Hi Enrico,
ACLs act as whitelists that additionally let vdev equivocate about device
nodes to different processes, based on the user, group, process information
(PID, inode, binary path, SHA256), and requested device file. Let's work
through a few examples.
Consider the following ACL, which hide
I think this whole CLI - GUI thing causes a lot more polarization than
it should.
There are I'm sure a lot of people like myself who use the linux desktop
day to day, have no problem dealing with the command line or
administering a few boxes.
A lot of desktop users are long term geeks, nerds an
I'm an end user, mainly using Mint LMDE. I've been testing Jessie and
was disappointed to find the numerous bugs in systemd. Also the way so
many apps were dependent on Gnome and vice versa. I would favour "get
Devuan up and running with DEs/WMs" and offer optional desktops later
(preferably Ci
I see vdev as more of a medium/long-term solution. I'd create a
libudev-compat library that implemented the udev API, but I'd structure
vdev to expose the same information via the filesystem (so libudev-compat
would just perform the requisite filesystem queries for legacy
applications).
Jude
On D
> OTOH desktop users that will be attracted to Devuan will also be in
majority the same who also already renounced Gnome and Kde, their pomp
and their work, not to mention their bloat.
This.
> IMHO, if we're *technically* able to deliever GNOME, we definitely
should do that.
Disagree. They will
On Sun, 12/28/14, Jaromil wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Gnome
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2014, 5:49 PM
[snip]
>
> Let me remind you that DE does not mean just casual consumer grade use
> of a desktop, but also professional use, as in case of multimedia
> production. There
Am 28.12.2014 22:57 schrieb Klaus Hartnegg:
OTOH desktop users that will be attracted to Devuan will also be in
majority the same who also already renounced Gnome and Kde.
Very likely yes. But still the largest number of all is probably
server admins. Linux is mostly a server OS anyway, and des
On Sun, 28 Dec 2014, Klaus Hartnegg wrote:
> Am 28.12.2014 21:47, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:
> >OTOH desktop users that will be attracted to Devuan will also be in
> >majority the same who also already renounced Gnome and Kde.
>
> Very likely yes. But still the largest number of all is probabl
Am 28.12.2014 21:47, schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:
OTOH desktop users that will be attracted to Devuan will also be in
majority the same who also already renounced Gnome and Kde.
Very likely yes. But still the largest number of all is probably server
admins. Linux is mostly a server OS anyway,
I'm totally against the concept of a Debian fork with init freedom but without
DE freedom.
IMHO, if we're *technically* able to deliever GNOME, we definitely should do
that, even if the R&D costs are high. We should disinfect as many packages as
possible, even if that means we provide a slightl
On Sun, 12/28/14, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Gnome
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2014, 2:47 PM
On Sun, 28 Dec 2014
21:43:06 +0100
Klaus Hartnegg
wrote:
[snip]
> OTOH desktop users that will be attracted to Devuan will also be in majority
> the same
On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:43:06 +0100
Klaus Hartnegg wrote:
> > I understand that Devuan wants to give Debianites who use Gnome an
> > option to move smoothly to a systemd-free future (and stick it to
> > Gnome in the process). But does that have to be a top priority? Why
> > not get Devuan up and
Am 28.12.2014 20:34, schrieb Go Linux:
I understand that Devuan wants to give Debianites who use Gnome an
option to move smoothly to a systemd-free future (and stick it to
Gnome in the process). But does that have to be a top priority? Why
not get Devuan up and running with DEs/WMs that are not
You can't just switch to vdev, because many packages depend on libudev. Only
udev and eudev provide it.
eudev is the only realistic option right now, because it's a drop-in
replacement. Moreover, it's the only udev alternative with feature-parity.
By the way, I'm not sure whether vdev is ready
You can't just switch to vdev, because many packages depend on libudev. Only
udev and eudev provide it.
eudev is the only realistic option right now, because it's a drop-in
replacement. Moreover, it's the only udev alternative with feature-parity.
By the way, I'm not sure whether vdev is ready
There hasn't been much technical chatter on irc lately. dimkr was trying to
extract systemd from Gnome with mixed results. I understand that Devuan wants
to give Debianites who use Gnome an option to move smoothly to a systemd-free
future (and stick it to Gnome in the process). But does that ha
Nice setup. Darker than my normal but it looks good.
My installation of Trios
, with
OpenRC.
Here is a shot of my
initial
layout, or at least, todays:
https://db.tt/kqxtslIq
All in all, a very nice piece of work.
I was so looking forward to Jessie,
until the systemd fiasco.
Thanks for
Matthew Melton
m...@mjmworks.co.uk
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