On 21/12/2015 16:30, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
> "I despise it when people don't behave according to established norms of
> my cultural background" isn't really any better ...

Isn't it? I'll rise to that lure, even though it adds to a rather dull apres-troll debate.
I assert that it's fine to decry piss-poor behaviour.

A person can be powerless over their origins, original social class/caste, sexual orientation, cognitive development, and all the rest. Taking issue with these factors is pointless and just plain spiteful.
I assert that how someone treats others is another matter entirely. It 
involves some personal choice, and is therefore open to comment.
How certain are you that Mitt's complaint was based on some cultural 
assumption, the very existence of which you seem to disapprove? Or that 
an opinion derived from a culture is automatically wrong?
Or could the complainer, perhaps, have seen a behaviour, considered it 
from several angles, and decided it's a bad thing? Then exercised their 
right to say so?
Devuan sprang from a fierce disagreement over how people should treat 
others, and against a decaying establishment. A consensus was reached 
that a certain group's behaviour was wrong, and that something had to be 
done to counter it. The Devuan community, therefore, embodies cultural 
debate, simply because it tries to do things differently to Debian.
If we can't wrangle over what is acceptable behaviour within our own 
community then let's throw in the towel, stand back when others do 
whatever they want, whether or not it's against our interests, and 
retreat to our holes in the ground. Poettering and company win. Fin.
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