Re: [Dng] Hal and Vdev

2015-06-15 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 08:18:18PM -0400, JeremyBekka C wrote: > > Hi Jeremy, > > > I have a question about the deprecated program hal. We like to stream > > videos from Amazon.com but we need hal installed in order to make it work. > > The Hal Debian wiki says that it is being deprecated and it i

Re: [Dng] Hal and Vdev

2015-06-15 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 16/06/15 14:27, Daniel Reurich wrote: On 16/06/15 14:20, Daniel Reurich wrote: On 16/06/15 12:18, JeremyBekka C wrote: Hi Jeremy, I have a question about the deprecated program hal. We like to stream videos from Amazon.com but we need hal installed in order to make it work. The

Re: [Dng] Hal and Vdev

2015-06-15 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 16/06/15 14:20, Daniel Reurich wrote: On 16/06/15 12:18, JeremyBekka C wrote: Hi Jeremy, I have a question about the deprecated program hal. We like to stream videos from Amazon.com but we need hal installed in order to make it work. The Hal Debian wiki says that it is being depr

Re: [Dng] Hal and Vdev

2015-06-15 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 16/06/15 12:18, JeremyBekka C wrote: Hi Jeremy, I have a question about the deprecated program hal. We like to stream videos from Amazon.com but we need hal installed in order to make it work. The Hal Debian wiki says that it is being deprecated and it is being replaced by ude

Re: [Dng] Hal and Vdev

2015-06-15 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Jeremy, On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:18 PM, JeremyBekka C wrote: > Hi Jeremy, > > I have a question about the deprecated program hal. We like to stream >> videos from Amazon.com but we need hal installed in order to make it work. >> The Hal Debian wiki says that it is being deprecated and it is

Re: [Dng] Hal and Vdev

2015-06-15 Thread JeremyBekka C
Hi Jeremy, I have a question about the deprecated program hal. We like to stream > videos from Amazon.com but we need hal installed in order to make it work. > The Hal Debian wiki says that it is being deprecated and it is being > replaced by udev (https://wiki.debian.org/hal). Since vdev is being

Re: [Dng] epoch feature request

2015-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:48:00 +0200 Anto wrote: > I am not entirely sure what would happen if we purged sysvinit to > replace it with epoch, whether those packages will still generate > their specific scripts on /etc/init.d when we install them under > epoch or not. If they would still generate t

Re: [Dng] Hal and Vdev

2015-06-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 15 Jun 17:22 -0500, JeremyBekka C wrote: > Thanks James for pointing that out. I actually did not know that hal > is necessary for Amazon videos because of DRM. I found the solution > online and it worked but didn't know why. The fact that it deals with > DRM makes me a little nervous be

[Dng] Hal and Vdev

2015-06-15 Thread JeremyBekka C
>Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:28:28 -0700 >From: James Powell >To: Jude Nelson , JeremyBekka C >Cc: "dng@lists.dyne.org" >Subject: Re: [Dng] Hal and Vdev >Message-ID: eas28179685b28c0c08317d430b6...@phx.gbl> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >DRM is provided by libhal.

Re: [Dng] A nice candidate substitute to network-manager

2015-06-15 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 09:18:14AM +0200, Anto wrote: > For what I understood, that is not a hard dependency. I believe that > commit would only have an affect if systemd-hostnamed is running. Which is bad... how? I fail to understand how supporting systemd (vs depending on it) is a bad thing. The

Re: [Dng] epoch feature request

2015-06-15 Thread Anto
On 15/06/15 16:23, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:42:53 +0200 Anto wrote: On 15/06/15 02:41, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 00:36:34 +0200 Anto wrote: There is one thing that annoys me due to epoch only has a singe configuration file. I think you have done a lot more r

Re: [Dng] Readiness notification

2015-06-15 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 09:12:36PM +0200, Klaus Hartnegg wrote: > Am 14.06.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Isaac Dunham: > >Quite honestly, it really *does* matter to me that I can boot Alpine > >Linux on my netbook in ~5 seconds rather than the ~10 seconds > > Just a single issue caused by the complexity b

Re: [Dng] Jenkins build failures on build002

2015-06-15 Thread Jude Nelson
Thanks! Re-queuing it for build now... -Jude On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Franco Lanza wrote: > Anyway, it was a logrotate not running cleanly and a /var/log fill-up > the root fs. Now it's fixed > > -- > > Franco (nextime) Lanza > Lonate Pozzolo (VA) - Italy > SIP://c...@casa.nexlab.it >

Re: [Dng] Jenkins build failures on build002

2015-06-15 Thread Franco Lanza
Anyway, it was a logrotate not running cleanly and a /var/log fill-up the root fs. Now it's fixed -- Franco (nextime) Lanza Lonate Pozzolo (VA) - Italy SIP://c...@casa.nexlab.it web: http://www.nexlab.net NO TCPA: http://www.no1984.org you can download my public key at: http://danex.nexlab.it/n

Re: [Dng] Jenkins build failures on build002

2015-06-15 Thread Franco Lanza
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 03:02:21PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: > > For future reference, I'm not sure where to report errors like on GitLab. > Is there a preferred issue tracker for Jenkins-related bugs? Report it on the devuan-infrastructure project > Thanks, > Jude > ___

Re: [Dng] Readiness notification

2015-06-15 Thread Klaus Hartnegg
Am 14.06.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Isaac Dunham: Quite honestly, it really *does* matter to me that I can boot Alpine Linux on my netbook in ~5 seconds rather than the ~10 seconds Just a single issue caused by the complexity by systemd wastes more time than all saved boot seconds can ever sum up t

Re: [Dng] Jenkins build failures on build002

2015-06-15 Thread Franco Lanza
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 03:02:21PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > I thought this was an intermittent problem, but repeated trials have > convinced me otherwise. > > Jenkins appears to be failing to set up its build directories for i386 and > amd64 when I queue the dbus packages

[Dng] Jenkins build failures on build002

2015-06-15 Thread Jude Nelson
Hey everyone, I thought this was an intermittent problem, but repeated trials have convinced me otherwise. Jenkins appears to be failing to set up its build directories for i386 and amd64 when I queue the dbus packages for building. The last console log for amd64, for example, is here: https://c

Re: [Dng] A nice candidate substitute to network-manager

2015-06-15 Thread shraptor
I have used Connman on my arch derivative OS never liked it I use the Puppy Linux program pEasyWifi and likes it very much. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94501 Don't know if it gots every wanted feature though?? It is lightweight! uses: GtkDialog, Xdialog, wpa_supplicant, dh

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 9, Issue 21

2015-06-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 05:46:03PM -0500, William C Vaughan wrote: > I don't know specifically about Devuan porting to to the iPhone, but it > would be marvelous if some sort of Linux could be ported to that hardware. It might be easier to start with Android devices -- at least they are supposed

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

2015-06-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On 15/06/2015 14:57, Steve Litt wrote: Just so I understand your answer in relation to my question, you're saying that "Start after" means "start sometime after", not "start immediately after". Right? Yes, exactly this. It's just a prerequisite condition: "b must start after a is started" an

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 9, Issue 54

2015-06-15 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
David Harrison writes: That's a mite harsh. For my ancient Brother HL5170-DN, Brother provide downloadable (sadly blob-only) deb and rpm packages. Not every printer manufacturer goes that far. For the record: All three of the Brother printers I've bought had/have good linux support, and I'll

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

2015-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:43:30 + Roger Leigh wrote: > On 15/06/2015 14:35, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:46:13 +0100 > > Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > > > > > >> I really appreciate upstart's way of declaring "start x after y". > >> (I believe systemd does the same, which I would li

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

2015-06-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On 15/06/2015 14:35, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:46:13 +0100 Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: I really appreciate upstart's way of declaring "start x after y". (I believe systemd does the same, which I would like if it weren't one of 500 features.) I've been confused about this for a lo

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

2015-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:46:13 +0100 Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > I really appreciate upstart's way of declaring "start x after y". (I > believe systemd does the same, which I would like if it weren't one > of 500 features.) I've been confused about this for a long time. I know that every service h

Re: [Dng] epoch feature request

2015-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:42:53 +0200 Anto wrote: > > > On 15/06/15 02:41, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 00:36:34 +0200 > > Anto wrote: > > > > > >> There is one thing that annoys me due to epoch only has a singe > >> configuration file. I think you have done a lot more research on >

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 9, Issue 54

2015-06-15 Thread David Harrison
On 15/06/2015 13:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Let me guess: You found blog postings by unixheads who had Brother lasers with postscript support and were happy, and based on that you bought an inkjet without postscript support? That's a mite harsh. For my ancient Brother HL5170-DN, Brot

Re: [Dng] Readiness notification

2015-06-15 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 15/06/2015 05:57, Isaac Dunham wrote: (3) Server uses "not-a-supervisor": # write a small C wrapper that forks, execs server in child, # accepts s6-style notification and exits in parent fake-sv -d 1 server client The main reason why I advocate such a simple notification style is that this

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

2015-06-15 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
LM writes: I've had a lot of problems with getting hardware working properly with Linux, so when I bought my last printer, I tried to do some research on what printers had support for Linux. As mentioned, Brother advertises support. So, I ended up buying my first (and probably last) Brother pri

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 9, Issue 21

2015-06-15 Thread William C Vaughan
I don't know specifically about Devuan porting to to the iPhone, but it would be marvelous if some sort of Linux could be ported to that hardware. My main gripe with closed OS devices like Apple productions is that eventually, regardless of the quality of the hardware, the company withdraws OS supp

Re: [Dng] A nice candidate substitute to network-manager

2015-06-15 Thread tigges
Jolla uses Connman and had a lot of trouble.. https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:votes-desc/tags:connman/page:1/ And for the AMD guy, Sailfish runs on ARM so it seems to be portable :D Greetz Tigges ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dy

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

2015-06-15 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Laurent Bercot writes: Authors *should* document readiness notification capabilities of their daemons. But then again, reality may be different. It's difficult to even know. It's _so_ easy to do things like logging the address of a client that connects and not think about having added a star

Re: [Dng] A nice candidate substitute to network-manager

2015-06-15 Thread Anto
On 15/06/15 01:04, Jack L. Frost wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:48:35PM +0200, Anto wrote: I just purged all connman files that I downloaded tonight. I think t is not worth trying to compile and install it. The title of the commit below clearly says that connman is definitely being locked-i