Cal,
You are so right. I've always taken it as a rule of thumb that the
bigger a corporation is, the bigger and bloated their software is.
It's gotten to the point where I won't touch jobs with a ten foot pole
whose companies are built upon Microsoft products.
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Cal
On Sunday, February 06, 2011 02:54:23 pm Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
wrote:
> Interesting. See, when I compared Zope to Django, I found Django's
> extensive documentation and feature set to be perfect for prototyping, and
> then optimizing bottlenecks at a later date, either via C extension
Interesting. See, when I compared Zope to Django, I found Django's extensive
documentation and feature set to be perfect for prototyping, and then
optimizing bottlenecks at a later date, either via C extensions, raw SQL
replacement etc. However, as 'cliché' as this may sound, most large
enterprises
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 08:02:43 pm Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
wrote:
> May I ask, how well did you get along with Zope? From what I can tell,
> Django is suited for SME, where as Zope is the kinda thing that banks would
> be using etc.
Cal -
I just used Django to write a credit
To be honest, I've *never* been a fan of frameworks that try to merge every
language into one, like Ext JS, or HTML builders in PHP. Hell I don't
particularly like the 'widgets' in Django either :S I even once saw a PHP
project that builds HTML and JavaScript from PHP objects, it was absolutely
awf
Hi,
Plone (which runs on Zope) is not that unusual a CMS system for business. It
suffers from a lack of documentation like Zope but there is a pretty
thriving community behind Plone currently.
Certainly worth a look if nothing else.
CH
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Yeah, I guess I'll have to redact my comment about Zope.
I must say though, I've never been much of a fan of bloated frameworks
like this. I spent enough time being forced to maintain Cold Fusion,
thank you.
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, kojiro wrote:
> It would be a mistake to compare Zope t
It would be a mistake to compare Zope to Django. Django is a
lightweight, easy-to-learn, something-like-MVC framework with a built-
in ORM. Zope is a complex, rich, unabashedly pythonistic metaframework
with a built-in ACID compliant key-value store. Zope is neither a POS
nor unusually slow. Its hi
Well I was unfortunate enough to look up the official zope website,
and as I'm typing this it's STILL loading. Haha, I can see what a POS
it is and definitely won't be using it for any projects anytime soon.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 01:02
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 01:02 +, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
wrote:
> May I ask, how well did you get along with Zope? From what I can tell,
> Django is suited for SME, where as Zope is the kinda thing that banks
> would
> be using etc.
as long as one sticks to out of the box stuff and z
May I ask, how well did you get along with Zope? From what I can tell,
Django is suited for SME, where as Zope is the kinda thing that banks would
be using etc.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:
> I am a hobbyist programmer started with pascal and then perl. Loved
> perl,
I am a hobbyist programmer started with pascal and then perl. Loved
perl, but once I had to hire a programmer to do some enhancements that I
did not have time for - he did a good job, but after he left I found I
could not understand a word of what he had done. Then someone introduced
me to python a
Well, PHP does have its intended purpose and accomplishes its
objectives nicely. If you're building a one-shot, off-the-cuff
application with no forethought to design or scalability, then PHP is
great. It's not hard for novices to use (object orientation is
optional, etc) and uses a much easier to
You know, even if PHP had a framework like Django, I wouldn't use it. PHP is
clunky, has horrible code syntax, piss poor exception handling, awful
garbage collection, weirdly named functions, and just feels 'wrong'. And
don't even get me started on performance!
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Jon
KG,
I've been a PHP developer for years and haven't reached outside of PHP
pretty much ever. After writing the same code over and over and
over and over and over again and always dealing with the same issues
(tweaking the database through a database manager, writing admin
interfaces, not having a
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 08:56 -0600, Jon J wrote:
> > I just stumbled upon django when looking for a good way to use Python
> > in web programming,
>
> welcome to the club - btw, how did you manage to avoid stumbling over
> django all these
On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 08:56 -0600, Jon J wrote:
> I just stumbled upon django when looking for a good way to use Python
> in web programming,
welcome to the club - btw, how did you manage to avoid stumbling over
django all these years?
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I just stumbled upon django when looking for a good way to use Python
in web programming, and I must say, I'm extremely impressed. I have
dabbled in other frameworks such as Ruby on Rails but deemed it wasn't
worth the time because frankly, RoR throws a bunch of nonsensical
terms at you (rails, rac
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