Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-01 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 23/07/2017 à 12:02, Theo Schmidt a écrit : There is a fundamental difference between proprietary platforms with their own proprietary protocols used quasi-publicly (like Facebook) and proprietary platforms usable with public (FOSS) protocols, like Gmail, and Email or "WWW", etc. in general. A

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-01 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 23/07/2017 à 09:37, Daniel Pocock a écrit : Actually, I have been thinking very seriously about blocking all email from gmail.com I think and dream about it too, but that would cut me from people that wouldn't change their mail ever, and I absolutely need to communicate with them. Another

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-01 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/07/17 01:28, Guido Arnold wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 25/07/17 14:56, Max Mehl wrote: >>> # Daniel Pocock [2017-07-25 14:37 +0200]: What is the value of 1000 new followers though? Are people actually switching to free software,

Re: FSFE in Outreachy?

2017-09-01 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 01/09/17 07:52, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > Re-posting the below, which ended up on the wrong mailing list: > > Hi, > > I don't know if it's okay if I add my five cents (adjusted for > inflation), but I'm reasonably well-read on this and adjacent topics, as > well as included in the list of mi

Re: FSFE in Outreachy?

2017-09-01 Thread Jonas Oberg
Hi Carmen, > I would be very against getting involved in this program, though I know > that the FSFE currently practises positive discrmination selection > standards for its internship program: Thank you for raising this. This was actually discussed a while ago as well, and I had just not committ

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-01 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/09/17 08:20, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > Le 23/07/2017 à 12:02, Theo Schmidt a écrit : >> >> There is a fundamental > difference between proprietary platforms with >> their own proprietary protocols used quasi-publicly (like Facebook) and >> p

Re: FSFE in Outreachy?

2017-09-01 Thread MJ Ray
Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > But I am unequivocally against such programs, on the simple grounds > that it tries to combat discrimination _through_ discrimination, > which is about as silly to me as trying to achieve world peace > through war. It generates envy/antipathy in individuals from gro