Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Daniel Sheridan
On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 23:16 -0800, da...@lang.hm wrote: > > When attending confrences in past years I have been frustrated at the > quality/reliability of the wireless access. In many cases it's been > clear that the person setting things up did not understand the effects > of many computers in a

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Offices on opposite sides of oceans

2010-01-12 Thread Tristan Ball
We've got a head office in Melbourne Australia with a site office in San Diego. Latency is a killer! Actually another one in Newcastle in the UK too - we get about 360ms RTT to that. :-) We're in the process of deploying the riverbed steelheads now, and they're amazing. CIFS still isn't "fast",

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Offices on opposite sides of oceans

2010-01-12 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Jeremy Charles wrote: > I'd like to hear from those who have had to manage IT resources for offices > that are located on opposite sides of oceans. > > Our primary challenge right now is this: Our original offices, and our CIFS > file servers, are located in Wisconsin, USA. We also have an of

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Shrdlu
da...@lang.hm wrote: > When attending confrences in past years I have been frustrated at the > quality/reliability of the wireless access. In many cases it's been clear > that the person setting things up did not understand the effects of many > computers in a small area.. > > Well, I now have

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Offices on opposite sides of oceans

2010-01-12 Thread Adam Levin
If you have enough money to play with, you might want to look into NetApp's FlexCache setup -- a filer at home with the primary data, and another head with some disk remotely to cache the data from home and serve it locally. It was designed for specifically this sort of application, but of cou

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Jeremy Charles
After seeing how good of a job Xirrus was doing at LISA year after year, we brought them in to take a swing at our 5200-seat auditorium. We had been using about 20 Cisco APs on a wireless controller with directional antennas and low power, but it simply didn't work out at all. Once we got abov

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Offices on opposite sides of oceans

2010-01-12 Thread John Stoffel
Adam> If you have enough money to play with, you might want to look Adam> into NetApp's FlexCache setup -- a filer at home with the Adam> primary data, and another head with some disk remotely to cache Adam> the data from home and serve it locally. Adam> It was designed for specifically this sort

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Chuong Dao
I've setup a fairly large wireless system. The event was at a conference for about 10K of people. I the test setup went well at my work location. It did not perform well at the event. Later, I found out that human bodies absorb signals. You might want to read up on that. -CD -Original Mess

[lopsa-discuss] Unison for windows file synchronization

2010-01-12 Thread Rob Cherry
Has anyone ever used unison? (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) I have a large file server migration coming up (large being relative - its only .5Tb - but large for us). We are migrating to a new domain infrastructure. As such all the SIDs and ownership of files is going to be messed u

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Unison for windows file synchronization

2010-01-12 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Rob Cherry wrote: > Has anyone ever used unison? (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) > > I have a large file server migration coming up (large being relative - > its only .5Tb - but large for us). We are migrating to a new domain > infrastructure. As such all the SIDs and ownership of f

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Matt Simmons
m...microwaved hu-man. All the better reason not to sit close to the AP, I suppose. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Chuong Dao wrote: > I've setup a fairly large wireless system. The event was at a conference for > about 10K of people. I the test setup went well at my work location. It di

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Richard Chycoski
This reminds me of a line from an early Star Trek episode: "Ugly sacks of mostly water" to describe human beings. And 2.4 GHz is quite susceptible to water absorption, especially at 2.45 GHz. Also remember that some things *reflect* RF, which can make a mess of those nice antenna patterns that

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Unison for windows file synchronization

2010-01-12 Thread nmedbery
Rob, You might want to check into Robocopy too. You can opt to bring the ACLs with if you like (if there is a domain trust, that would work), or skip them if you don't care. There are a ton of options, and it can effectively do a diff and only bring across the files that have changed. The do

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Richard Chycoski
But that's where you get the best access. Get your priorities straight - it's much more important to have a solid WiFi connection than it is to keep from getting toasted! :-) - Richard Matt Simmons wrote: > m...microwaved hu-man. > > All the better reason not to sit close to the AP, I suppo

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Unison for windows file synchronization

2010-01-12 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Rob Cherry wrote: > Has anyone ever used unison? (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) > > I have a large file server migration coming up (large being relative - > its only .5Tb - but large for us).  We are migrating to a new domain > infrastructure.  As su

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Brodie, Kent
If you're setting up wireless at a tech conference-- (and the associated internet link), I *highly* recommend this reading: http://lopsa.org/node/1847 It's scary, somewhat amusing, and highly educational. It should give you uh, a few things to watch out for :-) --Kent PS: Good luck! ___

[lopsa-discuss] Who's in San Francisco?

2010-01-12 Thread Gilbert Wilson
I'll be in San Francisco later this week for some client work. I haven't been in SF since I was 8. Anyone around Thursday or Friday night for a drink and geek talk? SF LOPSA Happy Hour? Gil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lopsa.org http://lopsa.o

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Perrine
Rogue AP detection can be very important, too. It's not just about security, but also about stopping them from interfering either at an analog RF level, or from taking up "transmit slots" that you want for yourself. I would ping the DEFCON netadmin folks, they did pretty well in Vegas the last

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Unison for windows file synchronization

2010-01-12 Thread nmedbery
Brian, Oh neat, I didn't even know about the /MON option on robocopy. I need to read the docs again, it has been a while. -Nate On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Brian Mathis wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Rob Cherry wrote: Has anyone ever used unison? (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpi

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Who's in San Francisco?

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Limoncelli
I'll be in SF this weekend too. Let me know if something happens. Tom Jan 14-17: SF Jan 17-30: Mountain View (possibly weekends in SF) Feb 5-13: SF On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Gilbert Wilson wrote: > I'll be in San Francisco later this week for some client work.  I > haven't been in SF si

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread david
Xirrus has run the network here (SCALE) for the last couple of years (without being a spectacular success). I don't know why, but they are not doing it this year. The budget does not extend to buying their type of equipment. David Lang On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Jeremy Charles wrote: > Date: Tue,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread david
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Richard Chycoski wrote: > This reminds me of a line from an early Star Trek episode: > > "Ugly sacks of mostly water" to describe human beings. And 2.4 GHz is quite > susceptible to water absorption, especially at 2.45 GHz. > > Also remember that some things *reflect* RF, whi

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Richard Chycoski
da...@lang.hm wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Richard Chycoski wrote: > >> This reminds me of a line from an early Star Trek episode: >> >> "Ugly sacks of mostly water" to describe human beings. And 2.4 GHz is >> quite susceptible to water absorption, especially at 2.45 GHz. >> >> Also remember that

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread david
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Richard Chycoski wrote: > da...@lang.hm wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Richard Chycoski wrote: >> >>> I would also configure all of the APs for 'b' only (no 'g') to get the >>> maximum use of your channel space. Mixing AP types as you have suggested >>> may cause you more h

Re: [lopsa-discuss] high density wireless

2010-01-12 Thread Richard Chycoski
da...@lang.hm wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Richard Chycoski wrote: > >> da...@lang.hm wrote: >>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Richard Chycoski wrote: >>> I would also configure all of the APs for 'b' only (no 'g') to get the maximum use of your channel space. Mixing AP types as you have s

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Unison for windows file synchronization

2010-01-12 Thread Chris Reisor
I'll third (or fouth?) thr robocopy recommendations. It does everything you're mentioning, and you can't beat the price. On Tuesday, January 12, 2010, wrote: > Brian, > > Oh neat, I didn't even know about the /MON option on robocopy.  I need to > read the docs again, it has been a while. >  

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Unison for windows file synchronization

2010-01-12 Thread Nathan Hruby
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Chris Reisor wrote: > I'll third (or fouth?) thr robocopy recommendations.  It does > everything you're mentioning, and you can't beat the price. > Fifth! I've done a few few domain migrations using robocopy to import files into the new domain and it worked reall