My bit of snark was marred by omitting the URL (drat):
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > They're time wasters for folks like you with the intelligence and Linux
> > knowledge to do a chroot install. I have a little less than the
> > requisite intelligence and Linux knowledge
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> They're time wasters for folks like you with the intelligence and Linux
> knowledge to do a chroot install. I have a little less than the
> requisite intelligence and Linux knowledge, so for me, having to trial
> and error installer programs a coup
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:58:56PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> >>> Of course they are, it's all over the Internet.
> >>
> >> Being pedantic, that’s not the same - and you **should** know that.
> >> IMO there’s a choice to be made - do we (collectively) want to be
> >> inclus
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 06:52:48 +0200
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> I do not use debootstrap for educational purposes but to bypass
> installer misbehaviour.For instance, I remember using it when the
> installer obstinately wanted to force me to use LVM (Logical Volume
> Management). This happened both un
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:18:06PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >> However surprising to any of you, this is my testimony. A statically
> >> configured interface present in /etc/network/interfaces was ignored
> >> **as installed by Devuan ASCII.iso**. Removing wicd fixed the
Am 2018-06-21 02:40, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:16:10 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
Bunsenlab has also a GUI program for adjusting fonts for Gtk.
Where can one find it ?
It's lxappearance
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Quoting Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org):
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:16:10 +0200
> "J. Fahrner" wrote:
>
> > Bunsenlab has also a GUI program for adjusting fonts for Gtk.
>
> Where can one find it ?
I'm guessing the intended reference might be to lxappearance, which is
actua
Quoting terryc (ter...@woa.com.au):
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought
> > up another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing?
>
> Give off. Its taken 40 years for me to be finally
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:16:10 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Bunsenlab has also a GUI program for adjusting fonts for Gtk.
Where can one find it ?
Cheers,
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought
> up another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing?
Give off. Its taken 40 years for me to be finally able to buy a 64bit
computer. I want to be able to
Antony Stone [2018-06-20 17:36]:
> No, I think Adam's point was that if you have a 686 kernel on a 386 machine,
> replacing it for a 386 kernel is easy (relatively speaking), but if you have
> the complete system binaries and libraries built for 686 on a 386 machine,
> replacing that lot is bas
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 at 14:07:51 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> And this is not at all elitism: it's just the humble admission that
> what is "True" for me might not be "THE Truth" for everybody, and that
> what is important, crucial, fundamental for me might be just bullshit
> for the rest of the world.
KatolaZ wrote:
>>> Of course they are, it's all over the Internet.
>>
>> Being pedantic, that’s not the same - and you **should** know that.
>> IMO there’s a choice to be made - do we (collectively) want to be inclusive
>> and support all those who don’t know much about computing but want to tr
Steve Litt wrote:
>> However surprising to any of you, this is my testimony. A statically
>> configured interface present in /etc/network/interfaces was ignored
>> **as installed by Devuan ASCII.iso**. Removing wicd fixed the
>> problem. What other conclusion can reasonably be drawn but that wicd
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:17:38PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400, Steve wrote in message
> <20180620151628.0e132...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
>
> > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought
> > up another question in my mind: When will we hav
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:36:26 +0100, Antony wrote in message
<201806201636.26513.antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it>:
> On Wednesday 20 June 2018 at 16:27:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:21:21 +0200, Adam wrote in message
> >
> > <20180620102121.flczbaznhl3mh...@angband.pl>:
On 06/19/2018 05:16 PM, Ozi Traveller wrote:
Hi
Are the 32bit images 586 or 686?
I think the Jessie images were 586.
ozi
I'm using i386 Jessie Devuan on my old ThinkPad A31, I call it my Tank,
works swell in kind of a lazy way and I enjoy using it, but I'm a linux
tester and have many comp
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400, Steve wrote in message
<20180620151628.0e132...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
> There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought
> up another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing?
>
>
> 1971: 4bit: Intel 4004
> 1974: 8bit: Inte
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:16:28PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought up
> another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing?
>
>
> 1971: 4bit: Intel 4004
> 1974: 8bit: Intel 8080
> 1978: 16bit: Intel 8086
> 1985: 32bit
There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought up
another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing?
1971: 4bit: Intel 4004
1974: 8bit: Intel 8080
1978: 16bit: Intel 8086
1985: 32bit: Intel 20386
2003: 64bit: AMD Opteron / Pentium 4 EO revision
When are we
Quoting Erik Christiansen (dva...@internode.on.net):
> On 20.06.18 12:04, Simon Hobson wrote:
> > FWIW, even technical users can lack what some may think is “really
> > basic knowledge” - I fell that the most important thing I’ve learned
> > over the years is just how much I don’t know !
>
> Desp
On Wednesday 20 June 2018 at 16:27:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:21:21 +0200, Adam wrote in message
>
> <20180620102121.flczbaznhl3mh...@angband.pl>:
> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 07:09:12AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> > > El 20/06/18 a las 02:16, Ozi Traveller escribió:
> > > > Ar
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:21:21 +0200, Adam wrote in message
<20180620102121.flczbaznhl3mh...@angband.pl>:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 07:09:12AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> > El 20/06/18 a las 02:16, Ozi Traveller escribió:
> > > Are the 32bit images 586 or 686?
> > >
> > > I think the Jessie images
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 23:15:21 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20180620031521.ga15...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:06:12PM -0400, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> >
> > As a Linux user for over two decades I don't think twice about
> > adding the applications I want and dumping the ones
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 07:08:36AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> At one time there were comments that not all packages were available on
> amd64. Even today that can be true, especially for some third party
> stuff. To wit, a prominent manufacturer of amateur radio equipment
> offers utilities fo
On 20.06.18 14:07, KatolaZ wrote:
> I will continue telling people what I think they should know, but the
> only way out of ignorance is knowledge, awareness, and individual
> action. You can't force people to get interested, to learn, to become
> responsible, to understand, to agree with you, to e
At one time there were comments that not all packages were available on
amd64. Even today that can be true, especially for some third party
stuff. To wit, a prominent manufacturer of amateur radio equipment
offers utilities for its hardware for Linux in addition to the other
two, but the Linux ve
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:04:32PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
> >> The problem is that people are not told why they should away from i386, and
> >
> > Of course they are, it's all over the Internet.
>
> Being pedantic, that’s not the same - and you **should** know
On 20.06.18 12:04, Simon Hobson wrote:
> FWIW, even technical users can lack what some may think is “really
> basic knowledge” - I fell that the most important thing I’ve learned
> over the years is just how much I don’t know !
Despite using *nix exclusively for three decades now, linux for around
Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
>> The problem is that people are not told why they should away from i386, and
>
> Of course they are, it's all over the Internet.
Being pedantic, that’s not the same - and you **should** know that.
IMO there’s a choice to be made - do we (collectively) want to be inc
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:14:37PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..also possible to e.g. have i386 installer kernels test the cpu etc
> hardware and go "Hey, your cpu can run the i586 kernel, upgrade?"
Sounds like a great idea!
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 07:52:51PM +0200, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote:
> I wrote a bash completion script for the pgcli utility, a command line
> interface for Postgres - https://www.pgcli.com/
>
> I would like to get it included in the official package.
> Shall I report a wishlist bug for Devuan or f
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 07:09:12AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> El 20/06/18 a las 02:16, Ozi Traveller escribió:
> > Are the 32bit images 586 or 686?
> >
> > I think the Jessie images were 586.
>
> linux-4.9.x is built in 686 and 686-pae
And more importantly, userland packages are built using 686 i
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:06:12PM -0400, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
>
> As a Linux user for over two decades I don't think twice about
> adding the applications I want and dumping the ones I don't,
As a Linux user for over two decades I feel the same way, with one
proviso:
Provided I have a cl
Le 20/06/2018 à 03:07, Steve Litt a écrit :
What tends to leave a lasting impression with me is whether the
desktop environment, its applications and controls feel like a
cooperative, cohesive experience or like a jumble of individual tools
tha
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