding the '

Re: [DNG] vagrant and devuan guest

2016-09-02 Thread Fred DC
On 02/09/2016 10:04, Attila Soki wrote: > ... > Of course a devuan plugin would make all this unnecessary. > But before i can file a bug, or maybe create a devuan plugin, i must > know which is the preferred way to identify devuan. > grepping /etc/issues > or > grepping /etc/os-release > or > ? Th

Re: [DNG] Devuan-ascii: Upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-13 Thread Fred DC
On 12/08/2016 19:47, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Steve [big snip] Thanks for your valued thought but I consider the incident "water under the bridge". All what I wanted is to warn PID 1 'runit' users that the upgrading is a botched affair. As I said, I was able to recover the system but belive me, its no

Re: [DNG] Off-list - upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Fred DC
On 12/08/2016 13:43, Tom H wrote: >> On 12/08/2016 11:49, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> Off-list >>> >>> Install >>> runic-init >>> in order to restore >>> /sbin/init >>> and >>> /sbin/runit >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately 'runic-init' it is not in >> 'ascii' and googling didn't help neither.

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread Fred DC
On 13/08/2016 11:52, aitor_czr wrote: > [Snip} > > Yes, we need testers :) > > Best, > > Aitor. Oh yes, I will test it once it hits 'ascii' or perhaps even the 'unstable' branch. Sorry can't do better bacause I am just a user with a fairly good head on its shoulder. Regards Fred __

[DNG] Devuan-ascii: Upgrading runit to 2.1.2-5 can hose your system

2016-08-12 Thread Fred DC
Hi, My apololgies for sounding a bit emotional about this issue. If, up to now, you have "runit" running as pid 1 and managed to maintain the ability to boot from the kernel commandline using the sysv-init read on. The latest update to package 'runit' *wipes* out the 2 binaries /sbin/runit-init

Re: [DNG] NO_PUBKEY

2016-04-26 Thread Fred DC
On 26/04/2016 20:15, Julien Pinon wrote: > Le mardi 26 avril 2016 à 18:00, > Fred DC écrivait : > >> Maybe I do something wrongly, I am not too familiar with gpg. >> >> All as root >> "apt-get update" says: NO_PUBKEY AF49E19219D58C5D >> >> s

Re: [DNG] NO_PUBKEY

2016-04-26 Thread Fred DC
On 26/04/2016 16:43, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > assuming that "$KEY_ID" is the correct Devuan archive signing key, as > root or sudo'ed: > > $ gpg --recv-key $KEY_ID > $ gpg --export $KEY_ID | apt-key add - > > resp. in one go: > > $ apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net \ >

[DNG] NO_PUBKEY

2016-04-26 Thread Fred DC
By updating devuan ascii I get the following error: Failed to fetch http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ascii/InRelease The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AF49E19219D58C5D Any advise? Fred ___

Re: [DNG] Update of ascii repo

2016-04-14 Thread Fred DC
On 13/04/2016 17:30, Jaromil wrote: > ... > So now Franco is fixing this as we speak and you should be able to > upgrade to 13-04-2016 pretty soon... > > ciao Confirmed, 142 packages to update. The joy of a rolling release ;-). Thank you and the Team. Fred

[DNG] Update of ascii repo

2016-04-13 Thread Fred DC
I am not sure if the Devuan-Admin is aware that packages.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii has not seen an update since the 9th of April. Debian Stretch repos show a date of 13-04-2016 Regards Fred ___

Re: [DNG] devuan-ascii: apt-get warning re weak key

2016-04-06 Thread Fred DC
On 06/04/2016 20:36, Rob wrote: > > Debian intend to shut off SHA1 completely on January 1, 2017. > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Apt/Sha1Removal Ok, I don't need to panic. Thanks Rob. Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailingli

[DNG] devuan-ascii: apt-get warning re weak key

2016-04-06 Thread Fred DC
Does that mean that one of these days I won't be able to update ascii? W: http://packages.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease: Signature by key 72E3CB773315DFA2E464743D94532124541922FB uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1) Regards Fred ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] audio died again AND GOT RESURRECTED.

2016-03-23 Thread Fred DC
On 23/03/2016 03:32, Hendrik Boom wrote: > ... > Assuming pulseaudio was the culprit (which seems likely) it probably > was *not* installed when I installed alpha 2. It must have been > entrained with something I installed later, but I can't tell what. > Aptitude didn't want to delete anything

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-25 Thread Fred DC
On 25/02/2016 23:00, Go Linux wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:11:56 + (UTC) > > Go Linux wrote: > > ... > I once tried lxde and was not impressed. Maybe it's improved since then. > ... > golinux Moved from xfce to icewm + SpaceFM + gmrun + some decent artwork and I love it. It just works.

Re: [DNG] Devuan Ascii: Upgrading initramfs-tool breaks current devuan package initscripts

2016-02-25 Thread Fred DC
On 25/02/2016 15:06, Irrwahn wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:34:01 +0100, Richard Lucassen wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:03:41 +0100 >> Irrwahn wrote: > [...] >> It simply says "install busybox". Or have I missed a crucial issue >> somewhere? > > Sorry, but apparently you did: > > 0. The b

Re: [DNG] Devuan Ascii: Upgrading initramfs-tool breaks current devuan package initscripts

2016-02-25 Thread Fred DC
On 25/02/2016 11:03, Irrwahn wrote: > > it indeed declares a "Breaks: initscripts > (< 2.88dsf-59.3~)", which is built from the sysvinit source package. > > So, for Devuan testing/ascii we would need an update here, sooner or later. You spelled it out what I, silly me, omitted. Thank you.

[DNG] Devuan Ascii: Upgrading initramfs-tool breaks current devuan package initscripts

2016-02-23 Thread Fred DC
I don't know if this is the right place to report this. Please accept my apologies. Upgrading initramfs-tools version 0.120 to 0.123 breaks initscripts <2.88dsf-59.3-1 presently installed is 2.88dsf-59.2+devuan2 Right now I have put the package on hold because if force the install the kernel gets

Re: [DNG] Lumina . Was Re: Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-30 Thread Fred DC
On 30/12/2015 17:16, Didier Kryn wrote: > ... > It seems, from the dependencies, as being built on top of lxde > libraries. May I suggest to visit: lumina-desktop.org It is much more illuminating as a 1000 words from me. Regards Fred ___ Dng maili

Re: [DNG] Lumina . Was Re: Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-30 Thread Fred DC
On 30/12/2015 14:43, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 30/12/2015 00:38, Dragan FOSS a écrit : >> On 12/30/2015 12:03 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: >>> Out of the description it seems to come out of a Devuan dream, both for >>> what it provides and for what it doesn't. >> >> You can try, deb packages are there: >>

Re: [DNG] startup scripts (was dng@lists.dyne.org)

2015-07-18 Thread Fred DC
On 18/07/2015 10:49, Laurent Bercot wrote: > > Believe me, providing sysv-rc compatibility when you're working on > a supervision suite is no small feat: the paradigm is very different, > > . If it was easy, we would have provided compatibility packages > long ago, and supervision wo

Re: [DNG] procps

2015-07-04 Thread Fred DC
On 04/07/2015 10:26, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > So it seems this is not a *direct* dependency. It may be that some of the > dependencies depend on libsystemd0. > So it is: libprocps4 depends on libsystemd0 Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.

Re: [DNG] My experience with Devuan Alpha2

2015-07-01 Thread Fred DC
On 01/07/2015 10:16, KatolaZ wrote: > > I am not the best person to answer your questions, but I believe that > all these problems should be fixed in the beta release, when it's > ready. I am just a user but I can report that these issues have been addresses in Ascii. I use lightdm with consolek