[SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > And please tell about possible ways for paying for application > and developer ways to receive funds Right. Will the store support in-app purchase? Will it support subscriptions? Will there be any in-app advertising system/network offered by Jolla, so that in-app a

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

And please tell about possible ways for paying for application and developer ways to receive funds. On 07.11.2013 03:29, Michal Jerz wrote: Hi guys, It's a great news about the store, and a great name, too. I have 9 applications ported to Sailfish OS from Harmattan/Symbian, but they're commer

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

On 06-Nov-13 13:33, Roberto Colistete Jr. wrote: > 1st Jolla smartphone I expect to be 4-6 times the speed of Nokia N9. ... and all of that still doesn't address the crux of problem: Desktop-style Linux distros rely on having to have all the data LOCALLY and doing the dependency resolution on t

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

6.11.2013 22:33, Roberto Colistete Jr.: snip: > And Mer/Nemo Mobile/Sailfish don't use .deb, but .rpm packages. > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list Yep, and as anyone can easily try, zypper on Nemo is blazing fast. And regarding repository siz

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Em 06-11-2013 19:26, Attila Csipa escreveu: On 06-Nov-13 13:05, Roberto Colistete Jr. wrote: - current (2013) smartphones are fast (dual or quad core @ > 1,0 GHz, fast flash memory, etc), equivalent to low cost net/notebooks some years ago, so it is not a problem to have repositories with thousa

[SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Hi guys, It's a great news about the store, and a great name, too. I have 9 applications ported to Sailfish OS from Harmattan/Symbian, but they're commercial, so I hope that submission of paid apps will soon be allowed as well... Anyway, I also have a few remarks regarding the current specif

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

On 06-Nov-13 13:05, Roberto Colistete Jr. wrote: - current (2013) smartphones are fast (dual or quad core @ > 1,0 GHz, fast flash memory, etc), equivalent to low cost net/notebooks some years ago, so it is not a problem to have repositories with thousands of packages; Luckily we all live in the

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

I support packages with the option to use dependencies in mobile OS : - about Sailfish OS, I feel managing RPM packages is faster than than DEB packages; - current (2013) smartphones are fast (dual or quad core @ > 1,0 GHz, fast flash memory, etc), equivalent to low cost net/notebooks some y

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

On 06-Nov-13 03:06, Karl Granström wrote: Today we're launching Jolla Harbour , the portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store. You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able to install them directly from their Jolla phones. The dry dock and slipway for develo

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

On 06-Nov-13 09:33, Marcin M. wrote: And somehow Debian and Ubuntu and ... do well it with real depends... Debian, Ubuntu (and the whole desktop Linux world) is a very different setup from the classic appstore setup (so no orphaned packages/apps, less packages, less metadata, less frequent up

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Hi, I notice something that could be a bug, when an error 504 occurs during the upload of a binary or icon you can remove the file and retry the upload, but when it s happen in screenshots of the app, you can't remove it and retry. Regards Le 2013-11-06 12:06, Karl Granström a écrit : Ahoy

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

I think depending on mer/nemo repositories makes sense, and increases my confidence I will be able to use sailfish OS devices for quite some time, and functionality could grow above whatever is in the initial release. The question is how will updates be managed? I think Mer releases periodic snap

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

W dniu 06.11.2013 19:03, Martin Grimme pisze: 2013/11/6, Marcin M. : And somehow Debian and Ubuntu and ... do well it with real depends... Well, Ubuntu and Debian are both dead slow on package management, and the main reason for that is a fancy dependencies resolving system. Still, if you add

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013/11/6, Marcin M. : > And somehow Debian and Ubuntu and ... do well it with real depends... Well, Ubuntu and Debian are both dead slow on package management, and the main reason for that is a fancy dependencies resolving system. Still, if you add some 3rd party repos to Debian or Ubuntu that t

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Nope, i was just joking :) Le 2013-11-06 18:51, Andrey Kozhevnikov a écrit : lol, really? you think developing own libraries sucks? arent you developed something really BIG? On 06.11.2013 23:47, kher...@khertan.net wrote: An analogy with boat about apps including his own libs : https://mobile

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

I have no major comments on dependencies, provided that: a) they are strictly @ app-level, ie no OS dependencies (unless hacked) b) they do not break after device updates c) they are transparent to the user (except the eventual download part) Best, tortoisedoc On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:51 PM, And

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

lol, really? you think developing own libraries sucks? arent you developed something really BIG? On 06.11.2013 23:47, kher...@khertan.net wrote: An analogy with boat about apps including his own libs : https://mobile.twitter.com/usmanm/status/388407160159211520/photo/1?screen_name=usmanm#!/usm

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

An analogy with boat about apps including his own libs : https://mobile.twitter.com/usmanm/status/388407160159211520/photo/1?screen_name=usmanm#!/usmanm/status/388407160159211520/photo/1?screen_name=usmanm :p -- Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.netLe 06/11/13 18:33 Marcin M. a écrit : And somehow

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

And somehow Debian and Ubuntu and ... do well it with real depends... -- Marcin 2013/11/6 Marcin M. > If everything handled correctly (assuming no 3rd party lib updates) what > bad can happen? > > -- > Marcin > > > 2013/11/6 Martin Grimme > >> Hi, >> >> 2013/11/6, 郭云鹤 : >> > i think every app

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

If everything handled correctly (assuming no 3rd party lib updates) what bad can happen? -- Marcin 2013/11/6 Martin Grimme > Hi, > > 2013/11/6, 郭云鹤 : > > i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many > > problems. > > I think the same. While having deps and libraries an

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Hi, 2013/11/6, 郭云鹤 : > i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many > problems. I think the same. While having deps and libraries and everything is cool from a Linuxer's point of view, it will give a bad user experience and just cry for breaking things when updating the O

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Bad Gateway for me atm :( But anyways awesome news! :)!! Go Jolla! Looking forward for the support of paying apps! tortoisedoc On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Marcin M. wrote: > And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases, databases > depend on the free app) > > -- > Marcin

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Okay. Next question about depends: - which nemo repositories will be enabled as libraries sources? - what is procedure of including libraries to this repositories? the main point is building gui separate from library and update only gui/library when need. it good choice when both gui and libra

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

No dependencies mean problems too... -- Marcin 2013/11/6 Benoît HERVIER > But apps shipping his own libraries mean not updated library, and could > be a mess if there is a security issue on one of it s libs ... > > There is always advantages and problems :) > > Le 2013-11-06 17:25, 郭云鹤 a écri

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

But apps shipping his own libraries mean not updated library, and could be a mess if there is a security issue on one of it s libs ... There is always advantages and problems :) Le 2013-11-06 17:25, 郭云鹤 a écrit : > i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many probl

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many problems. 郭云鹤(Guo Yunhe) http://guoyunhe.me/ 在 2013-11-7 上午12:13，"Marcin M." 写道： > It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a > modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an in-app-purchas

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Openrepos bear here :) -- Marcin 2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov > Opensource dies here :D > > > On 06.11.2013 22:12, Marcin M. wrote: > > It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a > modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an in-app-purchase > system, i

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Opensource dies here :D On 06.11.2013 22:12, Marcin M. wrote: It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an in-app-purchase system, it wouldn't be so bad :) -- Marcin 2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an in-app-purchase system, it wouldn't be so bad :) -- Marcin 2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan > I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone > to push the

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish. An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have their own applications, libraries and tools there. Just my 0.02 Cheers, On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58P

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Hi, Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;( Regards, -- Marcin 2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto > Hi, > > AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, you > cannot depend on store packages. > > re, Jonni > > -- > *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [ > d

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Looking back a little: http://mer-l-in.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/meego-community-development-apps.html David On 06/11/13 15:34, Marcin M. wrote: > And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases, databases > depend > on the free app) > > -- > Marcin > > > 2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevn

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Hi, AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, you cannot depend on store packages. re, Jonni From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M. [marmistrz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, No

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases, databases depend on the free app) -- Marcin 2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov > Good point, thanks! > > > On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote: > >> And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain the >> libra

Re: [SailfishDevel] Loading installed images

deploy as rpm package. binary deploying suitable if you dont know anything what to do :D On 06.11.2013 18:35, Mark Johnson wrote: I'm working on a graphics editing project where the user can perform some rudimentary drawing and having a problem when trying to load in sample images that are incl

[SailfishDevel] Loading installed images

I'm working on a graphics editing project where the user can perform some rudimentary drawing and having a problem when trying to load in sample images that are included with the install. In the project file structure I've got a folder called "samples" which has some png images. In the yaml fi

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Good point, thanks! On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote: And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side (after that you can depend against it). re, Jonni F

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side (after that you can depend against it). re, Jonni From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailf

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Actually mean uploading application with its depends. Application goes to applications, depends goes to sailfish harbour depends repository. If not we still need OpenRepos for Sailfish :) On 06.11.2013 18:27, Jonni Rainisto wrote: HI, AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

HI, AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires field. re, Jonni From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey Kozhevni

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Please more information about Harbour: - it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some libraries, required as depends for my appliction? - does it acts as repository? On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote: Ahoy all, Today we're launching Jolla Harbour , the portal for submi

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

It works for me. Great to see things moving on! Luciano On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM, joao morgado wrote: > The link seems to be broken can't acess harbour.jolla.com :( > > > > Em Quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2013 11:24, Benoît HERVIER > escreveu: > Hi, > > Great news. > > I take the op

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

The link seems to be broken can't acess  harbour.jolla.com  :( Em Quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2013 11:24, Benoît HERVIER escreveu: Hi, Great news. I take the opportunity to ask if there will be a service to test apps remotely on real device in the future. Currently ownNotes is working

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Hi, Great news. I take the opportunity to ask if there will be a service to test apps remotely on real device in the future. Currently ownNotes is working fine in the emulator, but someone report me that my app complains about missing libc.so.6 on a real device. Thanks, Regards Le 2013-11-0

[SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Ahoy all, Today we're launching Jolla Harbour , the portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store. You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able to install them directly from their Jolla phones. Here are some details about Jolla Harbour: Joining and logging into

Re: [SailfishDevel] QtWebKit crash

Answering to myself, for the record: I found where the problem laid: I was using QGuiApplication in my main for the Qt5 port, but since QtWebKitWidgets is QtWidgets based, a QApplication is needed. I realized this when I tried to create a QWebView to see if that was needed. That triggered an asse

Re: [SailfishDevel] Innovative app store. Or just a traditional one

Oh, yes, that's a good option, and I just got my "Quando Parte" Train timetable application ported to Sailfish OS, I hope I will be able to upload it to my repo this evening! I hope to see Openrepos grow in functionality but it is already quite useful as it is. Best regards, Luciano On Wed, N