Re: [Dng] Puppy Linux, Devuan Puppy & hardware - Re: straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

>From my limited knowledge on licensing agreements, I think as long as there >are no restrictions on redistribution from the original people who provide the >firmware, it can be freely redistributed as long as the firmware isn't >decompiled or disassembled. I don't know, off hand, of any manufa

Re: [Dng] Need some advice to compile consolekit2 for amd64

On 05/06/15 07:49, Edward Bartolo wrote: I am trying to compile ConsoleKit2 source for amd64 but I am getting this error: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libdbus-glib-1-dev (>= 0.30) libudev-dev libx11-dev (>= 1.0.0) xmlto libpolkit-gobject-1-dev (>= 0.92) Is it safe to install t

[Dng] Puppy Linux, Devuan Puppy & hardware - Re: straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

I already posted a little about Puppy Linux in the past - but, it seems appropriate and particularly on topic to mention it again now, because, at least from my not-very-technical perspective, one of Puppy Linux's strengths appears to be compatibility with a wide variety of hardware, usually withou

[Dng] How to "official" package compilation for a newbie

Hi all, I always been "behind the scenes" of this mailing list because I don't have the experience in "how to do a distro" that most of you have (I'm more active on other things related to devuan). Anyway, I just ended to "de-systemd" a group of packages on my laptop (erlang) because I need it

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 11:36:09AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: None of the preceding arguments change the fact that if installing Dng appears to be a poorly documented 40 step manual process, the Well, if you have permission to distribute the non-free firmware for disc controllers or network card

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:36:09 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > None of the preceding arguments change the fact that if installing > Dng appears to be a poorly documented 40 step manual process, the > person will throw Dng in the trash and use Ubuntu or Windows. Also, > people who enjoy 40 step manual pro

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:54:54 +0200 Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 10:55:37AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > >I think one could always make the following argument: I have > > paid > >for a device which cannot work without the firmware; therefore what > >I paid for is a set which i

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 10:55:37AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: I think one could always make the following argument: I have paid for a device which cannot work without the firmware; therefore what I paid for is a set which includes hardware and firmware. Sorry but when I am not sure if this

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 02:41:05 -0700 James Powell wrote: > I think this might be the best option... > > Have firmware only for networking devices and scsi/sata/ide > controllers on the net installation disk. What about video? I've tried installing without a screen: It's problematic. SteveT Ste

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 01:13:51 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > Maybe I am the only one unable to see the problem in asking the owner > of hardware which requires some essential non-free firmware during > installation to put the required firmware on a USB stick during the > first boot. If the user has got a

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers (James Powell) --- form Re: Dng Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23

Hi all, I break my silence again for my two cents. I think we have a very good design in offering non-free firmware that is essential to complete the installation of the distribution, and ensuring that the end-user knows and explicitly consents. Offering two installation media distinguished in

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

I think this might be the best option... Have firmware only for networking devices and scsi/sata/ide controllers on the net installation disk. At least let the system support vectors be 100% or as close to 100% compatible as possible. If it is needed post-install the have it offered. Why? Devu

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

Le 05/06/2015 07:50, Isaac Dunham a écrit : > From a legal point of view, I would also carefully refrain from >redistributing any non-free firmware in Devuan, the main reason being >that usually you*don't* have the right to redistribute it, and even >if you have got this right from the HW co

Re: [Dng] Need some advice to compile consolekit2 for amd64

The lazy thing to do is just to run the "apt-get install" for the unmet deps. If any packages in addition to whatever you typed are pulled in, you will be warned and asked to continue: The following extra packages will be installed: libeudev-dev The following NEW packages will be installed:

Re: [Dng] Need some advice to compile consolekit2 for amd64

Polkit, Eudev, and dbus should be okay to install. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Edward Bartolo Sent: ‎6/‎4/‎2015 11:49 PM To: dng Subject: [Dng] Need some advice to compile consolekit2 for amd64 I am trying t