On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 06:07:31PM -0400, . via Dng wrote:
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> On 7/29/21 6:00 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
> > American != English
> >
> > Rowland
>
> Also,
>
> British != English
>
> Canadian != English
>
> Indian != English
>
> Australian != English
>
> Uganda
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 04:57:44PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> al3xu5 said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:33:10 +0200
> >
> >11) Document and document and document all the code (vars, functions,
> >errors etc. ... all)
>
> I do that: Nobody else does. It really makes things difficult when I
> need to work
On 7/28/21 1:12 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
[ Beverity ]
Does anyone have other list items to add?
Now that you got me thinking;
One should be explicit instead of implicit. I see this in code all the
time and it drives me crazy
// NO
if (condition)
doSomething();
// YES
if (condition)
On 7/28/21 2:02 PM, tito via Dng wrote:
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That's bad... I love global variables ;-( as they avoid shuffling around
parameters in functions (KISS?)
Global variables are a disaster looking for a place to happen, avoid at
all cost. The scope of variables should be as smal
On 7/29/21 6:00 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
> American != English
>
> Rowland
Also,
British != English
Canadian != English
Indian != English
Australian != English
Ugandan != English
Chaucer == English
-Bob,mon.
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> g4sra via Dng said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:50:02 +
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> > sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
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g4sra via Dng said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:50:02 +
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>On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 9:19 PM, Steve Litt
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>> spiralofhope said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 11:00:48 -0700
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>> > Once this gets complex enough it'll n
al3xu5 said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:33:10 +0200
>
>9) Write code to debug and log
I'm not sure what you mean here. Do you mean to write errors and
warnings to log files, or do you mean something more.
>
>10) Handle all kind of errors
I know that's the *right* thing to do, and I do it often, bu
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On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 9:19 PM, Steve Litt
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> spiralofhope said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 11:00:48 -0700
>
> > Once this gets complex enough it'll need to be self-hosting in a sense;
> > check the rules against th
spiralofhope said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 11:00:48 -0700
>Once this gets complex enough it'll need to be self-hosting in a sense;
>check the rules against the rules -- de-duplicate, simplify, add
>documentation, etc. :)
>
>Internal consistency? I don't know the correct term offhand.
Huh?
SteveT
S
tempforever said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 12:13:51 -0400
>Is this commandment (the code of one subroutine fitting into one
>screen) an absolute rule? What about, for example, assembly-language
>programming? Must I buy a bigger screen? :-)
>I will admit that I do very little assembly anymore, so this
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:16:31 +
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> <--snip->>
>
> > > > > There are just too many Gigabytes of Drivers required to satisfy
> > > > > every corner case,
> > > > > You would need to put Drivers and Firmware for every network device
> > > > > in existence on the installati
Riccardo Mottola via Dng said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:17:28 +0200
>Also, most essentially, it is a matter of network driver, the rest can
>stay on the non-free repository.
You need the video drivers too.
SteveT
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Riccardo Mottola said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:07:11 +0200
>Sometimes you can find another card, but that is not always possible.
>Rarely you can know exactly what is inside a Laptop on beforehand.
Riccardo,
You just reminded me that I always recommend having a known good,
doesn't-need-drivers wi
Anno domini 2021 Thu, 29 Jul 10:57:50 -0700
spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com scripsit:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:33:10 +0200
> al3xu5 wrote:
>
> > 11) Document and document and document all the code (vars, functions,
> > errors etc. ... all)
>
> It was mentioned earlier; variables and functions wou
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 03:58:02PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> With all respect due to your work, I tend to think that with such
> expensive and dangerous machines, more investment should be put into
> hardware so as to get controllers with a decent ram. And maybe the
> firmware could take safe
Once this gets complex enough it'll need to be self-hosting in a sense;
check the rules against the rules -- de-duplicate, simplify, add
documentation, etc. :)
Internal consistency? I don't know the correct term offhand.
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:33:10 +0200
al3xu5 wrote:
> 11) Document and document and document all the code (vars, functions,
> errors etc. ... all)
It was mentioned earlier; variables and functions wouldn't need much
(if any) documentation if they were long and descriptive.
I like using short phras
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> > > > There are just too many Gigabytes of Drivers required to satisfy every
> > > > corner case,
> > > > You would need to put Drivers and Firmware for every network device in
> > > > existence on the installation media.
>
> Hi,
>
> let's add this up for example for amd64
>
On 7/29/21 9:13 AM, tempforever wrote:
Is this commandment (the code of one subroutine fitting into one screen)
an absolute rule? What about, for example, assembly-language
programming? Must I buy a bigger screen? :-)
I will admit that I do very little assembly anymore, so this wouldn't
affect
Is this commandment (the code of one subroutine fitting into one screen)
an absolute rule? What about, for example, assembly-language
programming? Must I buy a bigger screen? :-)
I will admit that I do very little assembly anymore, so this wouldn't
affect me much now. I have many routines in C t
Tue, 27 Jul 2021 07:31:12 -0700 - Josef Grosch :
> On 7/26/21 11:26 PM, tito via Dng wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 22:53:02 -0400
> > Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> >> Hendrik Boom said on Mon, 26 Jul 2021 17:21:24 -0400
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:48:53AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >>>
Hi,
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> This is why Devuan's installer will ask\prompt you to insert additional
> installation media such as a USB stick.
> There are just too many Gigabytes of Drivers required to satisfy every corner
> case, put the drivers your quirky hardware requires on a USB stick and us
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 12:43:00 +
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 6:58 AM, tito via Dng
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:26:07 +
> > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote:
> > > <--snip-->
> > > This is why Devuan's installer will ask\prompt you to insert addi
Hi,
Steve Litt wrote:
> I hate the preceding hassle. Every Linux distro's install media should
> have all drivers available during installation. After installation, if
> the user wishes to remove all non-free from his computer, he can do so.
> Or, the installation process can come with an "include
On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 6:58 AM, tito via Dng
wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:26:07 +
> g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote:
> > <--snip-->
> > This is why Devuan's installer will ask\prompt you to insert additional
> > installation media such as a USB stick.
>
> Hi
>
> The u
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