Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Tobias Hunger
Am 31.08.2015 21:50 schrieb "KatolaZ" : > The sole fact that you consider anything else than systemd as "a > lesser" option[...] Hi KatolaZ, there are several inits (plus surrounding code like startup scripts) that do not require a hack like that. Systemd is just one of those and I am fully aware

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-31 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Unfortunately, the version of netman employing multi-threading is the also the best behaved one, and I think, I have a solution for blocking the execution of more than one thread, when the user clicks the same button more than once very quickly. I tried to get rid of threads as instructed, but

Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

2015-08-31 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 09:38:12AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Sorry, this thread became private my my mis-clicking on Icedove. > > Le 30/08/2015 22:37, Isaac Dunham a écrit : > >On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:58:59PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > >>Le 28/08/2015 04:28, Isaac Dunham a ??crit : > >>>

Re: [DNG] BUG: zombies increase while running netman

2015-08-31 Thread marc
> waitpid is async signal safe, hence, there's no reason the why the > 'throw the exit status away' loop can't run from the signal handler > itself (see signal(7)) for a list of other async signal safe functions). So this was a misunderstanding - I wasn't implying that he throw the exit status awa

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 20:59:24 +0100 Rainer Weikusat wrote: > KatolaZ writes: > [...] > > > Go conquer the world with your little software-engineering > > masterpiece, but please leave us poor cavemen in peace. > > The poor cavemen are the guys with the huge, elaborate stone tools > ... :-> No

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 20:56:33 +0200 Tobias Hunger wrote: > Oh, I am pretty happy with systemd and won't lie about that. I would > still like to see some competition going. > > And yes, any init system that needs hacks like the one tilt! is doing > for his display manager is a lesser one. O,

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Rainer Weikusat
KatolaZ writes: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 08:56:33PM +0200, Tobias Hunger wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> Oh, I am pretty happy with systemd and won't lie about that. I would >> still like to see some competition going. [...] > Go conquer the world with your little software-engineering > masterpiece,

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 08:56:33PM +0200, Tobias Hunger wrote: [cut] > > Oh, I am pretty happy with systemd and won't lie about that. I would > still like to see some competition going. > > And yes, any init system that needs hacks like the one tilt! is doing > for his display manager is a less

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread tilt!
Hi, On 08/31/2015 08:56 PM, Tobias Hunger wrote: > [...] > And yes, any init system that needs hacks like the one tilt! is > doing for his display manager is a lesser one. This is an outrage! I don't do "hacks", i perform highly qualified high-tech science development for the sake of future gene

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Tobias Hunger writes: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Jaromil wrote: [...] >> what really disturbed me is the arrogance of that definition "lesser >> init systems" which in general depicts pretty much the attitude of >> systemd hooligans, often scaling to full range trolling. >> >> "Lesser"

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 31/08/2015 20:56, Tobias Hunger wrote: Oh, I am pretty happy with systemd and won't lie about that. I would still like to see some competition going. That's pretty much the crux of the problem here. Nothing can compete with systemd on the same grounds, because systemd covers so much ground

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Tobias Hunger
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Jaromil wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2015, Tobias Hunger wrote: > >> > if that is even a legitimate account, >> >> Yes. Did we get to the point where we need fake emails to follow up >> on free software projects now? > > since none of your emails are cryptographically

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-31 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > I tried several ways to use grey-out buttons but there is a bug or > something that is preventing me. The only way I found is > multi-threading or simply leaving the main thread to wait for the > backend to finish its job until it becomes available to the user. > Multi-th

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015, Tobias Hunger wrote: > > if that is even a legitimate account, > > Yes. Did we get to the point where we need fake emails to follow up > on free software projects now? since none of your emails are cryptographically signed, noone can really tell if this is an impersonation.

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-31 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: > The only way that does not allow multiple similar threads is to allow > the GUI to become momentarily unresponsive. how about first changing the UI with a "processing..." sign and then make it unresponsive? then it would say at least that unresponsivene

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-31 Thread Edward Bartolo
I tried several ways to use grey-out buttons but there is a bug or something that is preventing me. The only way I found is multi-threading or simply leaving the main thread to wait for the backend to finish its job until it becomes available to the user. Multi-threading can allow the user to click

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-31 Thread Rainer Weikusat
"tilt!" writes: > Hi, > > been thinking about this for a while: > > It actually is correct that the frontend becomes irrepsonsive > when the backend does a re-connect or re-scan. > > When a re-connect or re-scan is performed, the old information > presented in the frontend is outdated, and the us

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-31 Thread tilt!
Hi, been thinking about this for a while: It actually is correct that the frontend becomes irrepsonsive when the backend does a re-connect or re-scan. When a re-connect or re-scan is performed, the old information presented in the frontend is outdated, and the user should not click around on it

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:11:01 -0500 > Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> And all along I thought a "dock" had to do with a place to put program >> icons on a desktop and that "docker" was a tool to handle it. I've >> ignored everything about virtual machines except for Virtual Box and

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:11:01 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: > And all along I thought a "dock" had to do with a place to put program > icons on a desktop and that "docker" was a tool to handle it. I've > ignored everything about virtual machines except for Virtual Box and > QEMU. > > Evidently, I n

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-31 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi Aitor, Please, wait until I give you the go ahead as I am trying to add a separate thread to take care of the backend. There are some bugs in the Lazarus' Visual Component Library that I have to bypass somehow. Edward On 31/08/2015, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Edward, > > I will try to debianize y

Re: [DNG] netman GIT project

2015-08-31 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Edward, I will try to debianize your project. But i not promise it will be soon. This week i am too busy. I also have two projects in my mind: libpqxx++ -> A migration to C++ of some features of libpqxx (postgresql) libhpdf++ -> A migration to C++ of some features of libhpdf (Haru)

Re: [DNG] BUG: zombies increase while running netman

2015-08-31 Thread Rainer Weikusat
marc writes: >> WaitOnExit causes the main thread to wait until the backend finishes. >> This means it will hang the main thread making the GUI irritatingly >> unresponsive. Thus, the only way out is to use multi-threading. > > Multithreading is almost always a bad idea, fortunately there > are ot

Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant/ifup integration documentation

2015-08-31 Thread Didier Kryn
Sorry, this thread became private my my mis-clicking on Icedove. Le 30/08/2015 22:37, Isaac Dunham a écrit : On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:58:59PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 28/08/2015 04:28, Isaac Dunham a ??crit : On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:29:31AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: what is missi