Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 01:45:07AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Charley Wang wrote: > > Please note that many of the packages may be failing because of a few > > DSO's. Further exploration is needed to evaluate this possibility so > > we can apply one patch to the source of the problem instead of d

Re: nss version went backwards ?

2010-01-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 07:25:23AM -0800, Elio Maldonado wrote: > On 01/12/2010 10:42 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > > My f12 + updates + updates-testing box is unhappy with the current state of > > the repo. > > Yum complains.. > > > > Transaction Check Error: > >package nss-3.12.5-2.fc12.x86_64 (wh

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:56:23PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > python3 is in rawhide and I'm hoping to build out the Python 3 stack > (help would be most welcome!) > > I've run into a snag with the plan of building out parallel python 2 and > python 3 stacks [1]: What do we do about executables

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:31:41PM +0100, Thomas Spura wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:54 -0500 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:56:23PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > > > python3 is in rawhide and I'm hoping to build out the Python 3 sta

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:45:05AM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 10:55 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > This reasoning (needed for testing) doesn't appeal to me at all. The > > general case should be that we switch applications in rawhide from python2 &

Re: Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:12:14PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 00:00 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: > > > xqilla-2.1.3-0.6.fc11.src.rpm > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511425 > > This one also has a major policy breach issue: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/s

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:39:17PM -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 05:13:29AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On 01/15/2010 08:17 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: > > Unfortunately, this has proven to be hard/impossible so far. > > > > >> perl-Class-InsideOut-1.09-2.fc11.src.rpm > > >>

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:12:03AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > >> widelands-0-0.13.Build13.fc11.src.rpm > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511430 > >> xpilot-ng-4.7.2-16.fc11.src.rpm > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511717 > > Ah, how nice, these 2 are orphaned

Re: Globally-visible executables with parallel python 2 and python 3 stacks

2010-01-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:45:24PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > But what's the benefit of alternatives for this? Is the intent to provide > sysadmins a way to change which python version of an app would be the system > default? > > If not, why not just pick what we want to be the default for

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:55:13AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:44 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > > Imho the only real problem from your list is, if a package is > > unmaintained, because if it is maintained, the maintainer usually uses > > it, otherwise he would just drop

Re: Can MMX be expected to be supported for F12+?

2010-01-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:31:11AM +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: > On 01/19/2010 12:18 AM, Till Maas wrote: > > Hiyas, > > > > now that F12+ is built for i686, can I expect that all Fedora x83 > > supported CPUs in F12+ support MMX? I have a package (john) that can > > then be made simpler. > > >

Building sources twice

2010-01-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
We have a few packages that need to build themselves from their sources twice. For instance, vim builds three times (a minimal version for /bin/vi, and two versions with more dependencies for /usr/bin/vim and /usr/bin/gvim). Working on the python3 Guidelines, it looks like we'll have some more wi

Re: Orphaning Candidate packages for removal due to FTBFS, implications

2010-01-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:27:04PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:55 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 20:44 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > > > > Imho the only real problem from your list is, if a package is > > > unmaintained, because if it is maintain

Re: Building sources twice

2010-01-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:47:54PM +, Joe Orton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:10:34PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > We have a few packages that need to build themselves from their sources > > twice. For instance, vim builds three times (a minimal version for /bin/

Heads up, API beaking Xerces-c update in rawhide

2010-01-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Good day all, As a side effect of looking into the xqilla FTBFS bug, the new xqilla maintainer and I found that xerces-c is terribly out of date. We're shipping xerces-c-2.8 and Apache has been shipping xerces-c-3.x since 2008. The last 2.x release was in 2007. The xqilla maintainer is also goin

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi

Re: Orphaning xerces-c

2010-01-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Sorry for the empty message I was going to say: I've changed the pkg owner to jonathanrobie as per the message earlier in this thread. I was going to look into the bug that's at the root of this yesterday but too many other projects came up so I didn't get around to it. Looking at that today. -

Re: gnome-desktop bump

2010-01-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi

Re: boost update status

2010-01-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi

Re: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-01-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:57:25AM +0200, Sergey Rudchenko wrote: > On 01/28/2010 03:03 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Taking ownership of an orphan on the devel collection will prevent them > > from being blocked. Remember, it is OK to let software die. Don't view > > this as a list of things that

Re: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-01-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:01:25AM +0200, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: > How can I take jna-posix? I need it for one of my projects but I don't see a > way to take it in pkgdb. I'm speaking for the devel branch because it is > possible to take F-12 branch. > jna-posix has been retired rather than s

Re: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-01-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:19:05AM +0200, David Juran wrote: > On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 17:03 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > It's that time of the release cycle again, to purge the orphans before > > we get to feature freeze. Any unblocked orphans will be purged by the > > feature freeze. A list of

Re: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-01-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:03:21PM +0100, Christian Krause wrote: > Hi, > > On 01/28/2010 08:25 AM, David Juran wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 17:03 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > >> Unblocked orphan gtk-sharp > > > > Was gnome-common and gtk-sharp really intended to be orphaned? Removing > > t

Re: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-01-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 03:04:20PM -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote: > Colin Walters wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:01:25AM +0200, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: > >> > >>> How can I tak

Re: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*

2010-02-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:13:06PM -0500, Jarod Wilson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jarod Wilson wrote: > >> I have no idea if it actually requires them to be alongside the > >> executables, but hopefully the link will help. > > > > It doesn't. Also, ugh. I'm the one who actually rev

Re: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*

2010-02-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 01:38:13PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > 1) The present packages need to be fixecd. Sounds like fipscheck, hmaccalc, > and openssh. They are violating the FHS which is prohibited by the > Guidelines. Ralf, have you opened bugs? > > 2) We need

Re: Orphaning a few packages

2010-02-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 08:39:15AM -0600, Adam Miller wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Debarshi Ray wrote: > > I have orphaned ldtp and pida. However there is something wrong wiwht > > glade3. Pressing the "release ownership" button is not orphaning it. > > Any ideas? > > > > Cheers, > > D

Re: Two FAS accounts for the same person - permitted?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:47:13AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Till Maas wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:01:25AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > It's not automatically enforcable that's true but we catch you doing it > > > (and we have) and we'll do something abou

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:28:37AM -0600, Adam Miller wrote: > Hello all, > I wanted to bring a few things up and I wanted to bring them up on > de...@lists.fp.o because this is where most people spend their time. > > First off: "Does letting thousands of contributors do what they > want h

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:28:01AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, inode0 wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > >> And to answer your question about what "isnt' broken".  I suggest you look > >> at our http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statis

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:15:15AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:02 -0600, Adam Miller wrote: > > I will agree with that, I can see an application space for certain > > decisions when presented with conflict, but how often does this happen > > and how is it currently, as we

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:54:37PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said: > > I think that the Fedora Project's target audience needs to be people who > > want to work on open source operating systems. If you want to market the > >

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 03:17:30PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said: > > My other mail suggests that one way to work with this is to create new > > conflicting packages that are optimized for the different usages. There's > >

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 11:43:32AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 13:15 -0600, Adam Miller wrote: > > > > Your example doesn't work, Xubuntu is still bound to the package set > > in the Ubuntu repositories in the same sense that the Xfce Spin is > > bound to the package set in

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:11:47PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 14:36 -0600, Adam Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > > > Take a random downstream app. (Firefox is an example, but there are many > > > others.) Right now, it only ne

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 04:16:30PM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > > Not to reduce the debate to too much of a soundbite, but it almost > > > seems like attempting to decide whether we want Fedora to be Debian, > >

Re: Python 2.7 status: python2.7 is in dist-f14

2010-08-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 10:17:27AM +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 08:32:07PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > >> Rawhide (dist-f14) now has python 2.7 > > > >  I have a machine which run rawhide since F11 times. Rec

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 01:23:24PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 19:56 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > So I'm syncing up our school's local mirror over our rather slow > > internet connection and I notice that the root-doc subpackage (which is > > part of the root package) has

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 03:19:46PM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:24 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's > >&g

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 01:45:08AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's > > ridiculously large but perhaps we could make some sort of guideline about > > not duplicating forma

Re: Some questions about on Fedora

2010-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:27:20AM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: > 2010/8/10 Remi Collet : > > Le 09/08/2010 09:38, Chen Lei a écrit : > >> It seems silvercity is packaged in many distributions, e.g. gentoo > >> freebsd mandriva PLD. > > > > It fact, RPM I found only provide the python library. > > > > Fr

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
I'll reply here but I'm also bringing together some things in the rest of the thread... sorry about that. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 01:19:29PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > Since 2006 I counted 18 slips (I think one or two of those may just be a > single slip listed twice). Lets not yell, lets no

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:20:04PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Chris Adams wrote: > > What if it isn't a bug, but just different behavior? > > Do you really think it's acceptable for a library to terminate the whole > application when an error happens??? There's a reason rpmlint complains > lou

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:21:50PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 17:17 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > On Friday, August 13, 2010 05:09:17 pm Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > > Then we have to push broken updates, policy says so and it's ok, so > > >

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:20:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > (Sorry about the length of this email) > > Python 2.7 deprecated the PyCObject API in favor of a new "capsule" API. > http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html#capsules > > The deprecations are set to "ignore" by default, so in

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:24:07PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 19:38 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:20:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > Possible ways forward: > > > (a) don't fix this; treat enablin

Re: More python 2.7 fun: deprecation of PyCObject API

2010-08-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 02:03:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 21:57 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:20:51PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > If this is okay, then I'd modify your point (a) to be this plan: > &g

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 02:10:16PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > As I mentioned briefly on IRC, I think the problem is that we're kinda > stuck between two models: [snip] > > For instance, right now, according to the Ideal Plan, everyone should > have started on their Big Plans for F15 in Ra

Re: Python 3.2a1 in rawhide

2010-08-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 04:31:08PM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:48:31 -0400 > David Malcolm wrote: > [snip] > > > > So you'll need to update the %files for python3 subpackages, listing > > something like: > > foo/__pycache__ > > to capture the directory and the bytecode fi

Re: Python 3.2a1 in rawhide

2010-08-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:19:53AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > That sounds like the only place where this convention is useful. > > How about .py files in /usr/bin/ ? We currently don't byte-compile the > .py files in standard PATH, but maybe since they will go into a > __pycache__ subdirecto

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 23.08.10 13:59, Jesse Keating (jkeat...@j2solutions.net) wrote: > > > On 8/23/10 1:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > I understand your desire to get your code out there in the real world. But > > > Fedora really can't a

Re: rawhide report: 20100901 changes

2010-09-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:20:34PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: > python3-PyQt4-4.7.4-2.fc14.i686 requires python(abi) = 0:3.1 > python3-PyQt4-4.7.4-2.fc14.x86_64 requires python(abi) = 0:3.1 > python3-PyQt4-devel-4.7.4-2.fc14.i686 requires python(abi) = 0:3.1 > python3-PyQt

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:02:43PM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote: > Hi folks, > > FESCo has heard a few complaints of cases where packages were newer (in > some cases several versions newer) in F-14 than in rawhide. So this is > just a friendly reminder that you should be updating rawhide > (dist-f15

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 10:43:40AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi writes: > > When you do an update in F-14 and rely on inheritance to get the package > > into rawhide, there is a problem. That package will not go to rawhide until > > it hits stable in F-14. &g

Re: newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:56:23AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > I just hit this on an f13 box. > > Transaction Check Error: > package libgcc-4.4.4-11.fc12.x86_64 (which is newer than > libgcc-4.4.4-10.fc13.i686) is already installed > > > Could the buildsystem be changed to prevent newer NVRs

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 07:02:33PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:48:13 -0400 > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > Hi FESCo members, > > ...snip... > > > Only 5 of the 9 FESCo members voted on this issue. If all 9 had voted, > > even with the current 3 for / 2 against vote, systemd c

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:31:50PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:27 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > Personally, I'm very sad because of deferring systemd to F15. It may > > cause slipping of SysV-free Fedora to F16, full year wait from now. And > > integration as ses

Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?

2010-09-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 09:59:51PM +, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:13:42 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > No, I'm not advocating PgSQL 9 for F14, however, it shouldn't be so > > far-fetched that Fedora could have any software at any time. > > A Fedora update poli

Re: Fedora "backports" repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:35:47PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 01:51:03 +0200, > Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > > > Setting up "official" backport repo will avoid repos fragmentation. > > Keeping all cool updates in one place appears to be a reasonable idea. > > Am I r

Re: pushing updates for FTBFS

2010-09-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 03:25:25PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:06:09 -0700 > Eric Smith wrote: > > > A bug was filed against meshlab because of an FTBFS for Fedora 14. I > > added a patch to resolve it and submitted an update. After seven > > days with no feedback, I was

Re: pushing updates for FTBFS

2010-09-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:38:50PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:37:44 -0400 > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > For (unreleased) F14, I think that the arugment that future work on > > the package is better off starting with something that works than

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100923 changes

2010-09-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 02:44:34PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:01:16PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Is it really necessary to include entire package change logs in the > > rpm changelog? What is wrong with referencing either the included > > changelog or a URL

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100923 changes

2010-09-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 05:43:47PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 02:44:34PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:01:16PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >>

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100923 changes

2010-09-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:55:08PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > I would much prefer to generate the git log from the rpm changelog than > > vice-versa, though. THe git log is going to contain more entries than the > > rpm changelog as little thing

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 02:19:02PM +0200, Sven Lankes wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 06:37:33PM +0900, Takanori MATSUURA wrote: > > > If someone implement > > --enable-system-libvpx > > --enable-system-vorbis > > --enable-system-ogg > > --enable-system-theora > > into the mozilla source, we can

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:29:38PM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > I yelled pretty loudly when Fedora first packaged libvpx because > fedora took a _known vulnerable_ version which Mozilla and opera were > patching around but where the upstream hadn't yet merged the fixes. > > Things are more m

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 02:22:36PM -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:29:38PM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > > I yelled pretty loudly when Fedora first packaged libvpx because > > fedora took a _known vulnerable_ version which Mozilla and op

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 02:56:34PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Kevin Kofler wrote on 02.10.2010 00:56: > > Sven Lankes wrote: > >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577653 > >> Looking at how rigorous new packages with bundled libs are fought we > >> should really stop shipping fir

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:22:57AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 08:34 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > that's the entire point of having trademarks. Free software projects are > > > obliged to allow you to access

Re: not sure how to fix locale packaging

2010-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:59:44AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > mercurial has hard-wired to install .mo files under python_sitearch, and > i18n.py has hard-coded to look there. > > On fedora, find-lang.sh is usually used to find these files, but expects to > find them in e.g., /usr/share/locale >

FPC Meeting -- Guideline Changes

2010-10-06 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
At todays FPC meeting, the FPC approved several guideline changes. = Rationale for Conflicts Guideline = https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/18 6 +1, no 0, no -1. This was purely informational and requires no changes to how you package = Appropriate Content in Changelogs = https://fedorahosted

2 More Packaging Guideline Updates

2010-10-06 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
There's 2 more Guidelines that were approved in past meetings that have just been written up. = Directory ownership update = https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/5 6 +1 votes , no 0 votes, and no -1 votes This update makes it clearer that packages like gtk-doc do not need to be required simply to

Re: trademarks [was: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs]

2010-10-06 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 04:55:46PM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: > I give +1 to this. On the other hand Fedora also is (was?) a project > where individual package maintainers had the biggest influence on what > packages ship if they do not cross some fundamental legal limits. This > changed in many ways

Re: trademarks [was: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs]

2010-10-06 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 02:00:50PM +1000, Brendan Jones wrote: > On 10/07/2010 12:10 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > But I agree that having a strict requirement because it's felt that the > > issues that are raised by allowing the requirement to be violated are very > &g

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 08:54:12PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > > I have one and I've played with it in fedora. There is however an important > catch. The server and the yubikey share the same AES symmetric key. This means > that if the yubikey is used for multiple sites by one user, that user is

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 12:07:34AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:30:43PM -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > The newer yubikey hardware has provision for two AES keys but I'm not sure > > how that works and whether it actually allows you to us

Re: fedpkg koji error

2010-10-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 10:57:58AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/8/10 10:52 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: > > rhel-6 beta2's > > nss-3.12.6-3.el6.x86_64 > > anyway yesterday morning i was not able to build, but afternoot after a > > new cert ie

Re: fedpkg koji error

2010-10-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 08:09:32PM +0200, Farkas Levente wrote: > On 10/08/2010 07:57 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On 10/8/10 10:52 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: > >> rhel-6 beta2's > >> nss-3.12.6-3.el6.x86_64 > >> anyway yesterday morning i was not able to build, but afternoot after a > >> new cert i

Re: Who is working on python3 packages?

2010-10-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 03:57:07PM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:22:14 -0400 > Neal Becker wrote: > > > Thomas Spura wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:36:23 -0400 > > > Neal Becker wrote: > > > > > >> I have started porting to python3. So far I have a patch for > > >

Re: PyQt + python3?

2010-10-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 02:45:38PM +0200, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > On 10/20/2010 04:11 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > > Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > > > >> On 10/20/2010 02:38 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > >>> Has anyone attempted a pyqt for python3? > >> > >> I did. It failed (not on Fedora though and

[no subject]

2010-10-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
For those who aren't also subscribed to the python-dev mailing list :-), Dave and Neal's posts about fpconst sparked some interest in porting work there. Talking with Barry Warsaw we'd like to use the python-port...@python.org mailing list to coordinate efforts to port so that distros can help eac

Re: PyQt + python3?

2010-10-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 04:47:21PM +0200, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > On 10/22/2010 03:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> Thanks for sharing this! I've added a page on python.org's wiki for > >> porting tips for python3 and pyqt:

Re: xz-5.0.0 in rawhide + soname bump

2010-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:02:41AM +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:59:22PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > The current build needs untagging anyway. > > > > I've untagged it and mailed Jindrich. > > > > Updating a rpm dep is not easy. You will need to rebuild rpm static,

Re: Is python-libs segfaulting behind mod_python for anyone in F-14?

2010-11-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 07:40:59PM +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 13:45 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: > > I have a viewvc install in F-14, behind mod_python, that keeps > > segfaulting Apache through segfaults > > in /usr/lib64/libpython2.7.so.1.0. > > Could someone please patch

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 12:28:22PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > If we go ahead and do something about that problem, what about just using > -fno-omit-frame-pointer during rawhide builds, and then switching it off > at branch time ? > Just figuring out what this entails: would this mean doing two ma

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 11:58:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 11/04/2010 10:22 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > 2- ABRT should keep track of unresponsive users. If a user has an > > outstanding "needinfo?" flag for the bugs sent through ABRT, he > > shouldn't be able to send a new bug

Re: Should gpg use alternatives?

2010-11-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 05:20:02PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Should gpg 1.x be installed as /usr/bin/gpg1, gpg 2.x be installed as > /usr/bin/gpg2 (as is already the case), and /usr/bin/gpg replaced > with a symlink managed by alternatives? > If you check the list archives, this has come up

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:06:37PM +0800, Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 05:10:01PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. > > It's that time again for Fedora 16. > > > > New this go-round is that we are also blocki

Re: Inclusion/Exclusion of BuildRoot tag and %defattr

2011-07-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:20:30PM +0100, Damian L Brasher wrote: > Hi List > > Referring to sections of Packaging Guidelines: > > No longer necessary to explicitly include %defattr at the beginning of % > files. > > and the fact that the BuildRoot tag, eve if defined, is ignored. > > After rev

Re: Self Introduction

2011-07-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 06:27:50PM -0700, Travis Davies wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Fellow Linux enthusiast here. > I am working on developing the netperf rpm package for Fedora. I use > this software > daily at work and thought why not be the package maintainer, right? > Will of course need you

Re: Inclusion/Exclusion of BuildRoot tag and %defattr

2011-07-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:14:48PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "TK" == Toshio Kuratomi writes: > > TK> They are now optional but there's no need to force people to be rid > TK> of them. In particular, some people like to build a pa

Re: how to declare %config with a list of files ?

2011-07-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 07:45:57AM +0200, Olivier Sallou wrote: > Hi, > I have in my package config (/etc) a large list of files. > Is there a way to define the %config from a list of file rather than > listing individually each of the file ? > > Something like: > > %config -f list_of_my_etc_file

Re: [RPM Spec] Shall we use Local time or UTC for %changelog date?

2011-07-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 03:27:58PM +0200, David Tardon wrote: > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 02:34:45PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 22.7.2011 14:31, Dmitry Butskoy napsal(a): > > > Ding Yi Chen wrote: > > >> Hi list, > > >> I recently ran into an interesting problem related to time zone. > > >> >

Re: Handling lamson

2011-07-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:26:34PM +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > I am planning to package funnel, a software for online submissions and > voting of talks as part of the FUDCon India effort. One if its > dependencies is flask-mail[0] and in turn, lamson[1] is a dependency > for it which was

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 02:00:24PM -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote: > Hi, > > Just something I wanted to bring to attention: > > Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate) > on 28 July, 2011. > I think this would be an important feature to include for the Fedora >

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:30:23AM -0400, Deepak Bhole wrote: > * Toshio Kuratomi [2011-07-23 20:03]: > > The alpha change deadline is a week and three days away so this is very > > likely too late. If you want to try to get an exception to get this in, you > > need to get

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:07:25PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > What's seeming like a better option is to bump the package's Epoch > for the systemd-native release. > > Discuss. Epoch would work for this. We didn't put Epoch into the guidelines because there's a general consensus that epoch is ea

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:22:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 14:00 -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just something I wanted to bring to attention: > > > > Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate) > > on 28 July, 2011. >

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:37:43AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Matthias Saou > writes: > > Toshio Kuratomi wrote : > >> Regarding the fragility argument in reply to notting's clarification; do > >> note that the fragility there only lasts until that Fedora release

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:56:36PM +0200, Marc Grimme wrote: > - "Bill Nottingham" wrote: > > > Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. > > It's that time again for Fedora 16. > > > > New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have > > failed t

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