Hi, I'm just a lurker on the Devuan mailing list, and after the posts the last few days just want to make a suggestion. You are all doing prodigious things in configuring a downstream version of one of the oldest linux distributions. Keep doing that, and when things get stressful and a bit out of sorts and you get irritated and whatnot, take deep breaths, go smell the proverbial roses for a while, get some sleep, and stop vilifying your colleagues. Internal dissension is how you forked from Debian in the first place. Chill, and keep up the good work. I now will go back to lurk mode. Best for the holiday season. I am appreciative of reading of Devuan's development, and want it to succeed.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 5:33 PM, <dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org> wrote: > Send Dng mailing list submissions to > dng@lists.dyne.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > dng-ow...@lists.dyne.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Dng digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pushed my debianized netman sources. (Edward Bartolo) > 2. Re: Pushed my debianized netman sources. (Edward Bartolo) > 3. Re: netman building using dpkg-buildpackage (aitor_czr) > 4. Re: Pointer error in the backend of Netman (aitor_czr) > 5. Re: top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of > netman. (dan pridgeon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:21:54 +0100 > From: Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> > To: fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> > Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources. > Message-ID: > < > cakenem4dhygab_wuy8ac-zgqqt0kghrgrkbxybrg11ca9fl...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > fsmithred wrote: > > Sample netman.desktop: > > [Desktop Entry] > Categories=Application;Network; > Exec=netman > GenericName=Netman > Icon=netman > Name=Netman Network Manager > Comment=Start netman without system tray icon > Terminal=false > Type=Application > Categories=Network; > > > netman-gui.install: > > netman /usr/bin/ > netman.png /usr/share/pixmaps > netman.desktop /usr/share/applications > > > Hi All, > > I created netman.desktop and placed it in /usr/share/applications as > requested. I also git pushed the changes. > > Aitor wrote: > Creating a 'netman.desktop' file in '/etc/xdg/autostart' directory, > netman will start automatically. > > Should I provide autostarting for netman as instructed just above by > Aitor? The netman.desktop launcher should also contain the --auto-conn > parameter for netman to autoconnect. > > Edward > > > On 13/12/2015, fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/12/2015 04:58 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they > >> are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little > >> contribution to the project. > >> > >> Edward > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > Edward, > > > > It may not be perfect, but it works. I got your latest sources and made > my > > own deb package. It installed and it runs. I did make a few minor > changes: > > > > Had to create an orig.tar.gz - debuild would not let me continue without > > it, even though I said to continue when it asked. > > > > Created netman.desktop and added a line to netman-gui.install to put the > > file in /usr/share/applications. See sample .desktop file below. > > > > Changed netman.ico to netman.png and added a line to netman-gui.install > to > > put the file in /usr/share/pixmaps. I changed it to png, because the .ico > > file wasn't showing up when I wanted to edit a launcher. > > > > When I built the package, there were some warnings about things like > > uninitialized variables, unused variables, etc. If you want to see the > > debuild output, I could send it to you. > > > > It did build without any errors, the deb packages installed normally, it > > runs, it auto-connects if I set it so in xfce startup applications. > > > > I think that's all. Nice work! > > > > -fsr > > > > > > Sample netman.desktop: > > > > [Desktop Entry] > > Categories=Application;Network; > > Exec=netman > > GenericName=Netman > > Icon=netman > > Name=Netman Network Manager > > Comment=Start netman without system tray icon > > Terminal=false > > Type=Application > > Categories=Network; > > > > > > netman-gui.install: > > > > netman /usr/bin/ > > netman.png /usr/share/pixmaps > > netman.desktop /usr/share/applications > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:30:45 +0100 > From: Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> > To: fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> > Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources. > Message-ID: > <CAKENem60+y2iBM-Sp2WNDqdWtPH7f2UUGiq7=GW= > kp4yvxr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > fsmithred wrote: > When I built the package, there were some warnings about things like > uninitialized variables, unused variables, etc. If you want to see the > debuild output, I could send it to you. > > Hi fsmithred, > > In Lazarus/Delphi Pascal it is normal that the Sender variable is not > used in every event handler. I can edit the frontend code to avoid the > unused variables warnings though. I hope will do so as soon as I can. > > For those interested as to why Sender is normally not used, the reason > is, Sender is the object instance that initiates an event. This means, > if I click a TButton, the generated OnClick event, has its Sender > parameter pointing to the TButton object instance. Sender comes in > handy when the same procedure (in C/C++ function), is used with more > than one widget in which case a programmer may change visual > attributes of the sender widget to indicate an event was sent and > handled. > > Edward > > Edward > > On 13/12/2015, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > fsmithred wrote: > > > > Sample netman.desktop: > > > > [Desktop Entry] > > Categories=Application;Network; > > Exec=netman > > GenericName=Netman > > Icon=netman > > Name=Netman Network Manager > > Comment=Start netman without system tray icon > > Terminal=false > > Type=Application > > Categories=Network; > > > > > > netman-gui.install: > > > > netman /usr/bin/ > > netman.png /usr/share/pixmaps > > netman.desktop /usr/share/applications > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I created netman.desktop and placed it in /usr/share/applications as > > requested. I also git pushed the changes. > > > > Aitor wrote: > > Creating a 'netman.desktop' file in '/etc/xdg/autostart' directory, > > netman will start automatically. > > > > Should I provide autostarting for netman as instructed just above by > > Aitor? The netman.desktop launcher should also contain the --auto-conn > > parameter for netman to autoconnect. > > > > Edward > > > > > > On 13/12/2015, fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 12/12/2015 04:58 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they > >>> are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little > >>> contribution to the project. > >>> > >>> Edward > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Edward, > >> > >> It may not be perfect, but it works. I got your latest sources and made > >> my > >> own deb package. It installed and it runs. I did make a few minor > >> changes: > >> > >> Had to create an orig.tar.gz - debuild would not let me continue without > >> it, even though I said to continue when it asked. > >> > >> Created netman.desktop and added a line to netman-gui.install to put the > >> file in /usr/share/applications. See sample .desktop file below. > >> > >> Changed netman.ico to netman.png and added a line to netman-gui.install > >> to > >> put the file in /usr/share/pixmaps. I changed it to png, because the > .ico > >> file wasn't showing up when I wanted to edit a launcher. > >> > >> When I built the package, there were some warnings about things like > >> uninitialized variables, unused variables, etc. If you want to see the > >> debuild output, I could send it to you. > >> > >> It did build without any errors, the deb packages installed normally, it > >> runs, it auto-connects if I set it so in xfce startup applications. > >> > >> I think that's all. Nice work! > >> > >> -fsr > >> > >> > >> Sample netman.desktop: > >> > >> [Desktop Entry] > >> Categories=Application;Network; > >> Exec=netman > >> GenericName=Netman > >> Icon=netman > >> Name=Netman Network Manager > >> Comment=Start netman without system tray icon > >> Terminal=false > >> Type=Application > >> Categories=Network; > >> > >> > >> netman-gui.install: > >> > >> netman /usr/bin/ > >> netman.png /usr/share/pixmaps > >> netman.desktop /usr/share/applications > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Dng mailing list > >> Dng@lists.dyne.org > >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:03:36 +0100 > From: aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> > To: Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> > Cc: dng <dng@lists.dyne.org> > Subject: Re: [DNG] netman building using dpkg-buildpackage > Message-ID: <566df948.9080...@gnuinos.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 12/13/2015 10:48 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Hi Aitor, > > > > Can I copy the netman.desktop you provided for the version of netman > > you debianized onhttp://gnuinos.org/netman/? You mentioned this repo > > in an email you sent on 11 November 2015. Can I also use part of the > > post installation shell script you provided in that same version of > > netman? > > > > Edward > > Yes, you can. > > It's the same version hosted in Gitlab. > > Aitor. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/attachments/20151214/ca0e3745/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:22:31 +0100 > From: aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> > To: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>, dng > <dng@lists.dyne.org> > Subject: Re: [DNG] Pointer error in the backend of Netman > Message-ID: <566dfdb7.9020...@gnuinos.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Hi Ron, > > On 12/13/2015 10:48 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI > <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: > >>> *p = 5 > >>> > > > >>> > >is undefined behaviour. > >> > > >> >Not in the good old days. Anyone remember DOS' infamous B800 address? > >> > > >> >But of course in 2015, my response is offtopic. > > Abend 0C7 (or 0CB) anyone ? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ron. > > -- Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but > > that's not why we do it. -- Richard Feynman -- > > http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- > > I preceded *p = 5 with "//" because it is not the right way, this is > the intuitive idea. > > Maybe, i am not a good teacher... > > Not so good as Richard Feynman and Lev D. Landau > > Vintage > > Aitor. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/attachments/20151214/43ea5164/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:33:37 +0000 (UTC) > From: dan pridgeon <d_pri...@yahoo.com> > To: Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com>, "dng@lists.dyne.org" > <dng@lists.dyne.org> > Subject: Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded > version of netman. > Message-ID: > <1842980502.470799.1450049617436.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Its unfortunate that one cannot highlight the portion that one wishes to > respond to, right click on the selected portion, and click "Respond" and > have the editor do the rest of the work. > From: Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version > of netman. > > On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:28:06 +0100 > Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > On gmail threads text is automatically quoted: I have no option about > > that, other than selectively quoting parts. > > Selectively quoting parts is precisely what should be done by every > poster, whether they're on gmail, mutt, or systemdmail. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques > of the Successful Technologist > http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques > > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/dng/attachments/20151213/fa04b997/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Dng Digest, Vol 15, Issue 37 > *********************************** > -- Move from rim to hub; know the wheel. - G. 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