To be honest, I've *never* been a fan of frameworks that try to merge every language into one, like Ext JS, or HTML builders in PHP. Hell I don't particularly like the 'widgets' in Django either :S I even once saw a PHP project that builds HTML and JavaScript from PHP objects, it was absolutely awful.
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jon J <urbanconfeder...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, I guess I'll have to redact my comment about Zope. > > I must say though, I've never been much of a fan of bloated frameworks > like this. I spent enough time being forced to maintain Cold Fusion, > thank you. > > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, kojiro <msmit...@naz.edu> wrote: > > It would be a mistake to compare Zope to Django. Django is a > > lightweight, easy-to-learn, something-like-MVC framework with a built- > > in ORM. Zope is a complex, rich, unabashedly pythonistic metaframework > > with a built-in ACID compliant key-value store. Zope is neither a POS > > nor unusually slow. Its history is inextricably intertwined with the > > history of Python itself. Some superb libraries and tools have come > > out of the Zope project, including both Plone and Repoze.BFG, now > > Pyramid. > > > > Let's not get any further OT, but please, keep the FUD off the list. > > > > References: > > > http://books.google.com/books?id=5zYVUIl7F0QC&lpg=PA1130&ots=HUb87eoQwI&pg=PA1130#v=onepage&q&f=false > > http://plope.com/bfg-becomes-pyramid > > > > On Feb 5, 10:50 am, Jon J <urbanconfeder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Well I was unfortunate enough to look up the official zope website, > >> and as I'm typing this it's STILL loading. Haha, I can see what a POS > >> it is and definitely won't be using it for any projects anytime soon. > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> <law...@thenilgiris.com> wrote: > >> > On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 01:02 +0000, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] > >> > wrote: > >> >> May I ask, how well did you get along with Zope? From what I can > tell, > >> >> Django is suited for SME, where as Zope is the kinda thing that banks > >> >> would > >> >> be using etc. > >> > >> > as long as one sticks to out of the box stuff and zope's own object > >> > database, things are dead easy - but the moment you want to fine tune > or > >> > use an external database - then things become hairy. Documentation > sucks > >> > big time - I see a lot of refugees from zope here. And bloat - dont > even > >> > talk of it. > >> > -- > >> > regards > >> > KG > >> >http://lawgon.livejournal.com > >> > Coimbatore LUG rox > >> >http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ > >> > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Django users" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<django-users%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > >> > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > > To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<django-users%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<django-users%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
