Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:20:10AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi writes: > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:37:43AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Michal Hlavinka's solution of explicitly testing for the old sysv init > >> script seems like a win from here,

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:17:33PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: > > Bill Nottingham writes: > > > Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: > > >> IOW, once I push a mysql update with native systemd support into > > >> rawhide, I'll be forbidden from ever rebasing mysq

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:24:58PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list: > > Subject: rpm builds failing with "Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found" > > I thought there was a hard rule about not

Re: Rawhide should take turns with F-16 Branched

2011-08-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 07:55:40AM -0700, John Reiser wrote: > On 07/31/2011 01:37 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:22 PM, John Reiser wrote: > >> The nightly build "mash" for Fedora-16 Branched should go first, > >> before Rawhide, on a few days per week ... > > > You should o

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 12:31:15PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 21:24 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:58:08 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: > > > > > > 0.2.20110718525e3df.fc16 > > > > 0.2.2011072859fadcc.fc17 > > > > > > > > Split up into the elements t

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 11:10:42AM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 12:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 11:58 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > Well, in this case yes, but this problem could emerge again in a case > > > where there's no version

Re: disttags from f16 on

2011-08-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:24:47AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > > right now they are el4-candidate el5-candidate el6-candidate using epel > > rather > > than el makes it much clearer. especially for those who do things on RHEL > > insid

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 10:18:48PM +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello there, > > It seems that guile-gnome-platform should be unblocked as well. > > > > > Hello there, > > > > I wish to take ownership of gnusim8085 and gwave. > > Can you please grant me the "Take Ownership" for the respective

python-fedora package split

2011-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
This is a heads up for people packaging or using applications that depend on python-fedora. Currently, python-fedora is one package that contains code useful for both building clients that talk to Fedora Infrastructure Services and servers that run on Fedora Infrastructure (mainly CSRF protection

fusecompress needs new maintainers/comaintainers

2011-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Greetings, For the past few release cycles I've been keeping fusecompress alive since I was using it on a box with limited HD space. Now that I no longer use that box, I don't use fusecompress anymore. The maintainer and other comaintainers of our fusecompress package are busy and have also stop

Re: python-fedora package split

2011-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 08:01:11PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 10:51 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > For packagers, developers, and sysadmins needing python-fedora client > > code, > > this should mean you need to make no changes. yum inst

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 02:30:46PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Michael Schwendt writes: > > > The separate "bar" package still is entirely irrelevant > > It kills your entire argument. > AFAICS, your insistance that it is a blocker means that you aren't seeing something correctly. -Toshio

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 04:15:49PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Your whole argument is just void. There is not a single difference > between "external" packages and (sub-)packages. > Here's a couple differences: (libfoo-1.0 building subpackage foo-utils) is licensed LGPLv2 (libfoo-1.0.1 buildi

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 04:40:20PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 08:27:13AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > Rightly or wrongly, upstream libfoo-1.0 has some additional utilities that > > access the PrivateData. Because the utilities are bui

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 05:28:56PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 05:25:17PM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > > Third party code built against -devel and depending only on the SONAME is > > fine > > in this situation as it sticks to the published ABI. In-tree code that pl

Re: question regarding Fedora packaging

2011-08-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 01:24:16PM +0200, Olivier Sallou wrote: > Hi, > I have a question regarding packaging for Fedora. > > I want to package an application that depends on jets3t. It is packaged in > Jpackage. > I see in fact that many Java packages are available in JPackage. > > What is the u

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Tom Callaway wrote: > On 08/18/2011 06:28 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Wed, 17.08.11 16:43, Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > >> Oh, I just noticed this: > >> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activatio

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 01:12:31PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: > > On 08/18/2011 06:28 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> On Wed, 17.08.11 16:43, Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> > >>> Oh, I just noticed this: > >>> > >>> https://fedoraproj

Re: systemd not in critpath

2011-08-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:13:48PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > Neither bodhi nor mash appears to consider systemd to be in the critical > path. Why is this? Is that the way we want it to be? > We should get that corrected. notting has ben promising to get a script that integrates with mas

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:29:33AM -0400, Deepak Bhole wrote: > > Andrew Haley and I just had a chat about this. > > We both agree that weaning off the 1.6 dependency is the best long-term > solution. We essentially want it so that nothing in Fedora needs 1.6. > > That said, we will continue to

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 03:46:40PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > I think that would have to go to FESCo for approval or at least a > decision, its a fairly major change to happen post alpha where all > major changes should have landed already and all major mass rebuilds > should have been done.

Re: Compiler as Require

2011-08-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:11:11PM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:34:22 -0300 > Sergio Belkin wrote: > > > Hi > > Is it OK include a compiler (eg gcc-c++) for a "-devel" subpackage? > > I'd say, it depends on the use case... > > Why do you want to do that? > > * Only to hav

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:35:50PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > * dojo/dijit - F/OSS, packaged > Currently for any javascript library you are allowed to bundle. In the future this may not be the case so you may have a lot of work to do to maintain this application in the future. Note that

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:49:09AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:35 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: > > Dne 31.8.2011 19:31, Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > > > they all came from the same version of upstream jquery. And delivering > > > just one large jquery that can be used

Re: Best practices for patch management on RPM based packages?

2011-09-06 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:16:44AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > Most of the packages I work with have very few patches so it's not all > that difficult, but there are a couple of packages I'm working with > that have a lot of patches and one of them has a very active upstream > (which is a good thi

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 01:38:09PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: > On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 07:38:53PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > plus a trac ticket. Whether it has some practical effect or not, it's > > clearly against the current policy, and what I'm questioning is whether > > Bodhi shoul

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 07:17:35AM -0700, Christopher Aillon wrote: > On 09/07/2011 05:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > As someone on the other side of this (although not strongly, I could > > be convinced), I don't think thats my concern at all... > > > > * As a maintainer you should only be pushi

Re: SysV to systemd conversion: please double-check the default and post-upgrade state of your services

2011-09-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:59:06AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, everyone. > > I'm starting to get a bit concerned about one aspect of the SysV to > systemd conversion process. I've come across three separate bugs where > the default and/or post-upgrade state of services was incorrect: in t

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2011-09-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 02:33:07PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 20:22 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > Such packages would be broken and would fail to link without hardening > > or at least have text relocations too. Packagers shouldn't rely on > > this spec hack to fix up

Re: unison formal review

2011-09-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 08:55:43AM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> On 09/27/2011 07:46 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/unison213 >> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/unis

Re: Is there a mono developer in the house? Need help building moonlight.

2011-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
There's also a mono list:: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/mono -Toshio On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 09:53:02AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I'm trying to package moonlight for possible inclusion at RPM Fusion > but I'm having some issues. > > 1. pkg-config problem: > > I'm curren

Re: unison formal review

2011-10-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 10:05:09PM +0200, Gregor Tätzner wrote: > > Another idea: Just put in the package *unison* the latest release and when a > new shiny version has been released we provide a compat version, so move > unison to *unisonXYZ* and update the *unison* package regularly. > > I su

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:13:46AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/04/2011 08:04 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > > I wrote: > >> What should I use for the release number in a spec when upstream does > >> not have releases, and *only* has git hashes? It's not a prerelease > >> since it is not clear th

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 05:58:33PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 4.10.2011 16:38, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > The date should not go there > > as you cannot tell if upstream will someday switch to an actual version > > string (which will then need an Epoch to upgrade

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:32:28PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 2011-10-04 12:01, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > So my solyution: > > foo-0-1.20110120git.fc16 vs > > > > Your solution: > > foo-20110120-1.20110120git.fc16 > > > > (Since it'

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 06:53:50AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/04/2011 09:01 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > Now do we want to put the git hash into the version > > field too? > Yes, because "git checkouts by date" are not sufficiently reliable to &g

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:03:34AM -0600, Peter Gueckel wrote: > Thomas Spura wrote: > > >> So, why are you using devel? > > > > This happened on F-15. > > > > This is the devel list, not the general list. Sorry. > Although the branch for rawhide was once named devel, the naming of this as dev

Re: yubikey

2011-10-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:11:39PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > > > As far as I know if you burn the key you will lose the ability to use > > the yubikey's servers and I'm guessing coincidentally the lastpass as > > well. I have seen that you are a

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 08:19:27PM +0200, Henrik Nordström wrote: > > And why is so much of the Fedora inftrastructure relying on plain text > password exchanges (within SSL, but still plain text at the Fedora > servers) when there is both HTTP digest authentication (no plaintext > seen by Fedora

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 09:14:46AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 02:59:31PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > 2) We've found PRIVATE keys on our servers > > By all means educate these users with a large clue-stick. > The problem is this: Fedora contributors are a group

Re: yubikey

2011-10-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:45:35AM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:02:36 -0700 > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:11:39PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > > > > > &

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:55:59PM -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 10:43 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > >> One ssh key per machine makes alot more sense.  For outgoing ssh > >> connections from -- say -- shell.fedorap

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:13:08PM +0200, Henrik Nordström wrote: > tor 2011-10-13 klockan 12:32 -0600 skrev Kevin Fenzi: > > > Currently there's not a way to do this, but there really should be. > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2977 > t > Not even uploading an empty

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:27:38AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > NOTE (just for Jon :): This is for RPM Fusion but the question is a > technical one. > > I'm looking at packaging zfs for Fedora (via RPM Fusion) and it has a > single source package but contains two spec files. One for the > utilitie

Re: Systemd unit file: Can/Should ExecStart and ExecStop run a script?

2011-10-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 06:53:12PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Wed, 19.10.11 18:28, Richard Shaw (hobbes1...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Well, as I had already mentioned I more or less relented, so I'm all > >> for the a/v group metho

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 09:48:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > drago01 writes: > > 2011/10/24 "J�hann B. Gu�mundsson" : > >> On 10/24/2011 05:42 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >>> FWIW, what the tomcat6 maintainers did is that they just ignored the > >>> guideline which says that you cannot migrate to sys

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 06:49:04AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 10/24/2011 03:52 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > > I'm really getting to the point where that's a completely unacceptable > > restriction. I've already blown off one mysql bug-fix release in F15 > > because of this restriction, an

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 07:56:59AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > The current packaging guidelines require packages that update from sysv > > init scripts to systemd scripts to provide conversion triggers that are > > fired on the basis of an NVR

Re: yubikey

2011-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:40:29AM +0200, François Kooman wrote: > On 10/25/11 10:23 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote: > > Francois: you should already be able to use yubikey for FAS, bodhi and > > ssh. You don't need the yubikey prompt: just put your username, go to > > the password field and then press the

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:57:59PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > So do I. So let's come back to the original discussion. > I've added some points from re-reading the FHS and from this thread onto the Feature page. The immediate suggestion I have is that you should consider splitting the / => /usr

Re: yubikey

2011-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 09:17:39PM +0200, fkoo...@tuxed.net wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Correct -- it's not currently two-factor (it's either this or that).  We've > > been kicking around whether we want to make it two-fac

Re: UsrMove feature

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:18:42PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > On 10/26/2011 03:07 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > >> Having said that, the split between /sbin and /bin is not a truly > >> historical one, ie. it didn't exist in V7. I think it was added by

Re: Improvements Eclipse Installation

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:20:46AM -0400, sami wagiaalla wrote: > Hi, > > The way we currently install Eclipse plugins in Fedora is incorrect and > somewhat fragile. > > RPM places all the plugin artifacts in the proper directories. However > that does not update the eclipse metadata. This mean

Re: yubikey

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:56:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > FAS and bodhi are single sign on (iirc, everything on > > admin.fedoraproject.org). > > Well, Bodhi seems to do a damn good job of forgetting you

Re: yubikey

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:11:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 09:57 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:56:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > FA

Re: java-1.7.0-openjdk breaks java detection in LibreOffice?

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:58:30PM +0100, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > On 19:58 Wed 26 Oct , Heiko Adams wrote: > > Am 26.10.2011 19:06, schrieb Jared K. Smith: > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Heiko Adams > > > wrote: > > >> is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk breaking LibreOffic

Re: UsrMove feature

2011-10-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:34:45AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > On 10/26/2011 06:21 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > In context, at least, this is wrong advice as it's a violation of the FHS: > > > > http://pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE22 > > > >

Re: yubikey

2011-10-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 08:47:20AM +0200, Iain Arnell wrote: > > It's not the 20 minute timeout that bothers me. It's the damn CSRF > avoiding "I am human" process that bugs the hell out of me. At least > pkgdb has a "verify login" button on each page so I'm only one click > away from really being

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:47:04AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > On 10/27/2011 08:35 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > > The strategy is: > > - Replace binaries in /bin /sbin /usr/sbin /lib /lib64 with symlinks to > their counterpart in /usr. Symlinking is done in rpm %post. Symlinks are > part of the fi

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
One thing I'm not clear on is when the switch between the initramfs and the actual / filesystem is performed. For instance, what does the user get if they boot single user? What do they get if they boot single user and /usr is on an nfs filesystem? -Toshio pgpC7SFu4zoLJ.pgp Description: PGP si

Re: Orphaning packages

2011-11-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 08:54:13AM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/11/11 21:56, James Bowes wrote: > > ipython -- An enhanced interactive Python shell mod_wsgi -- A WSGI > > interface for Python web applications in Apache > > > I'm interes

Re: convert init.d to systemd, how to determine which python is installed

2011-11-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 10:10:03AM -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > HekaFS runs a daemon from init. It's a Bottle (python-based) http server. > > In order to work on, e.g. RHEL6 in addition to Fedora, the old init > script has: > ... > vercmd="from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; prin

Re: convert init.d to systemd, how to determine which python is installed

2011-11-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 03:17:47PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > Just out of curiosity are there any guidelines forbidding creating a > symbolic link to that file from /usr/sbin > > So instead of having a unit file that looks like this... > > [Unit] > Description=HekaFS an Clustered

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 04:35:07PM +0100, Remi Collet wrote: > You need to open a infrastructure ticket and ask for this package to be tag > in f15 buildroot. > > Then you can launch other package build > Then you can submit a single update with all packages > s/infrastructure/rel-eng/ otherwise

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:42:11AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 00:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 03/31/2011 12:01 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > > What more would you want? "Fedora packages must follow the FHS. 'Must > > > follow' means that if you don't follow it

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 01:22:14PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 31.03.11 13:13, Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) wrote: > > > >> > > >> Applications must never create or require special files or > > >> subdirectories in the root directory. Other locations in the FHS > > >> hiera

Re: Non-responsive maintainer - Chris Ricker

2011-04-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:53:41AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 11:14:54 -0700 > Christopher Aillon wrote: > > I'd like to propose we orphan all his packages. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/kaboom as > > nothing's really changed since the nonresponsive

Re: Fedora SPEC Review Tool

2011-04-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:00:08PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 4/6/2011 11:11, Jeffrey Ness wrote: > > As I'm new to the community and RPM Package Review (and development), I > > figured a tool to assist with reviews would be a nice time saver. > > > > With that said I have a simple Pytho

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:00:33PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > 2011/4/13 Honza Horak : > > Hi, > > > > I'm working on systemd unit file for ypbind and found some problems, > > that I'm not sure about: > > > > 1) if I use systemctl enable/disable instead of chkconfig in %post and > >

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:00:18PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 13.04.11 22:55, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > > > > > 2011/4/13 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > > > It would be good if maintainers could take their time and assign > > > themselves to their components here [1] if

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:41:58PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 04/13/2011 09:17 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:00:18PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> On Wed, 13.04.11 22:55, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: &g

Outage: FAS and dependent web apps - 2011-05-02 21:00 UTC

2011-04-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
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Re: unison updates

2011-04-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 09:08:10PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: > On 04/19/2011 05:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Actually it looks like I was even lazier than that and just built it > > from source. I seem to be running 2.32.52. I just needed whatever > > version would interoperate with my Mand

Need a python3 person for docutils

2011-05-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Hey all, Currently docutils is unable to update in Fedora 15 because of bugs in the python3 compatibility. Is there anyone who cares about python3 here who is willing to take a look at fixing it? Otherwise, we're stuck on the current version of docutils (for both python2 and python3) and the pyth

Re: Need a python3 person for docutils

2011-05-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:02:27PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:08:07AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Hey all, Currently docutils is unable to update in Fedora 15 because of bugs > > in the python3 compatibility. Is there anyone who cares abo

Potential python-docutils license change

2011-05-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
To get python-docutils building with python-3.2 I've upgraded the F15 and Rawhide versions to a snapshot of 0.8. Unfortunately, this version brings in new code that's licensed under the Apache license. This would change the license from "Public Domain and MIT and Python and GPLv2" to "Public Doma

Re: Potential python-docutils license change

2011-05-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > To get python-docutils building with python-3.2 I've upgraded the F15 and > Rawhide versions to a snapshot of 0.8.  Unfortunately, this version brings > in new code that's licensed under the Apache license.  This would c

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_MIN & GID_MIN from 500 to 1000 > in upgraded shadow-utils. > > Where? > /etc/login.defs. > shadow-utils-4.1.4.3-1.fc16 > > I suppose UID/GID_MIN=1000 is more common(other distros, upst

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:25:44 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I'd like to inform you that I have changed UID_

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
2011/5/25 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > On 05/25/2011 12:30 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:25:44 AM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Peter Vrabec  wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I

Re: 9base in Fedora?

2011-05-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:24:08AM +0200, Petr Sabata wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:19:43AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 02:23:44PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > As I understand it, the best way to do this in Fedora, with respect to > > > > same ideas in this

Re: UID_MIN & GID_MIN changed

2011-05-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 09:27:21AM +0200, Peter Vrabec wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 08:07:32 PM Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Peter Vrabec wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:25:44 PM To

Re: 9base in Fedora?

2011-05-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 12:23:42AM +0200, Petr Sabata wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:16:02AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:24:08AM +0200, Petr Sabata wrote: > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:19:43AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > &

Re: [FHS] helper scripts location

2011-06-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 12:14:45PM +0200, 80 wrote: > Hi, > > I'm reviewing osc and osc-source_validators (osc is Opensuse Build > Service CLI, the latter a plugin to the former). > An issue arose about helpers script location: > 1) Fedora packaging guidelines suggests helpers *should go* > /usr/l

Re: [FHS] helper scripts location

2011-06-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:23:54PM +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote: > Le 10/06/2011 18:56, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : > > > > I don't actually see this. Could you point me to the quote and section? > > > > > "/usr/libincludes object files, libraries, and inte

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:03:33PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > for decades. Fedora 14's init system isn't that different to the first version > of RHL (4.0) I started using back in 96. > This is somewhat misleading. There have been many rewrites of the init system in the past decade. In f

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 08:19:03AM +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:03:33PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > >> for decades. Fedora 14's init system isn't that different to the fi

Re: [FHS] helper scripts location

2011-06-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 02:27:55PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 03:16:45PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 13.06.11 13:41, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 02:18:18PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >

Re: Orphan packages owned by farnold?

2011-06-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 01:44:24PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/farnold (cc'ed) > > gnome-schedule hasn't been updated in a long time and farnold seems to > be inactive in Fedora as well and hasn't responded to > > https://bugzilla.r

Re: Orphan packages owned by farnold?

2011-06-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 09:54:23PM +0200, Frank Arnold wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 15.06.2011, 13:44 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > > Hi > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/farnold (cc'ed) > > > > gnome-schedule hasn't been updated in a long time and farnold seems to > >

Re: Queries regarding packaging of static libraries

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 03:54:34PM +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 11:17 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > The correct way is to patch the Makefiles so they can build shared > > libraries, to send those patches upstream, and to unbundle any bundled > > libraries. It's quite a

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:55:43PM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > I'd take pitivi and xscorch, maybe others, I'll have a longer look later. Done pgpSni56nQ1l0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:00:10PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I'll take "google-droid-fonts". > Done. -Toshio pgpL1OYkex3df.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:04:46PM +0200, Jarosław Górny wrote: > Hi, > > Wiadomość napisana w dniu 2011-06-20, o godz. 19:34, przez Toshio > Kuratomi: > > > Due to the requirement for contributors to sign the FPCA by Thursday > > of last > > week, certa

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:52:36PM +0200, Matthias Runge wrote: > > I'll take these: > > > django-contact-form > > django-notification > > django-pagination > > django-sct > > django-tagging > Done. Note that three of these have EPEL branches that are already orphaned: https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:21:09PM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > E > > frama-c > > gappa > > ltl2ba > > minisat2 > Done pgp4IINKDRRBQ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 02:37:14PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 10:34 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Due to the requirement for contributors to sign the FPCA by Thursday of last > > week, certain package owners who haven't yet signed will

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:44:16PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:34:10 -0700, > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > Please reply to this thread if you'd like to take any packages or ping me on > > IRC and I'll reply to this thread

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:06:03PM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > I'll take the following two: > > > ctapi-common > > pyOpenSSL > Done. Note that ctapi-common has EL-5 and EL-6 branches and pyOpenSSL has an EL-5 branch. I've orphaned the packages in those branches -- you can log into pkgdb and t

Re: Packages that will be orphaned

2011-06-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 03:43:13PM -0400, Randall Berry wrote: > On 06/20/2011 01:34 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > --snip > > > aldo Co-Maintainer, will take ownership > > ax25-apps -- Co-Maintainer, will take ownership > > ax25-tools -- Co-Maintainer, will

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