Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 11:04:00AM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 07/09/19 07:30, Mark Hindley wrote: > But it should use libpam-elogind. Perhaps we need to ban libpam-systemd > to force the use of libpam-elogind instead. The only thing is we need > to check if their is a dep version check on

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Hector Gonzalez via Dng
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:41 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > On 2019-09-06 07:33, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >>> Dear Dev1ers, >>> Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity >>> - especially for tho

Re: [DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)

2019-09-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 07/09/19 at 01:58, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 07/09/19 at 00:34, fsmithred via Dng wrote: >> On 9/6/19 5:43 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>> On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote: In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on libpam-systemd (and maybe libsyst

Re: [DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)

2019-09-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 07/09/19 at 00:34, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 9/6/19 5:43 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote: >>> In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on >>> libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) >>> >>> The version of udisks2 in beowul

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. > > The basic process is: > > 1) Install sysvinit-core (if you don't have it already), remove libnss-systemd >and reboot. > 2) Manually download and install devuan-keyring (wget, dpkg -i). > 3) change apt sources from buster to beo

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 07/09/19 07:30, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> Dear Dev1ers, >> >> Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity >> - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! > > I have just

Re: [DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)

2019-09-06 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 9/6/19 5:43 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote: In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in buster.   Really?  I'm on

Re: [DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)

2019-09-06 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on > libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) > > The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in > buster.   Really?  I'm on beowulf now, and I have: ii  udisks2 

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread golinux
On 2019-09-06 14:30, Mark Hindley wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: Dear Dev1ers, Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! I have just had a go

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Dear Dev1ers, > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity > - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. T

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread golinux
On 2019-09-06 07:33, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: Dear Dev1ers, Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! There have been report

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread golinux
On 2019-09-06 02:55, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Anno domini 2019 Thu, 05 Sep 23:27:03 -0500 goli...@devuan.org scripsit: Dear Dev1ers, [cut] Thanks for your feedback! What if this has already be done and worked without problems? Nik It would be helpful to know the process you used to d

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 9/6/19 9:05 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. ... Are there instructions already? Or is it the usual change the apt-sources, update, an

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 9/6/19 9:34 AM, fsmithred wrote: On 9/6/19 9:05 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. I could try crossgrading to beowulf befo

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 9/6/19 9:05 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. Would that help? It

[DNG] udisks2 - who uses it? (not a poll)

2019-09-06 Thread fsmithred via Dng
In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.) The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in buster. The version in buster depends on libpam-systemd OR libpam-elogind. (Also libsystemd0 OR libelogind0) Since we

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:00:08AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. > > I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. > > Would that help? It would not likely get any actu

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 9/6/19 8:33 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I've got buster on a partition I never use and was thinking of deleting. I could try crossgrading to beowulf before I delete it. Would that help? It would not likely get any actual usage to discover problems beyond the actual crossgrade itself. Yes, plea

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Dear Dev1ers, > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity > - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! > > There have been reports that the migration process from

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 09:55:26AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Thu, 05 Sep 23:27:03 -0500 > goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > > Dear Dev1ers, > > > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an > > opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 05 Sep 23:27:03 -0500 goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > Dear Dev1ers, > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an > opportunity - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be > released! > > There have been reports that the migration pro