Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-05 Thread Thomas Bendler
2010/11/5 Jeff Spaleta > [...] > I'm more than happy to give Shuttleworth the benefit of the doubt > about the sincerity of his interest and I will be watching the Wayland > commit logs closely looking for Canonical sponsored contributions to > _start_ trickling in. > [...] > What does this mean

ixgbe/udev mystery

2011-03-25 Thread Thomas Bendler
Hi @all, I've setup a F14 box (minimal install) on a Supermicro server. So far, so good. After some configuration (mainly automtic stuff done by puppet) and a reboot I noticed that only the 1Gb network cards where configured but not the 10Gb cards. I didn't even see eth2 and eth3 using ifonfig -a.

Re: ixgbe/udev mystery

2011-03-25 Thread Thomas Bendler
2011/3/25 Andy Gospodarek > [...] > Your devices are not showing up because the driver is failing to load. > That is one strange thing, modprobe didn't report any error and you can see the driver in the lsmod list. > Erroe -15 is IXGBE_ERR_RESET_FAILED, so it seems there is either > something

Re: ixgbe/udev mystery

2011-03-25 Thread Thomas Bendler
2011/3/25 Thomas Bendler > [...] > One remark, the error occured with the standard ixgbe module (2.0.62-k2), so > I upgraded the module to the latest version (3.2.10-NAPI) but still have the > same error. > And another remark, the network card work without problems when using

Re: ixgbe/udev mystery

2011-03-26 Thread Thomas Bendler
2011/3/26 Gilboa Davara > [...] > Have you tried using the latest ixgbe drivers from intel.com [1]? > It's far newer (v3.2.10) than the one shipped with the kernel and in the > past, I've had far less issues with it. > [...] > Yep, compiled and installed this one as well but same error. Regards

Re: ixgbe/udev mystery

2011-03-26 Thread Thomas Bendler
2011/3/26 Andy Gospodarek > [...] > I don't have any great suggestions about why this is broken, but I would > suggest you open a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com with the full details of > this failure. If you let me know what the bug # is (email is fine) > after you open it, I'll make sure the right

Re: Usr Move - More, Please

2012-01-30 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/1/30 Mike Pinkerton > [...] If (1) we mount /usr ro over the network, and (2) we want /usr to be > reserved for managed software (for a variety of reasons), then /usr/local > really doesn't fit anymore. > Why doesn't /usr/local fit anymore? It was especailly designed for this kind of setup

Re: dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

2014-06-24 Thread Thomas Bendler
2014-06-23 17:51 GMT+02:00 Gerald B. Cox : > > This has got to be the silliest thing I've ever seen, but whatever. You > enter the command dnf remove dnf, and guess what? It removes dnf. You enter > the command dnf remove kernel, and guess what, it removes the kernel. What a > concept, it d

Re: dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

2014-06-24 Thread Thomas Bendler
2014-06-24 11:36 GMT+02:00 Richard Hughes : > On 24 June 2014 10:31, Thomas Bendler wrote: > > you need to unlock the gun before you can shoot in your foot... > > ...and modern systems ask you up to four, five times > > How many different locks does a gun have? Last time

Re: dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

2014-06-24 Thread Thomas Bendler
2014-06-24 11:40 GMT+02:00 Florian Weimer : > On 06/24/2014 11:31 AM, Thomas Bendler wrote: > >> ​Hopefully you don't write professional software with this kind of >> attitude. > > Please don't try to win arguments by labeling the opposition as > incompeten

Re: packaging puppet modules

2012-07-16 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/6/27 Ken Dreyer > I was looking briefly into packaging some Puppet modules, and I was > curious if anyone else has gone down this road. > [...] > Does anyone have suggestions for package naming conventions? It looks > like the upstream modules include the creators' names as part of the > pac

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-13 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/11/12 Matthew Miller > [...] > Yeah: if we get to the point where every real install has to add the same > subset of packages to core, I don't think we've succeeded in doing anything > except make more work for the whole world. > A cron daemon and (at least basic) MTA fall in the same area,

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-13 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/11/13 Christopher Meng > I don't know Fedora minimal looks like...FOR SERVER USE the Minimal > includes: > > [...] > BUT FOR DESKTOP USE,I think it should also have a desktop based on server > version...That's what is troubling me...If it [...] This is something we shouldn't mix. When we a

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-14 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/11/13 Bill Nottingham > [...] > - Minimal tools for admins > less > man-db > procps-ng > vim-minimal > Is man-db really necessary? In the man pages included in the man-db package are not really helpful for a core system ... from my point of view. > [...] > - Get ma

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-14 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/11/14 Matthew Miller > [...] > I'd like to go back a step here to the question starting the thread. > There's > plenty of time to go over each package, but the basic question is intent. > Clearly man pages aren't necessary for a super-minimal JEOS image, but > that's not *historically* been

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-14 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/11/14 Chris Adams > [...] > Well, as soon as you have cron, you'll have things wanting to send > email, and even sendmail mail to "root" on the local system requires > some type of MTA in most cases. > True, but then you need a mail client as well otherwise you won't see the local mails. So

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-14 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/11/14 Matthew Miller > default install of a small set of packages necessary for a consistent > Fedora experience including minimal admin tools > I was just surprised that there was no discussion about your proposal, instead, there was immediately a discussion about the packages that should

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-14 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/11/14 Chris Adams > [...] > Ehh, for local "root" mails from failing cron jobs, "less > /var/mail/root" works just fine. :) > Sending mails with telnet also works fine but I don't think that this is the question ;). We work on the definition of core and what will be inside. If we say, mail

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Thomas Bendler
2013/7/15 Lennart Poettering > ​[...] > > Well, assuming that bash is entirely in memory. And also, note that > neither cat, nor cp, nor tail are actually bash builtins and will not > work. It's pretty hard (though certainly possible) viewing files with > just bash builtins. > echo $(< /var/log/

Re: [@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

2012-12-19 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/12/18 Adam Williamson > Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state of > minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17. > [...] > Can you also point to a page with the hole list of packages in minimal? Otherwise you need to know what was allready in minimal back in f17. Re

Re: [@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

2012-12-21 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/12/19 Adam Williamson > [...] > Oh dear, sorry, I just rebooted and lost that data (I tend to keep this > kind of file in /tmp). I could re-generate it if you're really > interested. > [...] > I think this would be a nice to have on the wiki page to document the outcome of the discussions.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-29 Thread Thomas Bendler
2013/1/29 Olav Vitters > [...] > I've seen the changes that various GNOME developers as well as Red Hat > employees have made. I've seen GNOME developers trying to understand > issues and make changes. I've even tried to summarize this in various > release notes. > Now I'm not sure who you mean w