[DNG] Keep the friendsofdevuan site or not?

2016-05-13 Thread David Harrison
ial mirror lists and the like. Do you have any other ideas? Please let me know off-list. Thanks, David Harrison/FlibberTGibbet ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 18, Issue 42

2016-03-19 Thread David Harrison
On 16/03/2016 21:30, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: WARNING: Regardless of David's intent, which I assume is benign, the preceding paragraph is solicitation to commit felony copyright infringement. Nobody should email proprietary software to others, without a written OK from the copyright hold

Re: [DNG] Microsoft upgrades Windows 7 to 10 without permission

2016-03-19 Thread David Harrison
On 16/03/2016 10:49, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: I Dropped back to 7, created a .exe that simply returns to OS, and then replaced c:\Windows\system32\GWX\GWX.exe and c\Windows\SysWOW64\GWX\GWX.exe with my NOP code. Would it be possible to share that .exe off-list? It would come in very h

[DNG] Topics

2016-03-18 Thread David Harrison
On 17/03/2016 10:13, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: I'm sorry, but the subject of your mail is not related with the matter you discuss, and the matter you discuss has nothing to do in a Linux mailing list. I apologize profusely for the one-post aside and for the hours of your life i

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread David Harrison
On 08/02/2016 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: However, it is undeniable that with the 5$ pi-zero out there will be pis everywhere, and there is no reason to add init lock-in to boot and graphics lock-in. In a word, it would be much better to have a systemd-free distro for pis, and from m

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 34

2016-02-06 Thread David Harrison
On 06/02/2016 18:27, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: I have had enough. Filter this rubbish! Amen, Edward. Let's start by filtering those rants. You asked a question and people, some of whom have given you a lot of useful advice over recent months, were good enough to answer you. You disag

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-03 Thread David Harrison
On 03/02/2016 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: In exactly this sense: Let's leave "transmuting into organic fertilizer" to the fraudsters and break up this boring and somehow quite exhausted "network - connection - manager" triangle... +1 on "connection" and "manager"... Let's take a m

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 15, Issue 85

2015-12-21 Thread David Harrison
On 21/12/2015 16:30, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > "I despise it when people don't behave according to established norms of > my cultural background" isn't really any better ... Isn't it? I'll rise to that lure, even though it adds to a rather dull apres-troll debate. I assert that it'

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring, minimalism

2015-12-16 Thread David Harrison
On 16/12/2015 15:30, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Hi Dev1fanboy, I revised the translation (italian) and added The CC html code at the end of the text file (attached). I hope it fits the purpose If any italian speaker has 5 minutes to spare having a look at it I would be glad to incorp

Re: [DNG] Removing of systemd causes removal of CUPS

2015-11-20 Thread David Harrison
On 20/11/2015 11:11, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: add this repo and install cups from there: debhttp://angband.pl/debian/ nosystemd main Nik The CUPS/systemd thing was a hiccup on my Devuan test install too. I like any command that contains 'nosystemd' :) Is this likely to be merged

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and, configuring minimalism

2015-11-04 Thread David Harrison
On 04/11/2015 11:38, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: This is spectacular documentation! You should put it on a website somewhere, because the world needs to see this. SteveT Hi Steve, all, With permission from dev1fanboy, a copy of the excellent how-to is here: http://wiki.friendsofdevuan.

Re: [DNG] Proposed editor change

2015-07-16 Thread David Harrison
Just a thought: how about building these editor options into the installer? That way everyone's happy before they even log in for the first time... Please choose your default text editor: [x] Nano (recommended for beginners) [ ] Vim (more experienced users) [ ] Emacs (more experienced us

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 9, Issue 54

2015-06-15 Thread David Harrison
On 15/06/2015 13:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Let me guess: You found blog postings by unixheads who had Brother lasers with postscript support and were happy, and based on that you bought an inkjet without postscript support? That's a mite harsh. For my ancient Brother HL5170-DN, Brot

Re: [Dng] Unofficial wiki

2015-06-14 Thread David Harrison
On 14/06/2015 16:14, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: * X-Powered-By: PHP/5.3.28 ( unmaintained and vulnerable php version ) Ah. The hosting control panel allows me to switch PHP versions up to and including 5.6. Anyone heard anything adverse about 5.6? Other than the fact that it's still P

Re: [Dng] Unofficial wiki

2015-06-14 Thread David Harrison
On 14/06/2015 16:14, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: a few things : * at the very least you will need a clean dns : https://www.zonemaster.net/test/16766 Nameserver ns1.vidacloud.co.uk/185.52.27.27 answered with a RCODE NXDOMAIN to SOA query on xx--domain-cannot-exist.xx--illegal-syntax-tld.

Re: [Dng] Unofficial wiki

2015-06-14 Thread David Harrison
On 14/06/2015 16:14, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: No luck registering. I didn't get a confirmation email, and an attempt to register with the same creds says I am already registered. The password reset seems to only work if you are already logged in !?!!? peter I'll create a login with

[Dng] Unofficial wiki

2015-06-13 Thread David Harrison
Hi everyone, I have set up http://wiki.friendsofdevuan.org as a holding place for useful information, at least until there's an official wiki in place. It's empty right now but for a few category suggestions. Not even a nifty logo. One may follow :) Please register if you like, and feel fre

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

2015-06-04 Thread David Harrison
On 04/06/2015 02:52, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: If it is the resounding will of the community to absolutely not ship the default installer with this approach, then I will withdraw from Devuan and someone else can take over the maintenance of the packages I've been working on. Daniel, you

Re: [Dng] Everyone's favorite seasoning: Cinnamon

2015-05-31 Thread David Harrison
On 31/05/2015 05:21, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: So Cinnamon and Mate are building and running systemd-less now, and with proper shutdown capability. https://git.devuan.org/groups/gnome i386 and amd64 .debs are available on my repository (Jessie*only*): http://pkg.realitysend.net/ Amaz

Re: [Dng] Everyone's favorite DE: GNOME3

2015-05-29 Thread David Harrison
On 29/05/2015 12:59, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Haven't tried yet, but I can! I actually haven't got a chance to do much Cinnaminnamon yet at all since it was still in Debian testing and largely unfit for public consumption last time it was on my mind. I suspect it will just be more conf

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 8, Issue 82

2015-05-29 Thread David Harrison
On 29/05/2015 12:59, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: If anything, I think it validates the case for a system like shui. The fact that different applications in different problem domains independently gain built-in support for scripting suggests that there's a naturally-occurring need to be abl

Re: [Dng] Everyone's favorite DE: GNOME3

2015-05-28 Thread David Harrison
On 28/05/2015 12:32, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: On 05/25/2015 05:31 PM, Jaret Cantu wrote: >I am happy to report that (most of) the GNOME3 Desktop Environment has >been made to work systemd-free, in all its spiffy, OpenGL-y goodness! Thanks a lot for your work! I might be one of the few

Re: [Dng] why someone might want systemd on devuan

2015-05-05 Thread David Harrison
On 05/05/2015 20:43, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Well, the problem here is that systemd is*not* hot-pluggable, at all, as we have recently learned the hard way. Here's a thought. Thrown to the list with no requisite knowledge to back it up, so please don't bite! Is there any way of bu

[Dng] Paging Arnt

2015-04-26 Thread David Harrison
Hi Arnt, Just tried to mail you off-list but the message bounced. 'uce-protect' blocking or somesuch. Do you have an alternate address? Cheers, David H ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d

[Dng] Fedora not implementing live kernel patching, or plain avoiding it?

2015-04-21 Thread David Harrison
Hi all, I was interested to note in an article that Fedora won't be implementing the 4.0 live patching feature any time soon. Original here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Fedora-Has-No-Plans-on-Enabling-Live-Patching-for-Linux-Kernel-4-0-478796.shtml No doubt their reasons are wise and their

[Dng] calming down

2015-04-11 Thread David Harrison
Apologies for my earlier outburst, I should have taken a walk around the block first. Just call me a little discouraged. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix!

2015-04-11 Thread David Harrison
On 11/04/2015 13:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > Because I never want to see a serif font EVER and because I prefer to see the same font used on every site that I visit. Makes browsing more peaceful. OK, so we get to the end of a long debate about how tricksy this forum site is, onl

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 6, Issue 89

2015-03-25 Thread David Harrison
On 25/03/2015 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: That's so true, Clarke! This systemd debacle increased by an order of magnitude the Linux users who understand the underpinnings of the system and are prepared to take control. This is a Renaissance in the Linux community. Well, except for De

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 6, Issue 60

2015-03-17 Thread David Harrison
On 17/03/2015 09:30, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Insofar as what needs doing, there's a pre-alpha ISO floating around (Valentine pre-alpha), and the Vagrant image could always use more testing and bug reports. There's also a list of infrastructure to-dos here: https://git.devuan.org/devua

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 6, Issue 58

2015-03-15 Thread David Harrison
In which jurisdiction? Cheques are alive and well(ish) in the UK. I don't imagine you receiving many but I'll be willing to process them. Fees will apply but they're hardly absent from electronic payment methods either. David H On 15/03/2015 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Well, th

[Dng] Xfce response

2015-02-24 Thread David Harrison
Hi all, Last week I volunteered (was volunteered?) to contact the Xfce team and ask them whether systemd loomed on their horizon. Here is the report that was promised. After a long chat with a couple of developers on the #xfce channel, it seems they have no plans to introduce hard systemd de

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 115

2015-02-24 Thread David Harrison
On 24/02/2015 16:33, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Inevitably, the idea of a badge leads to a foundation entitled to stamp distros with the badge. I am wondering if only a clear phrasing of the principles would be enough, without the impediments and the sectarism of a foundation. You

[Dng] Xfce

2015-02-21 Thread David Harrison
On 21/02/2015 01:12, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Definitely, I think we want to maintain a healthy relationship with the Xfce camp. They forked ConsoleKit (https://github.com/consolekit2/consolekit2) and enhanced it with some logind-like functionality. Saturday morning was a poor time to

[Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread David Harrison
On 21/02/2015 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to get started at it: how about designing a badge that all distros that are systemd free can show? this is not strictly Devuan related, but will benefit people willing to un

Re: [Dng] XFCE et al

2015-02-20 Thread David Harrison
I've dabbled with FreeBSD and OpenIndiana VMs lately: xfce worked just as well on those as in Linux. Was doing a little reading yesterday. Apparently a new point release is imminent, which is good news considering xfce's slow pace of releases (if not development). The lovely Whisker menu has j

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 81

2015-02-17 Thread David Harrison
There's a counter-argument that, while being read and digested, the instructions occupy a significant part of the human brain, which weighs in at ~1.5kg, the gold price for which weight is currently around USD 58,000. Then again this attention is temporary so the worth will be too. Next up, how

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 33

2015-02-10 Thread David Harrison
Thanks very much Gravis, Jaromil. I'll let the folk on #xroutine know. (And about Dowse -- looks interesting too). ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 32

2015-02-10 Thread David Harrison
Will this be compatible with the banana pi too? I'm very impressed with mine since installing a SATA drive. Makes for a great mini server. The current default distro, bananian, is a little flakey. Some fellow users were excited at the notion of Devuan for their systems too. It's based on the Al