Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique

2015-08-18 Thread Peter Olson
> On August 18, 2015 at 2:23 PM Steve Litt wrote: > > Rainer --- Why respond to that guy. His very first post on our mailing > list, and it's nothing but word salad. > > SteveT I have this image in mind that word salad is what trolls eat, except that I've got it wrong. They regurgitate :-) Pe

Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique [Rant]

2015-08-18 Thread James Powell
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 00:07:36 +0200 > From: phi...@posteo.de > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique [Rant] > > Rainer, I'm sorry for posting the wrong quote header in my previous > message. Of course I was quoting "DStoicheff", not you. > > Best, > Philip > __

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 02:19:20PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 18/08/2015 12:49, Edward Bartolo a écrit : > >At the moment I am stuck trying to use sudo to run ifup from within my > >frontend. > Just in case, here are a few things I know about wpa_supplicant: > > wpa_supplicant does if

Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique [Rant]

2015-08-18 Thread Philip Lacroix
Rainer, I'm sorry for posting the wrong quote header in my previous message. Of course I was quoting "DStoicheff", not you. Best, Philip ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique [Rant]

2015-08-18 Thread Philip Lacroix
Am 18.08.2015 21:12 schrieb Rainer Weikusat: That's how System/360 worked (presumably), that's how VMS worked (presumably), that's how OS/2 and Windows worked and that's what systemd strives to become and it's not modern but stone-age conservatism: Everything which happened in the 1970s was a g

[DNG] X without udev

2015-08-18 Thread karl
I have succeded installing X without udev on a old thinkpad running funtoo. I "just" removed references of udev from: /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server/xorg-server-1.16.4-r1.ebuild /usr/portage/x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev/xf86-input-evdev-2.9.2.ebuild and then running emerge --regen emerge

Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2015-08-18 Thread karl
Wyatt: > Is there an up to date list of current mirrors, Don't know. > and instructions on how to become a mirror anywhere? > There's a forum post about it, but the links lead to empty pages on the git > wiki. Mirroring debian was/is easy, in the old time you used the perl script mirror, and l

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Edward Bartolo
Successfully connected to wifi with the frontend and backend communicating. But there are still problems regarding text capture. It will take more tedious debugging time... but in the end, it should work, hopefully. > On 18/08/2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> A) I am at the stage of trying to unde

Re: [DNG] Problem Installing Webmin

2015-08-18 Thread Rowland Penny
I have been looking for a reason to subscribe to this list and I have now found it. :-) You are correct it is a bug, but it isn't a Devuan one, Webmin doesn't know about Devuan, try adding these lines to /usr/share/webmin/os_list.txt # Devuan Devuan Linux1.0 debian-lin

[DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2015-08-18 Thread Wyatt Zacharias
Is there an up to date list of current mirrors, and instructions on how to become a mirror anywhere? There's a forum post about it, but the links lead to empty pages on the git wiki. -- Wyatt Zacharias ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mail

Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique [Rant]

2015-08-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:06:25 +0100 > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> DStoicheff writes: >> > I am positive this post will raise the blood pressure >> > of some, but it is long overdue >> >> [...] >> >> > I am of a certain age to have a working knowledge of IBM 360, >> > punch

Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique

2015-08-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:06:25 +0100 Rainer Weikusat wrote: > DStoicheff writes: > > I am positive this post will raise the blood pressure > > of some, but it is long overdue > > [...] > > > I am of a certain age to have a working knowledge of IBM 360, > > punched card accounting > > It's a pit

Re: [DNG] Linux-related critique

2015-08-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
DStoicheff writes: > I am positive this post will raise the blood pressure > of some, but it is long overdue [...] > I am of a certain age to have a working knowledge of IBM 360, punched card > accounting It's a pity that you haven't been able to come to terms with more modern developments, eg,

[DNG] Problem Installing Webmin

2015-08-18 Thread Craig Ferguson
This is the first time that I have ever used a mailing list.  I hope this works. I am unable to get the webmin_1.760_all.deb to install.  There is nothing noted in the syslog or messages log files, and nothing in the webmin log file (since it does not install).  I have tried using both the wget

Re: [DNG] Mission Creap

2015-08-18 Thread Riccardo Boninsegna
Il 08/ago/2015 04:12 PM, "Miles Fidelman" ha scritto: > I thought a primary motivation for Devuan was to NOT install systemd by default. It's a work in progress, and testing currently gets less effort than stable, but is actually more friendly to the anti-systemd cause for XFCE users (which is De

[DNG] Linux-related critique

2015-08-18 Thread DStoicheff
I am positive this post will raise the blood pressure of some, but it is long overdue for the Linux community to take an honest look in its respective mirrors. 1) I continue to see online posts about the value of open source software, cooperation, the good of mankind, blah, blah, without having

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Edward Bartolo
The Progress of My Coding Till Now: I am attaching two images of the GUI's main window and the only dialog. The GUI is programmed in Lazarus Pascal. The backend is in C. The code till now, although it doesn't do anything useful. -- #include #include #

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Edward Bartolo
Maybe setting "poStderrToOutPut" BINGO! That was it. Now it can capture the output even as root. I had a look at wpa_supplicant.conf and found it is an XML file having to do with dbus apparently. For the last five years I have been using ifup manually to connect whenever I didn't have a network

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > Maybe setting "poStderrToOutPut" > > BINGO! That was it. Now it can capture the output even as root. There's a predefined input stream available for capturing output on file descriptor 2/ stderr http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/fcl/process/tprocess.stderr.html ___

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Edward Bartolo
If there is a technical reason as to why not to use ifup, please inform me. On 18/08/2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Maybe setting "poStderrToOutPut" > > BINGO! That was it. Now it can capture the output even as root. > > I had a look at wpa_supplicant.conf and found it is an XML file having > to d

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Edward, I've never used Lazarus, origin in the missing Kylix C/C++ for GNU/Linux, at the same time origin in Borland C/C++and Delphi Pascal for MS Windows. I usually use QtCreator, and sometimes Anjuta. So, i can't help you. Anyway, i think thatfor your purpose the relevance is not in the

Re: [DNG] What's the diff between these isos?

2015-08-18 Thread Go Linux
Thank you for the explanations. I think I've 'got' it now. :) Please post the link(s) to the documentation when it's done. As always, I'm available to proofread if you feel the need . . . golinux On Tue, 8/18/15, Jaromil wrote: Subject: Re: [

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > At the moment I am stuck trying to use sudo to run ifup from within my > frontend. This testing phase is important as I need to ascertain > myself that the class I am using can actually capture CLI output. > > If anyone from Devuan knows of a Lazarus function that I can us

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 18/08/2015 12:49, Edward Bartolo a écrit : At the moment I am stuck trying to use sudo to run ifup from within my frontend. Just in case, here are a few things I know about wpa_supplicant: wpa_supplicant does ifups automatically when it connects to a wifi station. If an interface n

Re: [DNG] What's the diff between these isos?

2015-08-18 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015, Go Linux wrote: > I'm a bit confused - nothing new there. :) nah, you are a bit too much of a modest person. the confusion is not your fault, the problem is that documentation is still lacking on files.devuan.org. There is the README so far, but there should be more in ther

Re: [DNG] Bug in debian-installer

2015-08-18 Thread tilt!
On 08/18/2015 02:02 PM, aitor_czr wrote: Debian-installer creates in /etc/fstab lines like: /dev/sr0/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 depending on the used method (cd-rom or usb-stick). Those files are sup

[DNG] Bug in debian-installer

2015-08-18 Thread aitor_czr
Debian-installer creates in /etc/fstab lines like: /dev/sr0/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 depending on the used method (cd-rom or usb-stick). Those files are superfluous. The following postinstallation

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread tilt!
On 08/18/2015 12:49 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: At the moment I am stuck trying to use sudo to run ifup from within my frontend. This testing phase is important as I need to ascertain myself that the class I am using can actually capture CLI output. If anyone from Devuan knows of a Lazarus functio

[DNG] "jack-autostart" – Setup- and Start-Scripts for JACK

2015-08-18 Thread tilt!
Hi, I wrote a configuration script and a start/stop script to * configure applications to route audio i/o to JACK, o redirect ALSA playback/capture to JACK, o set JACK as default sink/-source for GStreamer. and * start/stop/check a JACK service as one of a desktop environment's "aut

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Edward Bartolo
At the moment I am stuck trying to use sudo to run ifup from within my frontend. This testing phase is important as I need to ascertain myself that the class I am using can actually capture CLI output. If anyone from Devuan knows of a Lazarus function that I can use to capture the output of an ext

Re: [DNG] Devuan 64 install: no root filesystem?

2015-08-18 Thread aitor_czr
Please, try the same process using: http://mirrors.gnuinos.org It is based on devuan, but the installers are different. Devuan installs all the *.deb packages in the target; while gnuinos mounts the filesystem.squashfs on it. Before com

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 11, Issue 62

2015-08-18 Thread aitor_czr
Please, try the same process using: http://mirrors.gnuinos.org It is based on devuan, but the installers are different. Devuan installs all the *.deb packages in the target; while gnuinos mounts the filesystem.squashfs on it. Before com

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

2015-08-18 Thread Edward Bartolo
Lazarus frontend can now run external programs capturing their textual output. Hopefully, within a few days, the frontend will be Alpha. :) On 17/08/2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: > The Lazarus backend interface unit is as follows but still unfinished: > > >