Steve Litt writes:
I'm not sure the preceding sentence yields a mutual exclusivity, but
yes, I really would like that history lesson, as this is something that
has bothered me for a long time.
The WM is regulated by the ICCCP, which basically talks about how windows
interact with each other an
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:05:01AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I see you receive the digest version of this list's posts. Many people
> do. People on the digest have a responsibility to change the subject
> line to the subject of the post to which they're responding. They also
> have the responsibil
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:01:33 +
Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
> I'd like to see a long term focus on removing the entanglement with
> other invasive dependencies, particularly those which are likely to
> be folded into systemd in the future, and on staying true to the Unix
> philosophy.
>
> DBUS
I'd like to see a long term focus on removing the entanglement with other
invasive dependencies, particularly those which are likely to be folded
into systemd in the future, and on staying true to the Unix philosophy.
DBUS and PulseAudio are freedesktop backed technologies which are likely to
be f
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:31:24 -0400
Vaughn Kenny wrote:
> Linux mint mate desktop as far as I know works without systemd.
Hi Kenny,
I see you receive the digest version of this list's posts. Many people
do. People on the digest have a responsibility to change the subject
line to the subject of t
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:43:55 +0300
Mitt Green wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > LXDE and IceWM have pretty much identical user
> > interfaces and functionalities, except LXDE has a few
> > more peripheral utilities.
>
> And that is what makes it a DE.
Which brings us back to the original p
On 22/04/16 15:56, Svante Signell wrote:
On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 15:26 +0800, Brad Campbell wrote:
On 22/04/16 12:51, Joel Roth wrote:
Skype for Linux, OTOH, *is* stale (and last time I checked was
tricky to install) AIUI intentionally so due to Microsoft's
special love for Linux.
brad@bkmac
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 02:14:37PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> If that's your definition, then there is indeed a clear line of
> demarcation. And that well may be the definition.
My definition is that a window manager is somethig that interacts with
X useing the protocols X sets aside for windo
aitor_czr wrote:
> Here you are an example about how to build a
> gtkmm application using cmake:
[...]
Hey,
Let me put my two cents in. I wouldn't be using
both gtkmm and CMake. GTK+ by itself is not
very beautiful (glib), GTK+3 just sucks, but
gtkmm implements this using C++.
CMake is writ
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> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, Haines Brown wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 03:41:51PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote:
> >
> > > When you say installed debootstrap on a new disk, you mean the
Hi all,
Here you are an example about how to build a gtkmm application using cmake:
www.gnuinos.org/PrintPDF
This is the same example as:
https://developer.gnome.org/gtkmm-tutorial/3.20/gtkmm-tutorial.html#sec-printing-example
including some changes in the code. I'll explain them later.
The
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 03:41:51PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote:
>
> > When you say installed debootstrap on a new disk, you mean the host
> > OS? What architecture is the host and the 'target' disk, are they
> > different?
>
> Sorry I was not clearer. I mea
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 03:41:51PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote:
> When you say installed debootstrap on a new disk, you mean the host
> OS? What architecture is the host and the 'target' disk, are they
> different?
Sorry I was not clearer. I meant debootstrap installed a base system on
a new disk.
Le 24/04/2016 20:17, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:38:04 +0100
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Steve Litt writes:
I've never been afraid of sounding ignorant, especially when I'm
right.
Uhm.
One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless
distinction that never should hav
Steve Litt wrote:
> So, if I took dwm, packaged it with the fbpanel
> panel, an fbpanel config tool,
Why would you use fbpanel with dwm though,
the default bar is pretty hackable. Certainly, if
you need a window list, then why not, but since
dwm is a tiling window manager by default
(and mo
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:38:04 +0100
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Steve Litt writes:
> > I've never been afraid of sounding ignorant, especially when I'm
> > right.
>
> Uhm.
>
> > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless
> > distinction that never should have been made.
>
> I
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:12:18 +0300
Mitt Green wrote:
> I suppose, he meant that there's a fine line between
> a window manager and a DE sometimes.
Thanks Mitt,
What I really meant is there's a very fuzzy line. As I stated before, a
spectrum.
> EDE (Equinox Desktop Environment) includes only
When you say installed debootstrap on a new disk, you mean the host OS? What
architecture is the host and the 'target' disk, are they different?
Cheers,
chillfan
On Saturday, April 23, 2016 9:04 PM, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 05:46:10PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote:
>
>> If I re
hal writes:
> tilt! wrote on 04/23/2016 02:02 PM:
>> Am 22.04.2016 um 21:52 schrieb Rainer Weikusat:
>>> People who may not know it yet but who are (like me) prone to
>>> inverting two letter command names every once in a while might want
>>> to have a look at the sl package/ program.
>>
>> Unfor
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 05:53:38AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
>
> On 04/24/2016 12:57 AM, Haines Brown wrote:
>
> I downloaded devuan-jessie-i386-alpha4-netboot.iso and installed it on a
> key with unetbootin. However, it would not boot, and when I looked more
> closely at it I find tha
On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:08:10 +0900
Simon Walter wrote:
On 04/22/2016 11:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> >>In my opinion there's no magic line where things on one side are
> >>window
> >> >managers and things on the other side are desktop environments. I
> >> >think we can all agree that Unity, KDE a
Hi,
On 04/24/2016 09:26 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
Oh, and I claim authorship of the thing that Aitor agreed with: It was
me who said that, not KatolaZ.
SteveT
You are right.
Dng Digest, Vol 19, Issue 62 (message 4)
was a reply to your comment.
Sorry..., my bad :)
Cheers,
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Sorry Steve but there is a technical difference. l
> Wikipedia:
[...]
> Talking of ignorance is excessive; but let's try to
> disentangle things.
I suppose, he meant that there's a fine line between
a window manager and a DE sometimes.
EDE (Equinox Desktop Environme
tilt! wrote on 04/23/2016 02:02 PM:
> Am 22.04.2016 um 21:52 schrieb Rainer Weikusat:
>> People who may not know it yet but who are (like me) prone to
>> inverting two letter command names every once in a while might want
>> to have a look at the sl package/ program.
>
> Unfortunately it is not po
Le 24/04/2016 08:48, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:08:10 +0900
Simon Walter wrote:
On 04/23/2016 04:20 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
On 04/22/2016 11:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
In my opinion there's no magic line where things on one side are
window
managers and things on the other side are
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
People who may not know it yet but who are (like me) prone to inverting
two letter command names every once in a while might want to have a
look
at the sl package/ program.
https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck (package exists in the repos)
https://twitter.com/liamosaur/statu
Steve Litt writes:
I've never been afraid of sounding ignorant, especially when I'm right.
Uhm.
One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless
distinction that never should have been made.
I suppose I count as an old fart, because I was around twenty-plus years
ago, when it wa
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:00:21AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > > > > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de th
Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:00:21AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > > > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless
> > > > distinction that never should have been made.
> > >
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:00:21AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless
> > > distinction that never should have been made.
> >
> > The point at which I consider that it's no longer a w
Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless
> > distinction that never should have been made.
>
> The point at which I consider that it's no longer a window manager is
> when it starts to interfere with the conventions X set up.
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 02:48:24AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:08:10 +0900
> Simon Walter wrote:
>
> > On 04/23/2016 04:20 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
> > >
> > > On 04/22/2016 11:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > >> In my opinion there's no magic line where things on one side are
> > >
On 24/04/16 09:41, Daniel Reurich wrote:
On 24/04/16 20:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
On 24/04/16 06:01, Daniel Reurich wrote:
Hi Rowland
On 24/04/16 02:21, Rowland Penny wrote:
Hi, I am trying to install Devuan in a VM and it isn't working. I
created A Devuan VM midweek and it succeeded.
This ti
On 24/04/16 20:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On 24/04/16 06:01, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>> Hi Rowland
>>
>> On 24/04/16 02:21, Rowland Penny wrote:
>>> Hi, I am trying to install Devuan in a VM and it isn't working. I
>>> created A Devuan VM midweek and it succeeded.
>>>
>>> This time, when it gets to '
On 24/04/16 06:01, Daniel Reurich wrote:
Hi Rowland
On 24/04/16 02:21, Rowland Penny wrote:
Hi, I am trying to install Devuan in a VM and it isn't working. I
created A Devuan VM midweek and it succeeded.
This time, when it gets to 'Configure the package manager' it seems
to set up the package
On 04/24/2016 08:48 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:08:10 +0900
Simon Walter wrote:
On 04/23/2016 04:20 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
On 04/22/2016 11:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
In my opinion there's no magic line where things on one side are
window
managers and things on the other side ar
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