Am 2017-04-13 04:32, schrieb Hendrik Boom:
Devuan is about choice. Therefore, it should make available (1) the
choice to do without systemd and (2) the choice to use systemd.
This is impossible with a binary distribution. systemd is not only an
init system, it pervades the whole system. You c
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 22:32:32 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:13:46PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 04/12/2017 11:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > Systemd actively sabotages the ability to replace it, whereas no
> > > other inits do that (that I know
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
[...]
> We support potential devuan users who wish option (2) by having them use
> Debian's installer, Debian's packages, and Debian's mailing lists, all
> available directly from Debian's mirrors.
Well and fairly stated, IMO.
I'll also ask: Has s
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:13:46PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>
> On 04/12/2017 11:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > [...]
> > Systemd actively sabotages the ability to replace it, whereas no
> > other inits do that (that I know of). It would be stupid of Devuan to
> > allow systemd into their softwa
On 04/12/2017 11:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> [...]
> Systemd actively sabotages the ability to replace it, whereas no
> other inits do that (that I know of). It would be stupid of Devuan to
> allow systemd into their software.
Wouldn't it also be kind of undoing the whole reason that the original
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
> As sudo can be made to operate either requiring the user to type his
> own password or no password, stating (now) that just "a particular usage
> model" of sudo constiutes a proxy for the superuser's password can only
> refer to the case th
Il 12/04/2017 03:32, Rick Moen ha scritto:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
>
>> I argued against the assertion by Rick Moen that sudo constitutes "a
>> proxy for the root password"...
> I did not so state.
>
> I characterised a particular usage model of sudo as such.
As s
On 12.04.2017 17:58, Steve Litt wrote:
> I have no knowledge of the origin of this thread, probably having to do
> with my .procmailrc /dev/nulling certain people. But I have a very
> clear message about this thread's subject: There's no place in Devuan
> for init system agnosticism if such agnost
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Jaromil wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > I am up to include a workaround to the
> > long-standing samba version conflict problem.
>
> yep. apparently the only solution we have for now is pinning.
update on this: we are rolling out an "hot fix" on the ampro
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Steve Litt wrote:
> Systemd actively sabotages the ability to replace it, whereas no
> other inits do that (that I know of). It would be stupid of Devuan
> to allow systemd into their software.
we go even further Steve: we will also not allow the systemd hooligans
to interfe
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 08:29:00 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:41:23AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT
> consult wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> >
> > FYI: just posted that to debian-devel.
> > What's your opponion on that ?
> >
> >
>
> "...They have taken the bridge and the sec
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, KatolaZ wrote:
> I am up to include a workaround to the
> long-standing samba version conflict problem.
yep. apparently the only solution we have for now is pinning.
its a bit of a pity since Devuan Jessie is adamantine: thanks to
Nextime's work on Amprolla (being maintained
Hi folks,
we are trying to bash the outstanding Balrog...ehm...bugs for the
Release Candidate. I am up to include a workaround to the
long-standing samba version conflict problem.
Please join #devuan-dev asap to help testing.
Thanks
KatolaZ
--
[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Frea
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
>
> > "...They have taken the bridge and the second hall. We have barred the
> > gates but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes, drums... drums
> > in the deep. We cannot get out. A shadow lurks in the dark. W
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> "...They have taken the bridge and the second hall. We have barred the
> gates but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes, drums... drums
> in the deep. We cannot get out. A shadow lurks in the dark. We can not
> get out... they are coming"
http
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:41:23AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
>
> FYI: just posted that to debian-devel.
> What's your opponion on that ?
>
>
"...They have taken the bridge and the second hall. We have barred the
gates but cannot hold them for long. The groun
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