Re: [Discuss] "Enter a passphrase to unlock the volume"

2024-05-22 Thread Kent Borg
On 3/5/24 09:55, Kent Borg wrote: When I plug in one of my external backup disks my desktop software, Mate (gnome fork from before they ruined the UI), helpful asks me for the passphrase, which I like, I don't need to type fussy commands. This dialog has three options: - Forget password immed

Re: [Discuss] Debian 11 -> 12

2024-05-22 Thread Kent Borg
On 5/22/24 12:07, Steve Litt wrote: Unless you're encrypting the root partition, I can't think of any use of LVM that can't be done other ways. That's why I use it. Full disk encryption is a good thing. (Well, /boot is still in the clear, so not quite full.) I view LVM as yet another layer

Re: [Discuss] Debian 11 -> 12

2024-05-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Kent Borg wrote: > The most intriguing btrfs, zfs, etc., feature that I have never played with > is the ability to do snapshots. But that is also a scary feature, allowing > me to have parallel universes, each complete in itself? And what happens > when I get confused (or for some other reason) st

Re: [Discuss] Debian 11 -> 12

2024-05-22 Thread Rich Pieri
On Wed, 22 May 2024 15:07:27 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Unless you're encrypting the root partition, I can't think of any use > of LVM that can't be done other ways. I view LVM as yet another layer > of abstraction and yet another way to lose your data. My most common use case at work: Add vDisk

Re: [Discuss] Debian 11 -> 12

2024-05-22 Thread Rich Pieri
On Wed, 22 May 2024 15:51:13 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > In ZFS, you can promote a snapshot to being the True State of > affairs, which rolls the system back to that consistent state. This can be done with Btrfs as well. OpenSUSE integrate their Snapper tool with Zypper to snapshot the system befo

Re: [Discuss] Debian 11 -> 12

2024-05-22 Thread Kent Borg
On 5/22/24 12:51, Dan Ritter wrote: Kent Borg wrote: The most intriguing btrfs, zfs, etc., feature that I have never played with is the ability to do snapshots. But that is also a scary feature, allowing me to have parallel universes, each complete in itself? And what happens when I get confused

Re: [Discuss] Debian 11 -> 12

2024-05-22 Thread Rich Pieri
On Wed, 22 May 2024 13:39:44 -0700 Kent Borg wrote: > But I thought btrfs *did* allow CoW snapshots, and nested snapshots, > and it seemed to me plenty of other footguns. I've never played with It does, and there are some niche use cases for them. > it, the fact that for the longest time btrfs'

Re: [Discuss] Debian 11 -> 12

2024-05-22 Thread Steve Litt
Rich Pieri said on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:01:33 -0400 >On Wed, 22 May 2024 15:07:27 -0400 >Steve Litt wrote: > >> Unless you're encrypting the root partition, I can't think of any use >> of LVM that can't be done other ways. I view LVM as yet another layer >> of abstraction and yet another way to lo

Re: [Discuss] Debian 11 -> 12

2024-05-22 Thread Rich Pieri
On Wed, 22 May 2024 21:22:30 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > True. I never thought of lots of NVMe drives. It's not a common use case. One tends not to find compute servers loaded with PCIe cards each worth at least as much as the entire rest of the server. >>I have seen filesystems (notably XFS and