Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 31/01/19 at 03:38, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >> Might interest someone:
> >>
> >> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/
> >>
> >> [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet
> >>
> >> His attem
Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> Hard to believe I listened to the same talk Corbet
>> is describing. What I heard was a propaganda piece,
>> finding reasons to sell the systemd approach
>> to BSD conference attendees.
>
> Not really. He points out there were good reasons to want a new init,
> that
On 31/01/19 at 03:38, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> Might interest someone:
>>
>> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/
>>
>> [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet
>>
>> His attempt to cast that story for the
>> pleasure
Where should I get the installer for the beowulf version that needs to
be tested now? I plan to install it on a spare partition of my hard
drive and hope the installed dual boot still recognises my existing
ascii partition. I will *not* be using a virtual machine.
I can test on two systems --
On 1/31/19 3:00 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I have firefox up with a number of tabs.
I shut wifi off on my Purism laptop by shutting off power to the radio.
I start up a new tab by clicking on '+'.
I ask to look at file:///home/hendrik by typing in the url bar.
Nothing happens. It's frozen.
I try f
On 1/31/19 7:50 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Simon Hobson - 31.01.19, 14:07:
>> Massimo Coppola wrote:
> […]
>> It's clear that systemd isn't the right implementation. And it's clear
>> that Poettering isn't the right person to be doing it. But I'd
>> suggest that many of us "systemd - just s
On 1/31/19 9:46 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
deb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free
Installing now..
and maybe also have a look at:
https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list
Actually did run across that page, but it didn't list "non-free" as an
option so wasn't
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 09:36:45AM -0600, hal wrote:
>
>
> On 1/31/19 9:27 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > You don't need to add Stretch- non-free. Just ass ascii non-free if
> > you must.
>
>
> Sweet! What should it be? The installer left this in sources.list but I
> don't have the CDROM in:
># de
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 04:27:05PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 08:49:25AM -0600, hal wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 1/31/19 8:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> > > What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some problem
> > > when the machine turns out to be running Devua
On 1/31/19 9:27 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
You don't need to add Stretch- non-free. Just ass ascii non-free if
you must.
Sweet! What should it be? The installer left this in sources.list but I
don't have the CDROM in:
# deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1]/ ascii main non-free
Tried deb
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 08:49:25AM -0600, hal wrote:
>
>
> On 1/31/19 8:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> > What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some problem
> > when the machine turns out to be running Devuan and not Debian?
>
>
> Yeah, my concern is that adding the Stretch
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 08:49:25AM -0600, hal wrote:
>
>
> On 1/31/19 8:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> > What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some problem
> > when the machine turns out to be running Devuan and not Debian?
>
>
> Yeah, my concern is that adding the Stretch
On Thursday 31 January 2019 at 15:49:25, hal wrote:
> On 1/31/19 8:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> > What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some
> > problem when the machine turns out to be running Devuan and not Debian?
>
> Yeah, my concern is that adding the Stretch "non-fre
On 1/31/19 8:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some problem
when the machine turns out to be running Devuan and not Debian?
Yeah, my concern is that adding the Stretch "non-free" will pull in a
bunch of dependencies for X (lord knows wh
On Thursday 31 January 2019 at 15:38:13, hal wrote:
> Is there an established way to get an Nvidia driver installed on Devuan?
> I've tried googling it but just end up getting debian info.
What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some problem
when the machine turns out to be
Is there an established way to get an Nvidia driver installed on Devuan?
I've tried googling it but just end up getting debian info. Thanks.
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On 2019-01-31 1:22 a.m., Rick Moen wrote:
As I'm (like you) an LWN.net subscriber, I can furnish a 'subscriber
link' for the benefit of Dng readers. Enjoy.
https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/777595/c64f9542bdd40595/
Thanks Rick, I appreciate this.
Reading it was like reading the incomplete logic
On 1/31/19 12:22 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
As I'm (like you) an LWN.net subscriber, I can furnish a 'subscriber
link' for the benefit of Dng readers. Enjoy.
https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/777595/c64f9542bdd40595/
Thanks, Rick. Interesting read.
Regarding systemd..If it were as grand as the su
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 03:22:36PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 1/31/19 12:32 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > This is a good step forward towards Beowulf beta. How far it is
> > depends also on how quickly we can identify and solve current problems
> > in beowulf. So please help testing.
>
>
> Than
Simon Hobson - 31.01.19, 14:07:
> Massimo Coppola wrote:
[…]
> It's clear that systemd isn't the right implementation. And it's clear
> that Poettering isn't the right person to be doing it. But I'd
> suggest that many of us "systemd - just say no" folks aren't
> fundamentally opposed to improveme
On 1/30/19 8:00 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
So I ask: Why should firefox need to access the net to look at the
hard drive in the laptop.
Using Devuan Ascii and the firefox it provides.
All I can think of is Possibly a DNS query is waiting. Try running:
tcpdump -nn -s0 -A -i wlan0_or_whatev
On 1/31/19 12:32 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> This is a good step forward towards Beowulf beta. How far it is
> depends also on how quickly we can identify and solve current problems
> in beowulf. So please help testing.
Thanks to anyone involved, this is very good news! :)
upgraded to newer policykit a
Massimo Coppola wrote:
> But I guess there's no need either to list all technical systemd issues here,
> or accept the unsound logic that unkind developers are the only reason of
> systemd criticism.
With all the hot air, I suspect that many people have lost sight of the
distinction between a
On 2019年1月31日 15:22:57 JST, Rick Moen wrote:
>Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
>
>> Might interest someone:
>>
>> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/
>>
>> [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet
>>
>> Tragedy, according to Wikipedia, is "a form of drama based o
Dear D1rs,
thanks to the efforts made by Mark (LeePen), Andreas (amesseer),
Centurion Dan, and Svante (gnu_srs), we have now updated policykit
packages for unstable and Beowulf (testing). Please help testing those
packages. In particular, if you are using Beowulf/ceres with the old
ascii polkit ve
Hi all,
I don't contribute often to the list, but I really found irritating that after
setting a cuckoo egg in the nest someone comes and start telling everyone how
much nice is the deviant bird.
I think Lars Noodén already pointed out, the news is that the target of systemd
propaganda is the
Il giorno mercoledì 30/01/2019 18:57:05 -0600
goli...@dyne.org ha scritto:
> On 2019-01-30 17:19, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > Might interest someone:
> >
> > https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/
> >
> > [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet
> >
> > Tragedy, according to Wikipedia,
On 1/31/19 4:38 AM, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> Might interest someone:
>>
>> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/
>>
>> [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet
>>
>> His attempt to cast that story for the
>> pleasure of
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