Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi All, As I use gmail's old webmail interface, I would appreciate as to how to properly quote previous mails so that the format is standard. Thanks On 14/12/2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > On 13 Dec 2015 Aitor wrote: > Creating a 'netman.desktop' file in '/etc/xdg/autostart' directory, >

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, On 13 Dec 2015 Aitor wrote: Creating a 'netman.desktop' file in '/etc/xdg/autostart' directory, netman will start automatically. I am thinking about making autostarting and connecting automatically to wifi optional during the installation process of netman. This means, I need to write a post

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 15, Issue 37

2015-12-13 Thread William C Vaughan
>> > > >> >But of course in 2015, my response is offtopic. > > Abend 0C7 (or 0CB) anyone ? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ron. > > -- Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but > > that's not why we do it. -- Richard F

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:33:37PM +, dan pridgeon wrote: > Its unfortunate that one cannot highlight the portion that one wishes to > respond to, right click on the selected portion, and click "Respond" and have > the editor do the rest of the work. My email client (mutt) does not have such

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread dan pridgeon
Its unfortunate that one cannot highlight the portion that one wishes to respond to, right click on the selected portion, and click "Respond" and have the editor do the rest of the work. From: Steve Litt To: dng@lists.dyne.org Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [DNG]

Re: [DNG] Pointer error in the backend of Netman

2015-12-13 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Ron, On 12/13/2015 10:48 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: *p = 5 > > > >is undefined behaviour. > >Not in the good old days. Anyone remember DOS' infamous B800 address? > >But of course in 2015, my response is offtopic. Abend 0C7 (or 0CB) anyone ? Cheers, Ron. -- Physics is like sex:

Re: [DNG] netman building using dpkg-buildpackage

2015-12-13 Thread aitor_czr
On 12/13/2015 10:48 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi Aitor, Can I copy the netman.desktop you provided for the version of netman you debianized onhttp://gnuinos.org/netman/? You mentioned this repo in an email you sent on 11 November 2015. Can I also use part of the post installation shell script yo

Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
fsmithred wrote: When I built the package, there were some warnings about things like uninitialized variables, unused variables, etc. If you want to see the debuild output, I could send it to you. Hi fsmithred, In Lazarus/Delphi Pascal it is normal that the Sender variable is not used in every ev

Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
fsmithred wrote: Sample netman.desktop: [Desktop Entry] Categories=Application;Network; Exec=netman GenericName=Netman Icon=netman Name=Netman Network Manager Comment=Start netman without system tray icon Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Network; netman-gui.install: netman /usr/bin/

Re: [DNG] netman building using dpkg-buildpackage

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
On 13 December 2015 Aitor wrote: > I suggest you to do it in the upstream branch (i.e. from the point of view of > a developer). On 11 November 2015 Aitor wrote: > I updated also the packages: > http://gnuinos.org/netman/ Hi Aitor, Can I copy the netman.desktop you provided for the version of

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:10:42 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > But if I try (hard) to be charitable, what he actually says is that > certain styles of writing *shout* indifference and selfishness. > He could merely warning nice, attentive people that theit writing > styles adversely affect the way the

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:28:06 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > On gmail threads text is automatically quoted: I have no option about > that, other than selectively quoting parts. Selectively quoting parts is precisely what should be done by every poster, whether they're on gmail, mutt,

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Ron
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:18:25 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > And once again, let me summarize: On mailing lists, the priority is > *clarity*, which is best achieved with interleave-posting. Bottom > posting is compatible with interleave posting: Top posting is not, and > throws all descendants of the t

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 19:26:50 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi Svante, > > I think, it is irritating to first having to scroll down text others > have written rather than the text the latest poster has written. If > the latest poster wants his readers to refer to ealier posts, he can > state that

Re: [DNG] Pointer error in the backend of Netman

2015-12-13 Thread Ron
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 13:25:02 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > *p = 5 > > > > is undefined behaviour. > > Not in the good old days. Anyone remember DOS' infamous B800 address? > > But of course in 2015, my response is offtopic. Abend 0C7 (or 0CB) anyone ? Cheers, Ron. -- Ph

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
kato...@freaknet.org writes: my nickname is actually KatolaZ, as written at the bottom of all my emails :) On top of that, if you would have bottom-quoted my message, you would have noted that my personal rant was followed by "IMHO", which is short for "In My Humble Opinion". It was labelled h

Re: [DNG] Pointer error in the backend of Netman

2015-12-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:28:15 + Rainer Weikusat wrote: > *p = 5 > > is undefined behaviour. Not in the good old days. Anyone remember DOS' infamous B800 address? But of course in 2015, my response is offtopic. SteveT Steve Litt November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 07:10:42AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:57:29PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Dear Katola, > > > > Would you please refrain from writing insults as these truly prove > > '"indifference" and "selfishness"'? Why would anyone resort to > > bullyin

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:57:29PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Dear Katola, > > Would you please refrain from writing insults as these truly prove > '"indifference" and "selfishness"'? Why would anyone resort to > bullying tactics to psychologically manipulate those who see an issue > different

Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.

2015-12-13 Thread fsmithred
On 12/12/2015 04:58 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they > are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little > contribution to the project. > > Edward > ___ Edwar

Re: [DNG] netman building using dpkg-buildpackage

2015-12-13 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Edward, On 12/13/2015 11:49 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: The uploaded latest commit does not provide a way to confugure netman so that it starts automatically as soon as one logs into a DE or WM. You need to add a netman.desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart. I suggest you to do it in the upstre

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 01:40:30PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi Hendrik, > > Then, what is wrong with my writing style? Be aware that more often > than not, after many hours struggling with code and compilers, I am > usually too tired to write highly logical and appealing emails. > Furthermor

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi Hendrik, Then, what is wrong with my writing style? Be aware that more often than not, after many hours struggling with code and compilers, I am usually too tired to write highly logical and appealing emails. Furthermore, if I leave writing an email for the next day, I will have forgotten what

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:57:29PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Dear Katola, > > Would you please refrain from writing insults as these truly prove > '"indifference" and "selfishness"'? Why would anyone resort to > bullying tactics to psychologically manipulate those who see an issue > different

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
Dear Katola, Would you please refrain from writing insults as these truly prove '"indifference" and "selfishness"'? Why would anyone resort to bullying tactics to psychologically manipulate those who see an issue differently? Edward On 13/12/2015, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:3

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:30:47AM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > shraptor wrote: > > > I must admit I am really clueless to what is considered good practice in > > mailing-lists. > ... > > I am not rude on purpose but I truly don't know mailing-list style of > > interaction. > > Should I delete

Re: [DNG] netman building using dpkg-buildpackage

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi Aitor, I 'git pushed' as usual. So, the repository is the same one I have been using since I started working on netman. The repository is git.devuan.org and you can find netman by clicking: https://git.devuan.org/edbarx/netman As I am not a packager and my experience packaging is very limited,

Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.

2015-12-13 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Hendrik, El 12/12/15 22:24, Hendrik Boom escribió: On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:58:03PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: >Hi, > >I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they >are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little >contribution to the proj

Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.

2015-12-13 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, netman can be started using --auto-conn parameter to automatically connect when it runs. The parameter also configures netman to allow to connect every two or three minutes when a connection breaks. Edward On 12/12/2015, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:58:03PM +0100, Edward

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-13 Thread Simon Hobson
shraptor wrote: > I must admit I am really clueless to what is considered good practice in > mailing-lists. ... > I am not rude on purpose but I truly don't know mailing-list style of > interaction. > Should I delete this or keep this? Write here or write there? In "days of old" it was accepte