Re: PROPOSED, change of stance, release metronome

2016-03-13 Thread Hal Murray
Kurt's comments look good. This is what I was typing in while that was in the pipeline. fallenpega...@gmail.com said: > I propose that we move to a scheduled release model, with the addition of > security fast releases. I think it's more complicated than that. There are several tangled ideas

Re: PROPOSED, change of stance, release metronome

2016-03-13 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 10:52:17PM +, Mark Atwood wrote: > Hello Kurt, > > We have not yet had that discussion yet. > > As someone from a distribution, what would you like from NTPsec? In the ideal world, we'd like to have some releases supported for something like 5 years. And if you indic

Re: PROPOSED, change of stance, release metronome

2016-03-13 Thread Mark Atwood
Hello Kurt, We have not yet had that discussion yet. As someone from a distribution, what would you like from NTPsec? ..m On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 2:04 PM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 08:31:04PM +, Mark Atwood wrote: > > Hi! > > > > One of the policy mistakes that was killi

Re: PROPOSED, change of stance, release metronome

2016-03-13 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 08:31:04PM +, Mark Atwood wrote: > Hi! > > One of the policy mistakes that was killing MySQL 5.0, back in the day, is > that they would not make a point release until a target feature for that > point release was done. This was killing them/us, because of the standard

PROPOSED, change of stance, release metronome

2016-03-13 Thread Mark Atwood
Hi! One of the policy mistakes that was killing MySQL 5.0, back in the day, is that they would not make a point release until a target feature for that point release was done. This was killing them/us, because of the standard difficulties with estimation was causing every announcement to just be

Change of stance, no more waiting on the NTP Foundaton

2016-03-13 Thread Mark Atwood
Hi! For reasons, henceforth we longer wait on the NTP Foundation to release. We will release when we release, and then if necessary we can do a security point release immediately after they release. I understand that this can cause problems for distro packagers. However, distro packagers are use

releasing 0.9.2 this Tuesday 2016-03-15

2016-03-13 Thread Mark Atwood
Hi! We held up our last release for reasons that were good at the time, but are now less important. I want to tag a release and announce it Tuesday morning, and will do it unless someone pulls the brakes on it for a good reason. I have created a "== 2016-03-15: 0.9.2 ==" entry in ntpsec/NEWS. E