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from, but it does look like it belongs to NTPSEc??
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Yo James!
On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 16:23:37 -0700
James Browning via devel wrote:
>is They should apply in any order.
Please make these Merge Requests.
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to grow Go much more, and we see some ugly sides of Rsut.
IMHO, the lack of standardization of Rust, and the constant incompatible
code chrun of Rust, makes it not ready for prime time.
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of machines running our ntpd?
> Number of OS/Distros/architectures we run on?
> An example of an interesting project in a safe language?
> How much fun we are having?
IMHO, the last one.
Neither Go nor Rust is "safe", just a tad "safer".
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Whoops. See below.
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g many years ago?
Yes, when we expected Go to get more traction that it has gotten. Now
even Google is not pushing it.
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Yo James!
On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 06:14:08 -0700
James Browning via devel wrote:
> what about gccgo[1] and gcc-rs[2]
Even the people doing those projects don't think they are ready yet.
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urity bugs for a while.
Great way to kill the project.
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Yo Hal!
On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 21:41:42 -0700
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> (this page left blank)
Yes. Many.
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When I made the debug log changes you asked for last night, I was
thinking the same thine. A lot of duplication.
After release we should rip and shred that.
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I'll look today.
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Yo Hal!
On Thu, 03 Apr 2025 21:41:02 -0700
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> >> Have you looked at README-PYTHON?
> > See attached.
>
> Looks good. Thanks.
I'll have more Friday. Mostly references.
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ooking in the wrong file
> earlier.
TMI.
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Yo James!
On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 13:42:41 -0700
James Browning via devel wrote:
> On Friday, April 4, 2025 1:39:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time Gary E.
> Miller via devel wrote:
> > Yo Hal!
> >
> > I just pushes some changes to README-PYTHON.
> >
> > I alrea
Yo Hal!
I just pushes some changes to README-PYTHON.
I already found a mistake. Bonus points if anyone finds the
error...
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I just pushes some changes to README-PYTHON.
Please review.
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its
> result. Or just test for it being installed in case it is turned off
> while waf install is run and gets turned back on later.
As Linus recommends, I avoid SELinux. I'll leave that to others.
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e stands out in
> a directory listing.
Works for me.
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Yo Hal!
On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 23:05:55 -0700
Hal Murray wrote:
> > Best to educate the user to debug his own Python issues.
>
> Have you looked at README-PYTHON?
See attached.
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#x27;m the wrong person to proof
read those...
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How many test kernel 6.4? Way more test 6.14.1
Prolly should annouce in users@
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Ve
#x27;python" makes sense. Of
> course, that may be leftover from when python2 was still important.
Sadly, no one rule to rule them all.
Best to educate the user to debug his own Python issues.
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roken, not PEP compliant.
And a bug should be filed upstream.
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"If you can't measure it, you can&
Yo Fred!
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 16:23:10 -0700 (PDT)
Fred Wright via devel wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
> > On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 20:52:30 -0700
> > Hal Murray wrote:
> [...]
> > Alternatively, you can create a link to you python3, ca
tiuons would be a can of worms. I'll stay away from that
subject.
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ease for a long time. I've been
> assuming people have been testing.
I do not assume that. Likely they will test after release.
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"If you can't measure it, you can't improve
s automatic. You can change which Python is "python"
with "eselect python list".
Python officially recommends having python set to something. Doing
otherwise is just anarchy.
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directory.
My idea is that we should get rid of our .egg-info file and more to the
.dist-info "standard". If you look in your /usr/lib/python*/ directories
you will see almost all packages do that now.
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ml
FYI, the FHS is what Pottering wants to banish.
So, something broke...
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waf-2.1.4 you get new behavior. waf-2.0.25 gets you new behavior
> closer to the old behavior.
And who or what changes the symlink? When? Why? Documented?
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e from Pottering. No point fighting the distro that you
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acket.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3893 Mar 18 14:34 poly.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9171 Mar 18 14:34 statfiles.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 52609 Mar 18 14:34 util.py
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kages is for user (site) unstalled packages
site-packages was always the correct sub-dir, when user installed.
Since waf changed it, the PYTHONDIR var needs to be changed to match.
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Yo Hal!
I tried to bisect the git. No luck. The issue depends on which
Python I am running.
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def. That assumes our new wonderful modern language has a
> reasonable way to call c code.
FFI seems to work well now. But dropping root causes as many problems
as it selves. If/when it becomes an issue I would propose a different
approach.
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because testing an alternative would be a pain. A few
things could be combined using POSIX.
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Yo Hal!
On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:16:44 -0700
Hal Murray via devel wrote:
> I added a few RFCs to the ntpd man page.
>
> The code looks like this:
> RFC 8915::
^^
Starts a list.
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gt; indents a big jump.
As it was told. So don't make it a list.
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ble.
Thus my complaint about #ifdef DEBUG. I hate to have to rebuild to
turn on debug! And hard to get users to rebuild when all they did was
install a package.
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# This uses -Werror which may not be portable.
> Has anybody noticed any problems?
Depends on how you define "problem". I see that as "opportunity".
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snmpd.py
ntpclients/ntpsweep.py
ntpclients/ntptrace.py
ntpclients/ntpviz.py
ntpclients/ntpwait.py
And all pretty simple. I don't see any win to converting any of them.
Might be worth considering Go for a new project.
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https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/-/merge_requests/1426
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the wrappers.
I'd like to see that trick.
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lt for the target arch.
Yup. Like lic and libm You can find them the same way you found the
stdbool.h.
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> I thought I was answering your questions.
Yes, the questions I posed to help you figure out the armhf tangle, the
one in the Subject:
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g...
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warned me" you can point to that.
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tuff around as long as it is still
> working.
Your definition of "working" and mine do not match.
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ing to figure out during cross-compile.
The ONLY reason to do it at compile time os the warn the user he
will have a 2038 issue. No other reason.
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e/bits/wordsize.h says
> /* Determine the wordsize from the preprocessor defines. */
>
> #if defined __x86_64__ && !defined __ILP32__
> # define __WORDSIZE 64
> #else
> # define __WORDSIZE 32
Note that x86_64 and ILP32 are part of the selected (--march) ABI.
t I'm not sure what actually happens.
Oh, now I have context. The only extra code for cross builds would
be the --march. When you use --march then /usr/include/sys may
not be used for . cc swaps sys directory to one approriate
to the target.
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like
an integer from the header files.
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mmands()
> File
> "/builds/NTPsec/ntpsec/.waf3-2.0.25-767522112be77f8585812fcfaa08e805
> /waflib/Scripting.py", line 182, in run_commands ...
>
> Details in https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/-/jobs/9016721971
What C code did that try to generate for the test?
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authon.
A lot of users do not want Python 3.
I'm happy with Python 3, but every time gpsd breaks Python 2.7, I get
complaints. Maybe this year is the last year to deal with this mess.
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ase that still supports
> 2.6, but with a big warning. Then we can ship another release
> quickly after that which drops support for python 2.
I have heard no one in a long time that wants 2.6
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t time to drop support for Python 2.6?
Yes.
> That let's upgrade waf.
> https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/-/issues/830
> ntpsec doesn't build with waf >= 2.1.0
Yes.
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way around Coverity and/or gitlab very well. Can somebody
> give me a quick lesson. How do I clone our code, make my changes,
> then get Coverity to run on my new code?
Beats me. I think James has a handle on that.
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* be > m */
break;
}
if ((j - i) <= m) {
// done.
break;
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m confused.
>
> Gary said:
> > While is executed before forst loop iteration.
>
> Coverty doesn't complain until the 3rd or 4th try.
Still seems like a bug to me. Any potential UB is bad. Should be easy to
work around.
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While is executed before forst loop iteration.
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of j - i,
> which is type unsigned long.
Since j is 2, andi is 3, subtracting i from j caused integer wrap, which
is undefined.
> 473while ((j - i) > m) {
Work with 2s complement, but C does not specify 2s complement.
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> no releases last year.
Ditto gpsd.
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Yo James!
On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 14:48:14 -0800
James Browning via devel wrote:
> On Friday, January 3, 2025 1:50:54 PM Pacific Standard Time Gary E.
> Miller via devel wrote:
> > Yo Hal!
> >
> > On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 21:24:49 -0800
> >
> > Hal Murray wro
e to the mandatory
key type change. Autorenew can not halde certbot policay changes.
> What other certs does ntpsec use?
Mail server, the web site.
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apachectl start
exit 0
> We can setup a script for a cron job that will figure out how much
> time left and send email.
"We" could. :-) But it would quikcly get out of sync.
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led because lists was using an RSA key
and thy did not like that. Key type updated.
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hable CPU instructions.
Since is seems OSX specific I'd like a check either for OSX.
Are you sure that OSC has nothing like:
'-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64', '-D_TIME_BITS=64',
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Yo Fred!
On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:21:14 -0800 (PST)
Fred Wright via devel wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024, Gary E. Miller (@garyedmundsmiller) wrote:
> > Gary E_ Miller
> > commented:
> > https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/-/merge_requests/1414#note_2273464732
> >
> >
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"If you can't measure it, you can't
'
Ideas?
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they don't break the build.
> My vote would be to drop CI testing on old releases that no longer
> have free support.
Works for me.
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e away.
I have no idea about Ubuntu or cross building. I donn't know who might.
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o see if the PLLs are
> stable.
Servers, hosting containers of serrvers. With ntpd running in the server
in the containr. I have no idea how to tell the container to allow
adj_time() to work.
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. If this isn't
> clear enough, see this photograph.
Pi HATs only fit one way. I seem to recall that Pi1 HATS are
not the same as Pi 2, Pi3, Pi4 or Pi 5 HATS.
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for this (plus some monitoring program like
> Nagios, Icinga, etc.):
> https://nagios-plugins.org/doc/man/check_ntp_peer.html
I used to use Nagios, but I moved on to Zabbix. Both will do this job.
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Maybe "checked_return"
should be in CAPS?
The suggestions of adding (void) should work. Ir actually check the
return.
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nds on
how good you feel about the commit.
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y...@sonic.net is an admin
on the NTPSec Coverity account.
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ect.
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S
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"If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin
pgp
Yo Hal!
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 17:45:43 -0700
Hal Murray via devel wrote:
> Found it. systemd sets up separate /tmp for some services.
Yeah, systemd(umb) is your problem...
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.
Easy way to check, just turn nodev off:
~ # mount -o remount,dev /tmp
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erpret character or block special devices on the
filesystem.
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2097152k)
Notice my /tmp has the "sticky bit" (see man chmod), and is nosuid.
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have to
> work on is the server half.
I look forward to your results. I found working with Go was nice.
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ss one in a million sample
> pairs of reading the clock.
Which is why NTP slowly adjusts PLL's instead of jumping around.
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g.
ve any data on Go GC times?
Just what is in the doc: https://go.dev/doc/gc-guide
The programmer has very little control over the GC.
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> NTPsec does not need, random, unpredictable delays.
>
> It would appear there is a way to turn off GC under runtime/,
How? Link?
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es need not be separate releases, but
> should (IMHO) certainly be separate commits and likely be separate
> PRs.
A fair plan, and a lot of work, for little added value.
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stable, Python 3
features. Getting rid of Python 2 does not make them stable. For
example: type hints. Even Luke Skywalker can't keep his eyes on that
moving target.
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and also have the
> > option of adding type hinting.
Type hinting is still unstable in Python. Gonna be years before we can
use that.
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quick to arrive. Let's try
again in a year.
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t we will drop it as part of the
> following release?
From RHEL:
"The RHEL 8 AppStream Lifecycle Page puts the end date of RHEL 8's
Python 2.7 package at June 2024."
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/4455511
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git config --global user.name "Gary E. Miller"
git config --global user.email g...@rellim.com
Look in the "FILE"s section in "man git-config" for all the places it might
be stored.
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