[DNG] bind9 updates broke, needed second aptitude update

2022-03-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
+0100 <---changelog extract> I expect a single update/upgrade should be fine now, but just in case this helps anyone else, it's on the mailing list now ;-) Cheers -- Andrew McGlashan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
On 20/1/22 5:07 pm, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2022-01-19 23:08, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: >> >> About the logo, /if/ Okay, then about the IMAGE ... /if/ ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.d

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
On 20/1/22 7:56 am, Steve Litt wrote: > Syeed Ali said on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:56:59 -0800 > >> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:59:35 -0600 >> goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> >>> Or this might be even better https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/if-rev3.png >> >> I submit: >> >> "Freedom includes init choice." > > V

Re: [DNG] Youtube is slow and advertisement laden: Was: Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

2022-01-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
On 17/1/22 1:54 pm, Ken Dibble wrote: > Or just install tsp and submit the download commands to the queue. What is "tsp" ? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
On 20/1/22 1:03 am, Antony Stone wrote: > On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png >>> >>> Or this might be even better https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/

Re: [DNG] Problems with SPF of dyne.org for this mailing list

2022-01-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, Not fixed? Did anybody look at this. There are a bunch of new messages now coming from one or more other IP addresses for the list. A. On 6/1/22 11:15 pm, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > This report/notice is generated from the  mail server which handles > incoming and outgoing

[DNG] Problems with SPF of dyne.org for this mailing list

2022-01-06 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, This report/notice is generated from the  mail server which handles incoming and outgoing emails for: the mailing list NB: Incoming email has been flagged with a permanent error due to the currently defined SPF ruleset as setup by those responsible for the SENDING domain name.   Sending IP

Re: [DNG] kvm -- virsh failed shutdown -- reason was missing acpid on vm [resolved]

2021-03-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 26/3/21 12:25 am, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 25 March 2021 at 14:16:52, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > >> "virsh shutdown vmname" >> >> The immediate response was that it would shutdown the vm >> >> However, d

[DNG] kvm -- virsh failed shutdown -- reason was missing acpid on vm [resolved]

2021-03-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
ot; still showed the vm as "Running" no matter how long I waited. It turns out the the vm needed to have the acpid package installed so that the vm could get the shutdown signal. Kind Regards AndrewM -- Andrew McGlashan ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] failed to boot, left at initramfs shell -- with fix and query

2020-07-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
On 8/7/20 10:07 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 06:14:51PM +1000, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: >> >> >> On 8/7/20 7:31 am, Alexander Bochmann wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> ...on Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 02:00:38AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan

Re: [DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] failed to boot, left at initramfs shell -- with fix and query

2020-07-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
On 8/7/20 7:31 am, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > Hi, > > ...on Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 02:00:38AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > > > After the dist-upgrade, it failed to boot and remained at the ministrants > shell environment after having complained about not b

Re: [DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] failed to boot, left at initramfs shell -- with fix and query

2020-07-07 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
On 7/7/20 8:58 am, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Doesn't systemd require a merged /usr partition? It sounds as if a > systemd-ism has crept into our boot process. > > Fortunately I haven't upgraded my server to beowulf yet. Probably I know that Debian wants merged /usr, wasn't sure it was specif

[DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] failed to boot, left at initramfs shell -- with fix and query

2020-07-06 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, I had another "simple" server upgrade from Devuan Ascii to Devuan Beowulf, these are the details and my work around for the problem. There was nothing particularly special about this server, it doesn't use encrypted file systems; it started out life as a Debian Wheezy installation, migrat

Re: [DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] chrooted bind9 server -- /usr/share/dns/root.hints issue -- with fix

2020-07-05 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
start properly, immediately and again after another reboot. Should it be all good now? Thanks A. On 6/7/20 12:04 am, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > I just upgraded fron Devuan ascii to beowulf with the server running bind9 in > a chroot environment and bind wou

[DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] chrooted bind9 server -- /usr/share/dns/root.hints issue -- with fix

2020-07-05 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, I just upgraded fron Devuan ascii to beowulf with the server running bind9 in a chroot environment and bind would not start. _This was the relevant error in /var/log/daemon.log_ Jul  5 23:36:43 bind9-server-name named[6476]: *could not configure root hints from '/usr/share/dns/root.hi

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade - 32% slowdown !

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 12/6/20 8:49 pm, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi all! > > I just upgraded from ascii to beowulf a pretty decent laptop, equipped > with a core i7 and 8GB of RAM. > > I upgraded everything in place: so same desktop environment, same > applications, same hard disk... just "apt-get dist

Re: [DNG] Out of data ca-certificates causing problems with wget and curl now...

2020-06-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 2/6/20 1:32 am, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> $ wget -v4U "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 >> Firefox/60.0" https://www.idrix.fr/VeraCrypt/canary.txt--2020-06-01 >> 09:15:48-- >> https://www.idrix.fr/VeraCrypt/canary.txt >> Connecting to 127.0.0.1:8118... connected. >> ERRO

Re: [DNG] Out of data ca-certificates causing problems with wget and curl now...

2020-06-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 1/6/20 6:37 pm, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 01-06-2020 01:31, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: >> ca-certificates >> >> /usr/bin/aptitude show -t stretch-backports ca-certificates: >> E: Unable to locate package ca-certificates: >> >> https://packages.de

Re: [DNG] Out of data ca-certificates causing problems with wget and curl now...

2020-05-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
OUT OF DATE -- not data On 1/6/20 9:31 am, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > ca-certificates > > /usr/bin/aptitude show -t stretch-backports ca-certificates: > E: Unable to locate package ca-certificates: > > https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch-bac

[DNG] Out of data ca-certificates causing problems with wget and curl now...

2020-05-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
hout migrating to beowulf now? Thanks -- Andrew McGlashan IT Support & Broadband Solutions signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 16/3/20 5:51 am, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > On 13/3/20 1:59 pm, Steve Litt wrote: >> It's called POSIX. With POSIX, I always have shellscripts, AWK and sort >> ready to do my work for me. With POSIX, I can pipe a stdout into the >> next stdin. With POS

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 13/3/20 1:59 pm, Steve Litt wrote: > It's called POSIX. With POSIX, I always have shellscripts, AWK and sort > ready to do my work for me. With POSIX, I can pipe a stdout into the > next stdin. With POSIX, I can plug in anything conforming to POSIX, > such as dmenu, a genius of a program th

[DNG] Terrible reporting / puff piece about systemd

2020-02-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Horrid article that could have been written by pro-systemd Debian devs themselves. https://fossforce.com/2020/02/the-verdict-on-systemd-is-in/ Throw your 2pence in, I have; not that I expect my post to actually remain or remain without a counter attack :( A. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [DNG] buster to beowulf

2020-02-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 3/2/20 9:28 pm, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > On 17/1/20 6:37 pm, Mark Hindley wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 06:45:44PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> Yes, I have been working on this. >> >> Attached is the script I have been testing. It single steps th

Re: [DNG] buster to beowulf

2020-02-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
ify it's checksum? Passes shellcheck cleanly. Cheers A. -- Andrew McGlashan IT Support & Broadband Solutions Affinity Vision Australia Pty Ltd *** buster_migration.sh.orig 2020-02-03 20:56:10.696650864 +1100 --- buster_migration.sh 2020-02-03 21:09:41.708648329 +1100 *

Re: [DNG] Catching up (was Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd')

2019-12-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 1/1/20 6:53 am, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 12/31/19 2:16 PM, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> Hi, >> >> On 1/1/20 4:20 am, fsmithred via Dng wrote:

Re: [DNG] Catching up (was Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd')

2019-12-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 1/1/20 4:20 am, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 12/31/19 12:06 PM, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > >> So how long before we can expect to get stable release of >> Beowulf? Is there a reasonable timeline available yet

Re: [DNG] Catching up (was Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd')

2019-12-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, -- essentially same message, but with line resizing to help with gpg sig -- On 31/12/19 12:32 pm, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > fsmithred via Dng writes: >> On 12/29/19 10:46 PM, tom wrote: >>> I know Devuan has been pretty muc

Re: [DNG] Catching up (was Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd')

2019-12-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 31/12/19 12:32 pm, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > fsmithred via Dng writes: >> On 12/29/19 10:46 PM, tom wrote: >>> I know Devuan has been pretty much more or less 'to create a >>> binary compatible Debian but without systemd', but at what

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2019-12-31 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 31/12/19 7:46 am, Steve Litt wrote: > I didn't hear anyone telling people what to do. I heard Tom ask a > question. Tom? I think you meant me ? Cheers A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTJAoMHtC6YydLfjUOoFmvLt+/i+wUCXgt6ogA

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2019-12-30 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/12/19 3:10 pm, terryc wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:11:16 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng > wrote: In my experience, when people who do > not do the work start telling the people who do do the work, what > to do, many efforts

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-28 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 29/12/19 12:01 am, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 28/12/2019 07:01, Steve Litt wrote: >> So, if we insist on assisting Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, and their >> ilk, and all their users, by incorporating DMARC > > Really, it's surely not a matter of willing

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2019-12-28 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 28/12/19 9:03 pm, Alexis PM via Dng wrote: > A mediocre result, neither good nor bad. The best option for people > who don't want to use systemd, Option 6 "E: Support for multiple > init systems is Required", came in last. But Option 1 "F: Fo

Re: [DNG] :-) Don't get into a pissing contest with Rick Moen

2019-12-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
On 25/12/19 5:17 pm, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Andrew McGlashan via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > >> Although I don't expect to win pissing contests (especially with >> Rick), I tend to decide that the other opinion /may/ be true or not >> and simply beg to differ

Re: [DNG] :-) Don't get into a pissing contest with Rick Moen

2019-12-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 19/12/19 10:27 pm, Steve Litt wrote: > My advice, don't get into a pissing contest with Rick Moen: You'll > lose. I know, I've lost many times. Rick and I are actually good > friends, but when we disagree, we get in a pissing contest, and I'm > always the guy ending up dripping wet. > > If

Re: [DNG] Fw: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-13 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 14/12/19 2:30 pm, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >> According to this message on the Debian-User email message, Debian is >> working on dumping non-systemd inits. > > I continue to be unimpressed by the debian-user mailing list as a source > of reliab

Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests, Epoch

2019-11-27 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 27/11/19 7:42 pm, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > Arnt Karlsen: > >> ..you can't (AFAIK), you do it outside your MUA, with e.g.: 'cat >> $DIGEST |formail +1 -ds procmail ' > > HI, yes, it was clear that it couldn't be done graphically in > Thunderbi

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-26 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Rick, On 26/11/19 3:22 pm, Rick Moen wrote: > and just let the two or three users of that mode curse me > as long as they feel is therapeutic. Love it! Great way to deal with it. On 26/11/19 8:33 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..anotherwa

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 24/11/19 1:21 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..apologies, I just hit the Reply-button and saw you on the > Cc:-line, and was led to believe that was your intention. > Responding to this message, I found I had to hit the > ReplyAll-button to get yo

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 23/11/19 4:38 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:17:58 +1100, Andrew wrote in message > : > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Jo. >> >> On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: >>> In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linu

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jo. On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linux? I think not. MX is not exactly against systemd, they use it still, but not as the init system. And MX is reliant upon Debian any

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-10-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Steve, First off, I fully support your initiative. On 9/10/19 5:25 pm, Steve Litt wrote: > I can't give you proof, but I can give a strong piece of evidence: > > http://asay.blogspot.com/2006/10/interview-with-red-hat-cto-brian.html > I think

Re: [DNG] Patch for /etc/os-release on ascii

2019-08-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/8/19 1:12 pm, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > It might help to have the same level of detail for /etc/os-release > on both ascii and beowulf. That would allow a more standardized > approach to automatically detecting the versions. Perhaps the

Re: [DNG] linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64 update breaks networking

2019-08-09 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 8/8/19 9:44 am, Chris Richmond wrote: >     I updated anotherwise stock Devuan ASCII install and > gotlinux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64, and it breaks one > > of my ethernet connections that’s using dhcp.  Rebooting and > selectinglinux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64restores > > functionality. > > Any sugg

Re: [DNG] Weird problem with every kernel update

2019-07-27 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 27/7/19 8:29 pm, Pontus Goffe via Dng wrote: > On 2019-07-27 03:44, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> Okay, it turns out that Devuan Jessie includes two extra modules >> that needed to be added to the Devuan Ascii >> /etc/in

Re: [DNG] Weird problem with every kernel update

2019-07-26 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 27/6/19 10:00 am, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 01:10:20AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> On 25/6/19 10:23 am, Gregory Nowak wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 06:50:48AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan >&g

Re: [DNG] Weird problem with every kernel update

2019-06-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 25/6/19 10:23 am, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 06:50:48AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Hardware NUC6i7KYK. >> >> Every time I do a kernel upgrade (Devuan ASCII), rebooting l

[DNG] Weird problem with every kernel update

2019-06-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Hardware NUC6i7KYK. Every time I do a kernel upgrade (Devuan ASCII), rebooting loses USB devices shortly after grub kicks in. I have to boot a USB stick, which (Devuan Jessie Live), start a rescue session and do all the following steps: 1. au

Re: [DNG] issue with mailserver adding mail. to domain for email address....

2019-05-14 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 15/5/19 10:43 am, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On the bad server I can do the following as root I removed mailutils from the bad server and installed bsd-mailx and that fixed the problem. The /etc/alternatives/mailx were different on the

[DNG] issue with mailserver adding mail. to domain for email address....

2019-05-14 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I've got a weird problem, two servers are essentially setup identically, but one is giving me grief. I've got entries like the following on both servers in /etc/email-addresses user1: user1--u...@example.com.au root: root--u...@example.com.au

[DNG] GPG signing of emails

2019-04-21 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, For those that choose to sign their emails, please do so using "inline PGP", this way the message parts that are signed will get properly covered and can easily be checked for validity. I use Thunderbird with Enigmail, and I don't automatically

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-21 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 15/4/19 5:07 am, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 14-04-19 21:03, Jim Jackson wrote: >> >> I find this somewhat amusing. Have you ever followed the linux >> kernel email list, and watched the falling out and aggression >> there ha

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 6/4/19 12:41 am, chillfan--- via Dng wrote: > I'm not sure then if the bus-factor does apply, but I'm sure none > of the core developers are the type to cross the road without > looking ;-) Sure, but the "bus factor" is not just relating to

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-05 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 5/4/19 11:28 pm, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 05-04-19 11:16, Simon Hobson wrote: >> chillfan wrote: >> >>> Katolaz is working very hard to ensure we have releases, but I >>> didn't realise he was doing all this even. >> I did

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2/4/19 11:33 pm, Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:28:52 +0200 Arnt Karlsen > wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:29:46 +0300, Dimitris wrote in message >> : >> >>> - TZ difference is bad. we should all go GMT or something >

Re: [DNG] Update on the Green Hat Hackers attack

2019-04-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 2/4/19 4:13 am, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 4/1/19 7:49 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> ..this cartoon is used in production how? ;o) > > snowden told us how. > > dev1 joke affected production devuan systems how? There is just so much wrong ab

[DNG] Ascii Multimedia -- /etc/apt/sources.list

2019-02-09 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, What /etc/apt/sources.list entries should we now use for Devuan ascii for multimedia. This is what I previously used with Deuan jessie: (and it seemed to be okay) # deb-multimedia deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free Thanks AndrewM signature.asc Description: OpenPG

Re: [DNG] ..alsa+apulse and torbrowser... rpath is /usr/lib/apulse and is too long???

2019-01-18 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 17/1/19 2:51 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..we've heard of firefox dropping alsa etc for pulseaudio on behalf of > the Tor/torbrowser people or the systemd people and since pulseaudio > tried a "government shutdown", on _my_ iron, I did to pulseaudio what > you yanks should try on your own put

[DNG] KVM guest update to Ascii problem with Jessie KVM host

2019-01-12 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I upgraded a guest from Devuan Jessie to Devuan Ascii. The guest wouldn't boot the 4.9 kernel, but I could boot it's older 3.16 kernel okay. Then I upgraded the host from Jessie to Ascii as well and all was good. My son believes this is a bug

[DNG] Jessie --> ascii issues

2018-11-17 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, I've upgraded one of my servers from Devuan Jessie to Devuan ASCII and had some issues. First the initramfs failed to work properly as I have custom scripts for the setup, one of the scripts sets up a bunch of useful tools for the initramfs environment and that part was fine. But a differen

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-30 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 30/10/18 05:06, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I wouldn't consider this necessarily doom and gloom Some might say IBM "helped" derail the AU census... and more, but the AU gov't keeps giving them support after multiple alleged botch ups where they can /claim/ it to not be their fault. It may alleg

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-21 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/10/18 21:10, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > I first noticed it while testing Stretch, I run a multimedia setup > no problem with Jessie without systemd or wheezy, I was running a > intel laptop HDMI to a big screen smart tv, the screen would go > bla

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-21 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Rick, On 21/10/18 14:42, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Jimmy Johnson (field.engin...@gmail.com): > >> Who remembers when rootkit hunter started showing problems and >> Debian said they where false positive problems? I think it was >> sometime dur

Re: [DNG] What's the latest stable version?

2018-10-13 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 14/10/18 07:01, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 13 October 2018 at 21:49:30, Steve Litt wrote: >> What's the latest stable version of Devuan? I'm going to set up a >> test VM to test runit on Devuan. > > "Devuan’s stable release is now 2.0

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-10-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 12/08/18 14:55, mett wrote: > I m wondering about the best way to restrict a user after he has > ssh'd into his web folder. I solved this problem a different way. Created a VM just for the required user(s). They needed to provide their sta

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII Live USB security issue

2018-09-27 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 27/09/18 08:28, fsmithred wrote: > On 09/26/2018 01:03 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Add the following > to the boot command: noautologin nocomponents=sudo Perfect, that takes care of my most immediate concerns. > There aren&#x

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII Live USB security issue

2018-09-26 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 27/09/18 06:01, Jaromil wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >> I've been using a live USB of Devuan with XFCE, I boot it to RAM >> and then setup my temporary environment from a different LUKS >

[DNG] Devuan ASCII Live USB security issue

2018-09-26 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I've been using a live USB of Devuan with XFCE, I boot it to RAM and then setup my temporary environment from a different LUKS encrypted USB. This allows me to keep my data secure and the setup as simple as possible without actually installing

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/07/18 17:51, KatolaZ wrote: > Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read > through it. So I guess your fears are somehow unjustified... There were long standing problems with openssl -- the source code was fully avai

Re: [DNG] what happened to usbmount?

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 20/06/18 00:05, Erik Christiansen wrote: > Martin, I think I will too. That is one nifty little bit of kit, not > just to be added to my survival notes accumulated over the decades, but > to be pushed into the wetware despite increasing backpressure after 2^6 > trips around our star. Song ...

[DNG] X11RDP-o-Matic Information - Scarygliders

2018-06-14 Thread Andrew McGlashan
https://scarygliders.net/x11rdp-o-matic-information/ Interesting quote from the above link: NOTE: I am no longer actively spending days/hours of my time to maintain this script – there are too many different variations of Linux Distributions and they come out so frequently and always include cha

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-09 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 09/06/18 15:49, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > There's something fishy about this story. >  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44368813 > It was first published on June 5th and now dated June 6th, I first read > the story on June 5th at the same link.  Not recoverable, not repairable > or so they s

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 05/06/18 03:06, Mark Rousell wrote: > My statement that MS were the largest single contributor on GitHub comes > from GitHub's own statistics specifically for *open source* > contributions (admittedly dating from 2016). > > Source: http://businessinsider.com/microsoft-github-open-source-2016-

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 05/06/18 02:46, Mark Rousell wrote:> Anyway, I look forward to Microsoft Enterprise Linux in due course. ;-) NO WAY! It's bad enough with RHEL and it's competitors; if I need that brand of Linux, I would go CentOS... but it will be a very cold day in hell before I opted for a Microsoft versio

[DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Is this a case of mass US based industrial espionage now? It's been said that Microsoft makes a great deal of monies from Linux with patents in play. I see this as a perfect solution for Microsoft to go after every man and his dog using github to see if there are any patents to win more money ove

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 20/05/18 00:42, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..you need both, IME. 17 years ago, I was the final lawful webmaster > at fmb.no, our domain docs were stolen by https://www.frp.no/ people. Is there an English translation for that? https://web.archive.org/web/20051119085953/http://www.fmb.no:80/ Che

Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 05/05/18 04:04, Hendrik Boom wrote: > It may not be an option unless I want to get out of computing > altogether. The problem is that everything has got a computer in it these days and I too fear that the only option to avoid all the bad-ness going on is to opt out of computing as well :(

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware

2018-03-12 Thread Andrew McGlashan
One thing about using used [,old] and free hardware is that it has power efficiency problems. Newer hardware tends to be more power efficient (if you choose wisely). This means that newer hardware can "pay" for itself via energy savings alone. Less power consumed, less heat. If you have an abund

Re: [DNG] The FSF seems to have finally sold out

2018-03-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 08/03/18 10:05, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > In exchange for money they are now advertising and endorsing a maker of > fake libre hardware by letting them have a booth at libreplanet an > endorsing their debian copy "PureOS" > > https://libreplanet.org/2018/sponsors Really? I am pretty positi

Re: [DNG] Problems with KVM server after updates (possibly linux-image is culprit) -- cannot start any guests.

2018-01-11 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 11/01/18 18:32, Thomas Besser wrote: > Just upgraded one of the KVM server host machines to > linux-image-3.16.0-5-amd643.16.51-3+deb8u1 > > After that starting of virtual machines work like before (qemu-kvm > 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6). Okay, I think I might be better off doing a clean fr

Re: [DNG] Problems with KVM server after updates (possibly linux-image is culprit) -- cannot start any guests.

2018-01-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 11/01/18 08:10, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm getting errors when trying to start guests after a restart with new > kernel. > > > qemu-system-x86_64: > /build/qemu-CeGdkI/qemu-2.8+dfsg/target-i386/kvm.c:1805: kvm_put_msrs: > Assertion `ret == cpu->

[DNG] Problems with KVM server after updates (possibly linux-image is culprit) -- cannot start any guests.

2018-01-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, I'm getting errors when trying to start guests after a restart with new kernel. qemu-system-x86_64: /build/qemu-CeGdkI/qemu-2.8+dfsg/target-i386/kvm.c:1805: kvm_put_msrs: Assertion `ret == cpu->kvm_msr_buf->nmsrs' failed. 2018-01-10 20:29:51.073+: shutting down < ii  linux-image-3.16.0

Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-29 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 29/12/17 13:57, Rick Moen wrote: > One can also reasonably say that the ext2/ext3/ext4 codebase has > benefited from more real-world testing than any other *ix fileystem code > in history. (ext4 departs significantly more from ext3 than the latter > did from ext2, as detailed here: > https://

Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-28 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 28/12/17 11:51, Steve Litt wrote: > Being a fan of simplicity, I use ext4 on all partitions. No LVM: I > don't want the extra layer. With things like bind mount I can > temporarily move parts of one filetree to a different partition, and > the next time I full-install or buy a new computer or

Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-28 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 28/12/17 15:05, Rick Moen wrote: > ECC RAM is not sufficient to catch all bad RAM problems, only some. > Back in 2006, I had an interesting case of this: > http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2006-December/002662.html > http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2006-December/002668.html >

Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-27 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 27/12/17 16:50, Josef Grosch wrote: > A good place to start is ZFS On Linux (http://zfsonlinux.org/) This project > is being run by the bright boys and girls at Lawrence Livermore National Lab, > our tax dollars at work. Yes, it is covered by a GPLv2-incompatible > licence[1] (CDDL), but

Re: [DNG] git.devuan.org -- 2FA issues

2017-08-30 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 25/08/17 21:04, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>> 2FA is re-enabled for me, but if you use the Google Authenticator app, >>> it won't work because you cannot change the time sever to use >>> git.devuan.org (which has a different time). The time is still out by

Re: [DNG] git.devuan.org -- 2FA issues

2017-08-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 25/08/17 20:09, Narcis Garcia wrote: > El 25/08/17 a les 11:00, Andrew McGlashan ha escrit: >> Hi, >> >> Okay, my code wasn't actually using the git.devuan.org server time, it >> just displayed it. >> >> 2FA is re-enabled for me, but if you use th

Re: [DNG] git.devuan.org -- 2FA issues

2017-08-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Okay, my code wasn't actually using the git.devuan.org server time, it just displayed it. 2FA is re-enabled for me, but if you use the Google Authenticator app, it won't work because you cannot change the time sever to use git.devuan.org (which has a different time). Kind Regards AndrewM

[DNG] git.devuan.org -- 2FA issues

2017-08-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
devuan.org 1503649036Fri Aug 25 18:17:16 2017local As it stands now, I cannot re-enable 2FA with the account. My Python code gets the server (https://git.devuan.org) time using curl -Is with the "Date:" header. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan signatu

Re: [DNG] [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-26 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-- update from original posteer -- Minor update on the issue: The check command provided in the advisory to test for hyper-threading doesn't work: it will always report hyper-theading as enabled. A better command is provided below. Note: this also means the perl script will give some false-po

Re: [DNG] [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Just re-sending this from the Debian User's list FYI - originally from: "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh " - this email with the perl script (I'll post that one here too) On Sun, 25 Jun 2017, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > This warning advisory is relevant for users of systems w

[DNG] [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

2017-06-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Just re-sending this from the Debian User's list FYI - originally from: "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh " - are we all good here? - NB: there is a nice perl script to check vuln too on that list (I'll post that one here too) This warning advisory is relevant for users of systems with th

Re: [DNG] devuan.org inaccessible two days

2017-05-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 20/05/17 01:00, Thaddeus Nielsen wrote: > For the second consecutive day my end of the internet cannot find devuan.org http://isup.me/devuan.org It's fine for me... Cheers A. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] dovecot / exim4 / system users -- restriction of emails per user

2017-05-15 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Okay, this is how I've managed to /mostly/ sort this problem; logging is my friend and I can keep outgoing emails for verification. I've adjusted an acl entry to add a temporary header as follows: /etc/exim4/conf.d/acl/30_exim4-config_check_rcpt accept authenticated = * add_header

Re: [DNG] Latest 64-bit Skype for Linux works with ALSA

2017-05-14 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 14/05/17 23:24, Joel Roth wrote: > I installed the 64-bit .deb, and after some fruitless > struggles with the apulse wrapper (microphone not detected) discovered > that Skype now works just fine with ALSA only. Skype is a pox from M$ why not support alternatives? Other options inclu

Re: [DNG] dovecot / exim4 / system users -- restriction of emails per user

2017-05-12 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 12/05/17 21:34, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > IIRC this isn't at all simple with that software. For mostly poor > reasons that may have changed since last time I looked. > > You could approximate it with a bit of hacking, though: Use exim to > force a bcc to something like policyviolation@asdf

[DNG] dovecot / exim4 / system users -- restriction of emails per user

2017-05-12 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, I'm sure that this has been solved, but I can't find the answers and I'm having trouble crafting a solution. Running exim4 4.8+ (with split setup) / dovecot 1:2.1+ -- with system user auth and virtual users with exim4. Each system user login can use ANY email address for "sender and/or repl

Re: [DNG] Linux 4.9 kernel

2017-05-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 09/05/17 00:50, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > There was an issue with backports not being pinned properly in the beta2 > (see: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=32). Or perhaps you have > backports enabled? Yes, that issue seems to hit the nail on the head; I'm sure that is why I actually h

Re: [DNG] Linux 4.9 kernel

2017-05-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 09/05/17 01:04, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 12:37:51AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> Start-Date: 2016-10-30 16:05:42 >> Install: linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64:amd64 (4.7.8-1~bpo8+1, >> automatic), firmw

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