Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-31 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Hal! On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 00:38:58 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > > I'm noty sure how this appies to ntpviz??? > > I was trying to describe what I'm doing currently and what I like and > don't like about it. > > The current ntpviz makes a bunch of graphs as files and puts a web > page wrapper a

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-31 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Hal Murray : > I'm not interested in automatically making graphs for somebody else to look > at. I'm only interested in "now", when I want to look at things. For each possible graph, there is a command-line option that generates only that graph. And the default directory is /var/log/ntpstats.

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-31 Thread Hal Murray
> I'm noty sure how this appies to ntpviz??? I was trying to describe what I'm doing currently and what I like and don't like about it. The current ntpviz makes a bunch of graphs as files and puts a web page wrapper around it. I'd like to avoid that and put the output of gnuplot directly on t

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-30 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Hal! On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 22:56:43 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > g...@rellim.com said: > > If you want to backup your graphs, just add a loggerd script to > > gzip them to somewhere on a schedule. > > Wrong binding for "backup". > > The context was the way I'm currently looking at graphs. I

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-30 Thread Hal Murray
g...@rellim.com said: > If you want to backup your graphs, just add a loggerd script to gzip them to > somewhere on a schedule. Wrong binding for "backup". The context was the way I'm currently looking at graphs. I feed things like this to gnuplot: reset; load "foo1.gp" pause -1 reset;

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-29 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Hal! On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:38:54 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > The part I forgot to mention is that if I was going to do something > to make my setup better, I would try to make a wrapper to drive > gnuplot - a little window off to the side so I could poke Next rather > than typing return at the

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-23 Thread Hal Murray
The part I forgot to mention is that if I was going to do something to make my setup better, I would try to make a wrapper to drive gnuplot - a little window off to the side so I could poke Next rather than typing return at the gnuplot command window. The main thing I want is a way to backup a

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Hal! On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 01:53:35 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > I have a script that uses rsync to collect the log files from various > machines. Eric is working on something like that. > Mostly, I plot 2 days, yesterday and as much of today as is available. So two graphs, one for today and y

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-23 Thread Achim Gratz
Hal Murray writes: > Using microseconds for everything is hard to read for long delays typical of > network links. In bufferbloat cases, I see delays of several seconds. I've > seen delays of 10s of seconds. I can't count all those 0s quickly. I think > milliseconds would be better. (Looks

Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-23 Thread Hal Murray
I've been playing with graphs for a long time. Here is a dump of what I've done and/or some comments about the current ntpviz. Maybe something will be useful. I have a script that uses rsync to collect the log files from various machines. Mostly, I plot 2 days, yesterday and as much of tod