Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-23 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
2012/1/23 Pedro > > Charles-H. Schulz wrote > > > > So the iconset was indeed changed at the Beta 3 (I had the beta 2 > running) > > and no, it was not well communicated, but the discussion took place on > > ux-advise and the design list. > > > > I also remained (deliberately) on Beta2 in order t

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-23 Thread Pedro
Charles-H. Schulz wrote > > So the iconset was indeed changed at the Beta 3 (I had the beta 2 running) > and no, it was not well communicated, but the discussion took place on > ux-advise and the design list. > I also remained (deliberately) on Beta2 in order to test the Update mechanism. I jum

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-23 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Pedro, 2012/1/22 Charles-H. Schulz > Hello Pedro, > > 2012/1/21 Pedro > >> Hi Charles >> >> >> Charles-H. Schulz wrote >> > >> > - if the icon was changed (I don't think it has, my 3.5 beta still has >> the >> > floppy icon on the mac) then it means someone provided a replacement >> icon.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Pedro, *, Am 22.01.2012 13:43 schrieb Pedro: [..] > I just think it that it doesn't make sense to change things that users > rely on just because you can. +1 Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images -- Unsubscribe instru

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-22 Thread Pedro
Hi again Charles Charles-H. Schulz wrote > > Hmm... it does not make sense (not what you say, but what's going on), > because we don't ship different icons -under the same iconset- on > different > platforms. I do believe you, but would you be so kind as taking a > screenshot of your screen and

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Pedro, 2012/1/21 Pedro > Hi Charles > > > Charles-H. Schulz wrote > > > > - if the icon was changed (I don't think it has, my 3.5 beta still has > the > > floppy icon on the mac) then it means someone provided a replacement > icon. > > > > It certainly has under Windows. > Hmm... it does

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Hi Charles Charles-H. Schulz wrote > > - if the icon was changed (I don't think it has, my 3.5 beta still has the > floppy icon on the mac) then it means someone provided a replacement icon. > It certainly has under Windows. Charles-H. Schulz wrote > > Again I don't remember it was the case

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, 2012/1/21 Tony Pursell > Terry > > On 21 January 2012 17:15, Terry Warby wrote: > > > On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: > > > >> Terry Warby wrote > >> > >>> What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu > >>> 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Tony Pursell
Terry On 21 January 2012 17:15, Terry Warby wrote: > On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: > >> Terry Warby wrote >> >>> What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu >>> 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the >>> crystal and galaxy icons). >>> >>

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Terry Warby wrote > > Just did a quick check and it seams that of the icon sets I have > installed only the tango icon sets don't use the floppy icon. This was > probably covered earlier in the thread! > At least I can't find any decision or voting... That is what I'm trying to understand. -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby
On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy icons). I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby
On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy icons). I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have t

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Terry Warby wrote > > What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu > 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the > crystal and galaxy icons). > I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have to manually switch to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby
On 21/01/12 16:21, Pedro wrote: Apparently someone decided that it was a good idea to replace the Floppy icon. I'm sorry I didn't get a change to vote (if there was any voting) Personally I think that regardless if people know what a Floppy is, they recognized that symbol as the Save icon (basi

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Apparently someone decided that it was a good idea to replace the Floppy icon. I'm sorry I didn't get a change to vote (if there was any voting) Personally I think that regardless if people know what a Floppy is, they recognized that symbol as the Save icon (basically a blue square with a white r

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-14 Thread Timothy Mark Brennan Jr.
Sincerely, I am not qualified in any of these areas. But I see the discussion as almost irrelevant. Imagine us ridding IT terminology of terms referring to "dated" subjects such as kernel, batch, shell, etc. It is impossible for us to work with the abstract without referring to the concrete.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-13 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I have seen a bunch of discussion related to "get rid of Floppy Disk because it is antiquated", but I am unclear on the qualifications of the people making the decisions. Is this just a random opinion one way or another, or are the participants somehow qualified or familiar with human factors,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-13 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:01:26 - "Harold Fuchs" wrote: > The icon for opening a previously saved document is an open folder > with a curved arrow pointing *out of* it. If a change to the Save > icon is deemed necessary, perhaps it could become the same open > folder but with the curve

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-12 Thread Harold Fuchs
wrote in message news:20120112001553.6c327f8b.v...@ukr.net... I like the floppy icon. "HDD" icon is being broadly used nowadays, but as somebody pointed in this thread, not every user is familiar with computer inside, so changing from one thing that they haven't seen to another one which the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-30 Thread M Henri Day
2011/12/30 NoOp > On 12/30/2011 08:12 AM, M Robinson wrote: > ... > > > > I haven't heard of Delete/Eraser that works as well on SSDs as > > traditional hard drives. That said USB will be the most common storage > > media soon enough. Who saves to CDs at work? > > > > I don't think the icon is a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-30 Thread Robert Derman
M Robinson wrote: I haven't heard of Delete/Eraser that works as well on SSDs as traditional hard drives. That said USB will be the most common storage media soon enough. Who saves to CDs at work? I don't think the icon is a big deal, the whole interface is dated, I pitched a Firefox addon-lik

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-30 Thread NoOp
On 12/30/2011 08:12 AM, M Robinson wrote: ... > > I haven't heard of Delete/Eraser that works as well on SSDs as > traditional hard drives. That said USB will be the most common storage > media soon enough. Who saves to CDs at work? > > I don't think the icon is a big deal, the whole interface is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-30 Thread M Robinson
On 12/29/2011 5:23 AM, Tony Pursell wrote: > On 29 December 2011 00:29, NoOp wrote: > >> On 12/28/2011 03:59 PM, NoOp wrote: >>> On 12/28/2011 02:46 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: >>> ... Until I checked it out just now, I didn't realise that the Save icon >> used in the Ubuntu version of

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Erich Christian wrote (30-12-11 11:45) I'd go for a change, neither elderly people nor 'youngsters' associate anything useful with the symbol. Having asked my teenagers (13, 16, 19) who are familiar with computers ever since, they cannot remember floppy although I've been using some until a coup

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-30 Thread Erich Christian
Hi, Am 30.12.2011 04:53, schrieb Danishka Navin: > next generation won't find a floppy disk in real life. > we better use some thing else +1 I'd go for a change, neither elderly people nor 'youngsters' associate anything useful with the symbol. Having asked my teenagers (13, 16, 19) who are fami

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-29 Thread Danishka Navin
next generation won't find a floppy disk in real life. we better use some thing else On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: > On 29 December 2011 00:29, NoOp wrote: > > > On 12/28/2011 03:59 PM, NoOp wrote: > > > On 12/28/2011 02:46 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: > > > ... > > >> > > >>

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-29 Thread Tony Pursell
On 29 December 2011 00:29, NoOp wrote: > On 12/28/2011 03:59 PM, NoOp wrote: > > On 12/28/2011 02:46 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: > > ... > >> > >> Until I checked it out just now, I didn't realise that the Save icon > used > >> in the Ubuntu version of LO is actually a broad green downward arrow on >

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-28 Thread NoOp
On 12/28/2011 03:59 PM, NoOp wrote: > On 12/28/2011 02:46 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: > ... >> >> Until I checked it out just now, I didn't realise that the Save icon used >> in the Ubuntu version of LO is actually a broad green downward arrow on top >> of a representation of a Hard drive. Now, I hav

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2011-12-28 Thread NoOp
On 12/28/2011 02:46 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: ... > > Until I checked it out just now, I didn't realise that the Save icon used > in the Ubuntu version of LO is actually a broad green downward arrow on top > of a representation of a Hard drive. Now, I have had no problems saving > documents, so I i