Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-19 Thread David Lapsley
On 6/19/06 8:49 AM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Back after a weekend trip w/o internet access ... > > On Jun 16, 2006, at 12:28 AM, David Lapsley wrote: >> I agree. This has been a really great discussion and has really >> helped to >> improve clarity and smooth some wrinkles

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-19 Thread Michael Dickens
Back after a weekend trip w/o internet access ... On Jun 16, 2006, at 12:28 AM, David Lapsley wrote: I agree. This has been a really great discussion and has really helped to improve clarity and smooth some wrinkles in the document, but we should probably bring this phase to a close and star

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-16 Thread Michael Dickens
OK, I'll bite. How does data get into or out of something with zero external ports? Via internal ports? So, e.g., a source could be made internal-only, and connect internally to other m-blocks, and eventually drop to an internal-only sink? Yes. Or it may not have anything to do with "signal

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread David Lapsley
On 6/15/06 7:06 PM, "Eric Blossom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:37:54PM -0500, Michael Dickens wrote: >> On Thursday, June 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Eric Blossom wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Michael Dickens wrote: > My theory on this document

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:37:54PM -0500, Michael Dickens wrote: > On Thursday, June 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Eric Blossom wrote: > >On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Michael Dickens wrote: > >> > >>Hmmm ... good point. In a dynamic system, ports could get dropped or > >>connected "on the fl

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread Michael Dickens
On Thursday, June 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Eric Blossom wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Michael Dickens wrote: Hmmm ... good point. In a dynamic system, ports could get dropped or connected "on the fly". Could you write a quick blurp about this, somewhere before 4.9? Maybe 4.6

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Michael Dickens wrote: > > Hmmm ... good point. In a dynamic system, ports could get dropped or > connected "on the fly". Could you write a quick blurp about this, > somewhere before 4.9? Maybe 4.6.8 or 4.8.6? > I think we're approaching the "poli

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 08:13:52AM -0400, Michael Dickens wrote: > On Jun 15, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Eric Blossom wrote: > >On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:51:05AM -0400, David Lapsley wrote: > >>On 6/14/06 2:24 PM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > >>>p68, 4.8.1; and p74, 4.8.4: How ca

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread David Lapsley
On 6/15/06 8:37 AM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 15, 2006, at 12:51 AM, David Lapsley wrote: >> On 6/14/06 2:24 PM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Also, the whole discussion of packet radio requirements doesn't >>> really fit into the GR baseline, and sho

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread David Lapsley
On 6/15/06 2:03 AM, "Eric Blossom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:51:05AM -0400, David Lapsley wrote: >> On 6/14/06 2:24 PM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> p68, 4.8.1; and p74, 4.8.4: How can an m-block have zero ports? I >>> thought that all data /

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread Michael Dickens
On Jun 15, 2006, at 12:51 AM, David Lapsley wrote: On 6/14/06 2:24 PM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, the whole discussion of packet radio requirements doesn't really fit into the GR baseline, and should instead probably be in 4.3, or at least elsewhere. Do you mean 4.5.2?

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-15 Thread Michael Dickens
On Jun 15, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Eric Blossom wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:51:05AM -0400, David Lapsley wrote: On 6/14/06 2:24 PM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: p68, 4.8.1; and p74, 4.8.4: How can an m-block have zero ports? I thought that all data / metadata / signals / wha

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-14 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:51:05AM -0400, David Lapsley wrote: > On 6/14/06 2:24 PM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > p68, 4.8.1; and p74, 4.8.4: How can an m-block have zero ports? I > > thought that all data / metadata / signals / whatever were > > transported via these ports

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-14 Thread David Lapsley
On 6/14/06 2:24 PM, "Michael Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave - Working on v3 of this document. There are some changes from > the previous version which greatly improve clarity! Thanks! Here > are some more suggestions, comments, questions, and thoughts. - MLD Michael, No problems.

[Discuss-gnuradio] V3 Comments on "BBN's Proposed extensions for data networking"

2006-06-14 Thread Michael Dickens
Dave - Working on v3 of this document. There are some changes from the previous version which greatly improve clarity! Thanks! Here are some more suggestions, comments, questions, and thoughts. - MLD p60, 4.2: "The Media Access Control (MAC) layer needs low-latency transmission control -