Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Tone Kastlunger
s/project/process heh On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Tone Kastlunger wrote: > QML plugins in a separate project - something is amiss here; but anyways. > It is fairly easy to evaluate a technology for a certain use in my > opinion; especially if that technology is not new and has been used > (S

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Tone Kastlunger
QML plugins in a separate project - something is amiss here; but anyways. It is fairly easy to evaluate a technology for a certain use in my opinion; especially if that technology is not new and has been used (SELinux has), and ESPECIALLY if it has been used in the same context already (i.e. Androi

Re: [SailfishDevel] Does Jolla C ship with AlienDalvik ?

2016-09-07 Thread Franck Routier (perso)
Great, thank you for the information. Best regards, Franck nb: I also asked on the Jolla Blog, but the question was unanswered, so I'm going to update the blog in case someone see it and to avoid FUD :-) Le 07/09/2016 à 14:35, James Noori a écrit : Hi Franck, The simple answer is yes. Th

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Andrew Penkrat
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:20:04 PM MSK, Slava Monich wrote: Hi Andrew, To make matters worse, the plugin requirements may change over time, meaning that a system upgrade may break the app because the app didn't request access to some features required by the updated plugins. Applica

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Slava Monich
Hi Andrew, To make matters worse, the plugin requirements may change over time, meaning that a system upgrade may break the app because the app didn't request access to some features required by the updated plugins. Application shouldn't know/care about how does plugin work. Plugins are part

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Andrew Penkrat
s/archives/achieves/g On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:56:15 PM MSK, Andrew Penkrat wrote: Hi Slava, On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:20:23 PM MSK, Slava Monich wrote: Hi, Access to contacts is actually quite a good example. It may or may not require access to the network, depending on

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Andrew Penkrat
Hi Slava, On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:20:23 PM MSK, Slava Monich wrote: Hi, Access to contacts is actually quite a good example. It may or may not require access to the network, depending on how it's implemented at Qt plugin level. Should every app that needs contacts declare that it

Re: [SailfishDevel] Does Jolla C ship with AlienDalvik ?

2016-09-07 Thread James Noori
Hi Franck, The simple answer is yes. The Jolla C ships with AlienDalvik otherwise known as Android app compatibility. Cheers, James On 9/7/2016 2:33 PM, Franck Routier (perso) wrote: Hi, well, it's all in the title: Does Jolla C ship with AlienDalvik ? (I was under the impression that I re

[SailfishDevel] Does Jolla C ship with AlienDalvik ?

2016-09-07 Thread Franck Routier (perso)
Hi, well, it's all in the title: Does Jolla C ship with AlienDalvik ? (I was under the impression that I read otherwise somewhere, but I really don't know...) Franck ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-u

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Slava Monich
Hi, Access to contacts is actually quite a good example. It may or may not require access to the network, depending on how it's implemented at Qt plugin level. Should every app that needs contacts declare that it needs network access even if the app itself doesn't use the network? Or it coul

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Lewis Rockliffe
Slava, Apps would have to declare what they need to function, and then the sandbox is in place to ensure that they can only use what they declare. This doesn't solve apps declaring they need full access to everything, but at least there are some assurances to the user that if they expect an app w

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Slava Monich
I feel a bit sceptical. If the system supports plugins, i.e. shared libraries discovered at runtime and getting loaded into the process context without executable knowing it in advance (like Qt does), then the application doesn't even know what kind of resources it actually needs at runtime to

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Lucien Xu
Hello, During the discussion, we never hard-committed to SELinux. Instead, we wanted to experiment a bit with it, and see if it suits our needs. SELinux was the first choice to consider because of Android using it. My goal is to just evaluate how it can be used in the context of SFOS, as a sa

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] Sailfish OS Open Source Community Collaboration Meeting, 5th of September 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Tone Kastlunger
Yeah, the main issue of SELinux for me is the necessity of compiliing the policy in the first place; in turn for doing that, you need to pull in all the SELinux toolkit (which is huuge). On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote: > James Noori - 12:21 5.09.16 wrote: > > Hi everyone!