Re: [DNG] Oldstable and Archive timing expectations?

2020-12-04 Thread Simon Walter
On December 4, 2020 9:17:12 PM UTC, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >On 2020-12-04 14:25, Adam Borowski wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:43:25PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >>> > I have a lot of systems running ascii and no plan to upgrade them >yet. I >>> > don't want to upgrade when ascii is a

[DNG] Mental Outlaw does Devuan

2020-12-04 Thread Simon Walter
He has a lot of good videos - not so accurate, but I love his enthusiasm. He reminds me of myself when I was 15. He just put this out: Devuan 3.0 Beowulf Install & Review - The Best Entry to Freedom from SystemD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzDwiEaehrQ&t=0 -- Sent from my mobile device. Plea

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > Imagine that you tried and failed to find any door that would taken a > skilled lockpicker more than three seconds to open. Would you leave the > entrance to your flat wide open without a door at all? That's what you're > suggesting. No, I'm not.

Re: [DNG] Obviousness (was: Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...))

2020-12-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Bernard Rosset via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > >It makes me sad that this view is deemed 'contrarian'. As a sysadmin, I > >consider it obvious common sense. > > I have no idea if it is contrarian or if it is the silent majority > of opinions. However the opinion being more vocal definite

Re: [DNG] Oldstable and Archive timing expectations?

2020-12-04 Thread golinux
On 2020-12-04 14:25, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:43:25PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > I have a lot of systems running ascii and no plan to upgrade them yet. I > don't want to upgrade when ascii is archived but before. Do you think 6 > more months of ascii support a safe

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 04:05:27PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 12/4/20 3:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > "1989tiananmen". > > > a different password worked. > > maybe it's too common? did you try adding special/more characters? I don't normally use such weak passwords. The whole exercis

Re: [DNG] Oldstable and Archive timing expectations?

2020-12-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:43:25PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > I have a lot of systems running ascii and no plan to upgrade them yet. I > > don't want to upgrade when ascii is archived but before. Do you think 6 > > more months of ascii support a safe bet? > > You might want to have a loo

Re: [DNG] Oldstable and Archive timing expectations?

2020-12-04 Thread golinux
On 2020-12-04 02:26, Simon Walter wrote: On 12/4/20 10:47 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2020-12-03 19:39, Simon Walter wrote: Hi all, First of all, sorry if I missed this in the docs somewhere. I had a look around the website and particularly https://www.devuan.org/os/releases has no inf

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 09:59:01AM -0500, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 03:33:41PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > > What, specifically, gets installed as part of Devuan which you don't want > > to > > see there? > > As an exercise, try doing a minimal install via debootstr

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 5 Dec 2020, at 00:56, Adam Borowski wrote: > > First, an anecdote: to track sleep problems I have, I bought a cheapest > smartband, a Huawei one. It has almost no controls on its own, and it's UI > needs a dumbphone (Google or Apple infested) via Bluetooth. Because > $REASONS¹ I happen

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 12/4/20 3:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: "1989tiananmen". a different password worked. maybe it's too common? did you try adding special/more characters? So, hmm, how come a https connection gets intercepted by the Great Firewall? No hacking by the govt is involved here... if it doesn't

[DNG] Testing for beowulf 3.1 point release

2020-12-04 Thread Mark Hindley
Hello, The Devuan Developers are preparing for a beowulf point release (3.1). It would be very helpful to have the new versions of packages tested more widely. If you feel able to help with that and are prepared to debug any breakage with us, please - add beowulf-proposed-updates to apt sources.

Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)

2020-12-04 Thread Adam Borowski
First, an anecdote: to track sleep problems I have, I bought a cheapest smartband, a Huawei one. It has almost no controls on its own, and it's UI needs a dumbphone (Google or Apple infested) via Bluetooth. Because $REASONS¹ I happen to carry two phones, one of them such a dumbphone, with no IP n

[DNG] Obviousness (was: Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...))

2020-12-04 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
It makes me sad that this view is deemed 'contrarian'. As a sysadmin, I consider it obvious common sense. I have no idea if it is contrarian or if it is the silent majority of opinions. However the opinion being more vocal definitely seems to be the one encouraging TLS encryption. The most vo

Re: [DNG] samba/NAS box problem

2020-12-04 Thread Simon Walter
On 12/4/20 11:47 AM, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Am 4. Dezember 2020 02:19:42 MEZ schrieb Simon Walter : >> On 2020-12-02 02:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: >> ... >>> You can 'nmap --script smb-protocols ' for a list of supported >>> versions. >>> >>> libre Grüße, >>> Florian >> Hi Flori

Re: [DNG] Oldstable and Archive timing expectations?

2020-12-04 Thread Simon Walter
On 12/4/20 10:47 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-12-03 19:39, Simon Walter wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> First of all, sorry if I missed this in the docs somewhere. I had a look >> around the website and particularly https://www.devuan.org/os/releases >> has no info. >> >> When can I expect olds