Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 12:45:07PM +0200, aristo...@tutanota.com wrote: > > > > May 22, 2021, 06:39 by mj...@srcf.ucam.org: > > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:32:02AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > >> Daniel expressed support for an election, but didn't volunteer to run > >> it, so I'll do

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread aristocat
May 22, 2021, 06:39 by mj...@srcf.ucam.org: > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:32:02AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> Daniel expressed support for an election, but didn't volunteer to run >> it, so I'll do so. I propose the following timeline: >> >> 2021-05-21: Call for nominations ends >> > > T

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
> The Debian vote about Dr Stallman had all the negativity of an expulsion. The corporate-backed Debianites appear to have fomented yet another schism in the free software community. We already have the "Free Software" and "Open Source" camps. What will this one be called? Nothing but the beheadi

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Debian Community News Team
On 22/05/2021 18:42, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: >   > > The Debian vote about Dr Stallman had all the negativity of an > expulsion. > > > The corporate-backed Debianites appear to have fomented yet another > schism in the free software community. We already have the "Free > Software"

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
> Molly de Blanc is the new Adolf Hitler > You give de Blanc & Co. too much credit. Hitler was not motivated by greed, but by a twisted philosophy. He was highly intelligent, and an artist capable of independent thought. Never, himself, the manipulated victim Hitler was a master manipulator. Yes,

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Whooopps! Sorry, Adrienne, according Godwin's Law you automatically lost the argument : ( Also, it seems to me that unlike many large, widespread, and popular social movements with millions of people making history, the Free Software cause is like a s

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Debian Community News Team
On 22/05/2021 20:06, Danny Spitzberg wrote: > Whooopps! Sorry, Adrienne, according Godwin's Law > you automatically lost > the argument : ( As the Wikipedia article explains, outright comparisons to Hitler are often nonsense but comparing specific

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Case in point, the "Debian Community News Team" email account is run by one person writing in what seems like their personal capacity and without community input, and the vast majority of messages on this list are from that person, Adrienne, Daniel, and aristocat. The obsession with Molly as the al

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Debian Community News Team
On 22/05/2021 20:15, Danny Spitzberg wrote: > Case in point, the "Debian Community News Team" email account is run by > one person writing in what seems like their personal capacity and > without community input, and the vast majority of messages on this list > are from that person, Adrienne, Da

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
Danny, > The obsession with Molly as the alleged root cause of the movement's > decline also seems quite desperate. > Who is obsessed with Molly? We are concerned with proxies for corporate vultures, not Molly per se. > Also, it seems to me that unlike many large, widespread, and popular >> > s

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 1:07 PM Danny Spitzberg wrote: > Whooopps! Sorry, Adrienne, according Godwin's Law > you automatically lost the > argument : ( > > Also, it seems to me that unlike many large, widespread, and popular > social movements with mi

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Debian Community News Team
On 22/05/2021 21:17, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > > Danny, >   > > The obsession with Molly as the alleged root cause of the movement's > decline also seems quite desperate. > > > Who is obsessed with Molly? We are concerned with proxies for corporate > vultures, not Molly per se.  >

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
We recognize the possibility that Molly was not acting alone and she was > manipulated or used as a stooge to create the Gemlich letter 2.0 > Yes, it's the puppeteers who we need to focus on in devising strategies to move forward, not the puppets. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! Refer

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
Danny, that was just a gentle reminder to be respectful of RMS here, whatever your differences may be. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: http://www.a

Re: Elections

2021-05-22 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 07:39:55AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Daniel, in order to ensure that people are aware of these plans and > that the community supports this approach, I'll need to be able to > post to the blog - could you please provide me with credentials? Ping? __