Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Hal Murray via devel
There is one bug that I think should get fixed. I don't know the number. ntpq fails too often on flaky links. I seem to be the only one who notices it. I assume it's something in the retransmission logic. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. __

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Gary E. Miller : > > Gary, Hal, Matt, Daniel: Would all of you check in on this, please? > > Done. Good. Please confirm that you're not identifying any potential blockers other than #341. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond Please consider contributing to my Patreon p

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Gary E. Miller via devel : > Yo Ian! > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 15:04:34 -0500 > Ian Bruene via devel wrote: > > > Only thing I know of is bug #341, which I have repeatedly forgot or > > deliberately ignored because other things were higher priority. *If* > > the bug still even exists, as I have hea

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Daniel Franke : > If we're aiming for a September 28 release then I propose we should > have a dev freeze by September 1. Bug fixes only during that month; > anything that's mere polishing goes on a branch. > > I don't want to release 1.0 without having > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ntp

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread John D. Bell via devel
Sorry I missed the meeting. I understand why distro maintainers wouldn't want pre-1.0 code. I thought that you would release 1.0 both as the usual source repo _and_ with "example" packages. I would expect that the maintainers might well repackage to suit their tastes. On 08/07/2017 03:59 PM,

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Ian! On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 15:04:34 -0500 Ian Bruene via devel wrote: > Only thing I know of is bug #341, which I have repeatedly forgot or > deliberately ignored because other things were higher priority. *If* > the bug still even exists, as I have heard nothing about it since > back when it wa

Fwd: Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Ian Bruene via devel
Note to self: check the reply address in the future. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Time to plan for 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 14:59:14 -0500 From: Ian Bruene To: Eric S. Raymond On 08/07/2017 11:58 AM, Eric S. Raymond via devel wrote: If anyone thinks my a

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 15:51:13 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond via devel" wrote: > John D. Bell : > > > > I thought that one necessity before 1.0 were at least preliminary > > "packaged" version for the major distros - i.e., .deb and .rpm > > files, conformant to the conventions (file locations, e

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
John D. Bell : > > I thought that one necessity before 1.0 were at least preliminary > "packaged" version for the major distros - i.e., .deb and .rpm files, > conformant to the conventions (file locations, etc.) of the systems that > used them. > > Am I wrong? If not, do you know what the status

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread John D. Bell via devel
I thought that one necessity before 1.0 were at least preliminary "packaged" version for the major distros - i.e., .deb and .rpm files, conformant to the conventions (file locations, etc.) of the systems that used them. Am I wrong? If not, do you know what the status of these are? On 08/07/201

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Daniel! On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:18:14 -0400 Daniel Franke via devel wrote: > I don't want to release 1.0 without having > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ntp-data-minimization-01 > implemented. As of the last IETF meeting I'm confident that there > aren't going to be any significant norm

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Daniel Franke via devel
If we're aiming for a September 28 release then I propose we should have a dev freeze by September 1. Bug fixes only during that month; anything that's mere polishing goes on a branch. I don't want to release 1.0 without having https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ntp-data-minimization-01 implem

Re: Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:58:13 -0400 (EDT) "Eric S. Raymond via devel" wrote: > * We need to start working towards a 1.0 release no later than 28 > September. Very doable, good plan to do so. > If anyone thinks my assumptions are incorrect, speak up quickly, > please. I'm 100% with you

Time to plan for 1.0

2017-08-07 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Summary: * We need to start working towards a 1.0 release no later than 28 September. * I need our senior devs to identify any release-blocker issues and tell me what they think our pre-release priorities should be. Details: On Saturday, I had a phone conversation with Mark Atwood during whic